Alright, Tbone77494, You Asked For It

After reading the more recent posts....
As the ECCIE turns. What a bunch of infants....
Go fuck some bitches and get over this crap. Really. Your taking this shit too seriously.
It's DRAMA. Every one of you. Just fucking let it go.
Sheesh..... Originally Posted by Damon Bradley

Thanks for reminding me Damon. I think I will go do just that!

Hmmm Lets tally up some facts....

Karlie has 11 Reviews with only this last one as a bad one and all the rest are Yes reviews.

White Knight fact the day of the one bad review Karlie is informed within hours and she starts this thread to tell her side that obviously has insider info in it.

She also had a PM up that was sent to her from the guy that gave her a bad review.

Kboy has relentlessly defended Karlie in this thread and in the review.

One guy from Dallas is going to take the opportunity to get a rebound session from Karlie and WK himself as a savior to the Austin Forum.

I am sure that Karlie is now wishing she had never started this thread.

Tbone is wishing his nightmare from the session would now go away...

What have we learned from this? Do not trust anyone with personal information on a SHMB and High prices do not always equal a high quality service......

Thanks for playing as the stomach churns....

@fredlovessuckingdick, are you calling me a liar or not? Do you have any specifics? I can't tell from your ramblings...



I apologize to the other members here... I am generally polite and civil, but I find it difficult to maintain decorum when it is even implied that I am a lier...oops, I mean liar, considering I lie (down) almost every hobby appointment. Originally Posted by austinkboy

there is no point in you rambling on and on about this. you disagree with me and i disagree with you. i think you're taking this too personally.

people will make their decisions about the incident and with you. don't change the issue to me just to cloud the issue. sounds you are being overly aggressive and want to fight me or something really dumb.

people who have read this thread have made up their minds. i will be the more mature one and not get upset about this...hopefully you will realize that it simply isnt worth getting so mad about you want to get into a fistfight!

Karlie breached security by posting a private pm. How could I EVER trust this woman with private screening information?????????????????

The ONLY way I would ever consider giving this woman private screening information would be to see an apology from her on this board followed with a promise NEVER, NEVER do this again. I'm still waiting.............

Sorry, I was going to let this one drop, but...
Wyldeman, I think you got close, at least closer on this attempt. But you are still getting "facts" mixed up with your "opinions". So just for the record, I beg your indulgence.

Hmmm Lets tally up some facts....

Karlie has 11 Reviews with only this last one as a bad one and all the rest are Yes reviews. agreed

White Knight fact the day of the one bad review Karlie is informed within hours (agreed- I have stated that I informed her of the review, if that is considered WKing) and she starts this thread to tell her side that obviously has insider info in it ("obvious insider info"? Not obvious to me, and apparently not to the mods. So, while you are entitled to your opinion, this is not an established fact. Did you consider that perhaps her source of inside information was herself and Tbone himself, since they are the only two that were there, and apparently by admission by both they had subsequent discussion regarding this. It would make sense that Tbone told Karlie what his beef was, and Karlie would have likely responded with her position, then ultimately Tbone agreed not to post a review, then did anyway. ).

She also had a PM up that was sent to her from the guy that gave her a bad review. Agree that this was ill advised. I believe the mods have taken care of this in short order. But I think Tbone has so much as confirmed the content of the PM himself, and so in fact outed himself.

Kboy has relentlessly defended Karlie in this thread and in the review.
Agree. I did the best I could, but not so much from the standpoint of whether her reaction to this thing was justified or not, but more as a "character witness". I did however, defend my own reputation rigorously when innuendos questioning my truthfulness were expressed by a few. Also, my "rigorous" defense was not at the expense of Tbone or his credibility. I feel very badly that this happened, both to him and Karlie.

One guy from Dallas is going to take the opportunity to get a rebound session from Karlie and WK himself as a savior to the Austin Forum sounds like what he may try to do, but still not a fact until it happens. a conjecture on your part

I am sure that Karlie is now wishing she had never started this thread. probably true, but conjecture on all of our part. she is not real active on this board in any case, and doesn't log in very often... conjecture on my part.

Tbone is wishing his nightmare from the session would now go away...
I suspect that that is true, and to the extent he commented in this thread, I agree, but only Tbone can confirm this as fact.

What have we learned from this? Do not trust anyone with personal information on a SHMB and High prices do not always equal a high quality service...... one of those truism and advice that is hard not to agree with... but not fact.

Thanks for playing as the stomach churns.... ditto, x 2
Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

I was at the samed dinner that Damon speaks of. That was shitty of her to put down other providers. I will say that I remember all the girls there and would have hooked up with them before Karlie. I expected a lot more in the looks department.....

Sixx

..... I had something to say about Karlie from the first time I met her. But i deleted all of this post.

So, I'll change it, and address another subject, about sweet innocent miss Karlie...

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Instead.... I will recount an incident, to which there are witnesses.....


