Customer Service 101, "Providing" is a business, many treat it so, but many take hobbiest for fools, WHY???

In ads across this board, backpage, craigslist, etc. etc. you see the ads with pictures many are real, many are fake, many are the actual person, but several years older. You see the services descibed as GFE, PSE, so on and so on. Sites like Eccie are the so called, "Sunday morning ads of the hobbie". You very seldom see providers that advertise on this site, that do not walk the walk, every now and then you will have a new provider, that tries to use this board, and turns out to not be what she advertises. I see the fellow dawgs that TOFTT, with some of these fake picture using, bait and switch providers paying $$$, and then having the law laid down, no touching, no kissing, look only, towel on the bed, so on and so on, and in their reviews you can feel the frustration of being suckered after laying the cash down. I have experienced the same thing myself time to time, and I always ask, why do you advertise GFE, PSE, when you are anything but. There is nothing more unpersonable, then to enter a room and see a beach towel on the bed, or go to give the girl a hug and kiss and be pushed to the side like you have SARS. I have actually seen providers that give BBBJ practically to completion, but would not kiss a guy ???? I can under stand the too personal angle, but I do not think there is any misunderstanding that for some reason this guy is gonna think you are his actual new girl friend, and I would think if you are willing to go GREEK to get a guy to be a repeat customer, a kiss on the mouth should be nothing. I was with two friends once, we paid for 4 girls one time all offering GFE-PSE service. One would not kiss on the mouth or allow DATY, because it was too intimate. Two of the girls were really hard core anything went, one allowed CIM and swallowed no joke. What was amazing is that the girl that would not kiss let CIM/SWALLOW drink from a drink she had on the table, and kissed her right after she took a drink??? WTF !!!

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Well the reason they use false advertising is the same reason sellers of other products and services do, to separate you from your hard earned money. If they listed all the rules in their ads they would have a lot less business. Thats why reviews are so important.

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Ditto, Veronica!!!

I agree with Marco. Thats why we have a review section, to weed out all the B&S.

Hey I'm under Lea again. WHOPPEE

Customer Service 101, "Providing" is a business, many treat it so, but many take hobbiest for fools, WHY???

Because their clients are fools! (including you and me).





If you are gonna explore and shop in he bargain basement, it is definitely going to be hit or miss (ymmv).

The beauty of the review boards is it is the consumer reports of the hobby. I appreciate the explorers and used to do a lot of it myself. There is a certain thrill in the unknown.

Might I suggest you do not take out your frustrations about the "HOOKERS" on CL on the "escorts" that reside here.

We are all hookers regardless of how high the rate. It's not the low rate that always indicates poor service...it's the individual person. I do think it's quite amusing to watch guys complain about accomodations however. I would not think someone charging only $100 an hour is going to pay $300 for a hotel room and have a nice bottle of wine for each appt. She would never make any money.

Slickback, in response to your question "Why do most providers offer cim and don't kiss," because kissing is more intimate. Many providers will offer everything under the sun but not that, because it is "intimate" for them. There are girls in high school nowadays who