The one where she was at a Whisper's dinner at Palacio, where she talked shit to my face, about my date, and the two other well know, and respected providers I arrived with, upon meeting me (not knowing the lady standing close by was my date, and soon to be GF, you old timers know who that was/is), then after finding out she was my date, tried to back track, and upon meeting her moments later, kissed her and my ass, knowing she had fucked up.

Bammm. Yes I said it. Oh no. I spoke unkind words by telling the truth.

Yep. That's how it happened. I immediately lost all respect for her from hearing how she spoke in a derogatory way about other providers.

Sorry to have to call her out so late in this thread, but it happened, it was childish and rude, and it's time someone else brought up other occurrences that show a lack of mature emotional character.



Karlie, you haven't chimed in once on this long MFer of a thread you started, not for lack of you watching it. C'mon. You know you're reading ALL of this. Thats what really gets to me about you, and the other "young ladies", that you think you have so much life experience and are SOOOO smart in stirring this shit up. When your 45, your going to laugh at yourself, hopefully, realizing how foolish you were, in thinking that men (and many of the more mature ladies) with so much more life experience weren't able to see through your silly youthful games. Most did, and just played along. You will realize this one day.

Is everyone here aware that if you go into your settings, and add someone as your contact, you can see if they are on ECCIE while you are on ECCIE? Almost every time I have logged in since this thread started, Karlie is online. I almost NEVER saw her in my online contacts before this thread was started. Just a little FYI. It's a great feature here.

For Christ sake, speak up!! YOU started this...... Originally Posted by Damon Bradley

It's a damn shame that providers are held to same standards that doctors are. The paper prints a typo, that's a permanent mistake but forgivable. There is a hair in your dinner, the cook makes you another. The movie you rented is scratched, switch it out. I bought a Kenmore washer thinking it would last a lifetime. It lasted two months past the one year warranty. A fluke? Sure, life happens. But do you write a review before talking to the place of business that failed you about their performance? Why can't providers who have proven themselves as quality get the same courtesy? Are y'all afraid that she will bite you if you give her constructive criticism in place of a permanent bad review? If you really feel that this is her best, then by all means, the guys need to know. I need to know! But for ladies who have an off day and/or an emotional outburst in response, lay off dudes. Chill, get a beer and chillllllllllllllllllllllll. Originally Posted by HunterGrace

So are providers like you willing to give another session if a client is not satisfied like the chef who makes you another dinner or the movie rental place that switches out the scratched disk? Papers that make typo or mistakes publish corrections later. I see no apology or correction here.

As for constructive criticism, how does that remedy tbone's situation? Even though he spent a good amount of money and was left unhappy, he's the one that should give her the benefit of doubt and do something that benefits her? As has been mentioned many times in this thread, those ladies that have an off day or aren't perfect can weather a bad review or two without problems. I don't think this "sadistic" display for our entertainment would be happening if she, as the chef, didn't come back to our table and threw the shitty plate in our faces. If she, as the movie rental place, didn't tell us to fuck off because the disk is scratched, then charged us the purchase price of the movie.

Besides, how do you know there was no constructive criticism given? There was obviously some communication back and forth after the session.

We should lay off and chill? Give constructive criticism? At what point is a bad review warranted? Should we, after a bad session, give constructive criticism, then go back? If we don't go back after the first bad session, then we should just give criticism and shut the fuck up? Seems to me that you're advocating that we just give feedback, lay off and chill, and never write a bad review unless we waste more money and time to see a bad provider at least twice. That really should work in your favor, shouldn't it?

I have known of Karlie for as long as I have been hobbying. I've never heard any thing but positive things about her. I can understand that a bad review is simply a message that your game is slipping. How is a girl to know that her game is slipping unless someone says, " you have a new review and it looks like your game is slipping."

That said, let's remember that Karlie isn't as mature [old] as most of you hobbiests and so her one emotional outburst in three years was probably just a sign that she is indeed a hottie in her twenties and not as perfect as the rest of y'all yet. Until this one little bitty outburst that will be forgotten in a week, she was pretty damn close.

I can understand the young having an outburst. Hell I can even understand the old having an outburst. However, there are outbursts, then there are outbursts. LauraLucks telling us she doesn't want to suck our cocks for money anymore was an outburst. The fact that this is titled "You asked for it" tells me that this is a deliberate outburst calculated to do damage to tbone, and she made the decision to post his personal business in public. This is a bit more than just an outburst, but a breach of confidence.

I have had unhappy clients, two that were really unhappy. They could have reviewed and their displeasure would have been an honest recount. I, like Karlie, am flawed. And let this one bad review of Karlie prove that she isn't a one size fits all provider that the displeased client had expected. Certainly he could have talked to her directly so that she could have corrected her game and been given a chance to make right if she choose. Instead, y'all are ready to burn her at the stake! (Sadly, a few ladies will judge her for this one outburst and then have the nerve to get angry when judged themselves on this or that. It could be another "twenties age" thing of not mastering control of oneself yet, a malicious thing, a threAD op, or a genuine attempt to create a sense of accountability to the other providers, no matter the motive, the effect is harsh, intolerant lynching without a second thought to the effects words could have on this sweet young lady.)

I hope you decide to give her some grace rather than keep using her to feed your hungry appetite for entertainment. At the very least, send her a consolation gift so she's not being totally being used for your selfish sadistic amusement.

This is why girls like me have been staying away from the board. And now, I shall depart as fast as I appeared. POOF!

"Girls like you" like to tell us to not write bad reviews because of the effects those words have on "sweet young ladies". That, in essence, is telling us to ignore the purpose of the board - information exchange. If we followed your advice, there would be no bad reviews, no reports of NCNS, wasting our time, or using deceptive pictures. I know you wouldn't ever stoop to such things, but there have been ladies here who have done those things. Some unscrupulous providers have even gone so far as to try to trash other members, black mail others, manipulate men and women, bait & switch, lie about their age and looks, then they disappear and reappear under new name and persona. If you still think retaliating against a bad review by outing personal business should be given the same leeway as Netflix sending a scratched disk, please go back under the rock you crawled out from.

You seem quite disenchanted that a woman would meet your physical desires but fail to conceal the financial aspects of the relationship. Originally Posted by googol^googol

I am not disenchanted at all.

I trust very few women with anything personal. This is not something that would happen to me IMO.

btw, i don't think he sleeps.

3-4 hours every day whether I think I need it or not. And lately alone.

while we don't necessarily agree on the style of hobbying, i consider Whispers a good friend, and hopefully he considers me a friend... Wait...did he publicly say that he considered me a friend earlier in this thread?

Yes i did. ANd Yes I consider you part of a small circle of Hobby Friends that I totally trust and can be open with. How many times have I offered you "My Sexretary" to assist with your dicktation, my GF to help with a lonely spot when you got stood up or one of the many strippers I know to just ease the cash flow situation at times....Your favorite gal up at P10 for example...... We all measure friendships in different manners but only a few guys here have had the opportunity to bang the secretary or GF presented to them.....a token of my gratitude..... I always share them when I am done with them but only occasionally and only with a handful of guys while I am still actively playing with them myself. Your in the company of a few good men. And I feel that way when I am in your company as well.

I can honestly say that he is pretty blunt and honest with me as to what he thinks, and i usually listen to what advice he has.

Friends have no reason to sugar coat things..... I'm pretty blunt with guys all the time anyway.... But off the boards and in a Ladies presence I am a bit softer.

I don't always agree and follow. Also, there was a time when it seemed like he was in fact on the computer 24/7. Lately, though he seems somewhat preoccupied with with his new secretary...

YES! :cheez y:

Originally Posted by austinkboy

Yeah Buddy!..... Next set of wings and beers are on me...... That little piece of chochalate you enjoyed the other night keeps asking about you by the way....

BTW..... Quit all the wussy posturing here over Karlie and let her fight for herself.... She's a professional after all.... It's her business at risk.... You need to go get laid. I'm 2nd at bat for that spinner after you tomorrow so clean her up when you are done!

@kboy You are silly...Don't you know trixs are for chics....

Here's a quick response to Tbone77494's issue:



Requested: Provided:

Lengthy discussion of client's
marital problems, which I
neither expected nor wanted
to provide counseling for.

-Emotional support over a three-hour period during which the client cried, resolved personal issues on the phone at our appointment. From-the-heart advice on what seemed to be a trying personal situation.

XXOO
A nice touch after a flaming.

Karlie Originally Posted by Karlie

I’m not willing to read all these posts since the author herself sees no reason to respond to any aspect of speculation put forth by any member.
So if I reiterate a previous post, please excuse me.
Combined with the original post, Damon, Rand and Whispers posted all the info I need to add my usual brand of bullshit.

My observation is that the provider doesn’t understand her job or that she was reaching for justification to counter-post a bad review. In many cases, the “counseling” received is just as important if not more so than the actual sex. Especially if the hobbyist has problems in their lives. Again excuse me if I am incorrect but I doubt he requested counseling. Somehow I get the feeling he just wanted to have someone listen. You know, like everybody does.

Without responses from the thread author, conjecture is pointless. Personally, none of the post past the counseling issue and the provider’s attitude concerning it means that much to me. It is he said, she said. I’m not guessing at her take on it (counseling). I read it.

Did any providers correct her misconceptions as to her duties? Maybe the lack of author’s responses is due to the fact a provider sent her a behind-the-scenes PM and explained the situation. Conjecture on my part. Please excuse me if such comments were made in the posts I did not read.

That’s all by me. “How it’s Made” is on the Science Channel right now.

What have we learned from this? Do not trust anyone with personal information on a SHMB and High prices do not always equal a high quality service......
Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

karlie I'd like to give you a shot..

Somebody posted info from a PM? Really? What kind of low down untrustworthy snake would do such a thing? Boggles the mind. Guess you can't trust anybody with anything anymore.

HOLY CHIT!

Somebody posted info from a PM? Really? What kind of low down untrustworthy snake would do such a thing? Boggles the mind. Guess you can't trust anybody with anything anymore.

HOLY CHIT! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

YUP... We know that's only allowed in the SpiderHole forum right?

Nope... you haven't been forgotten!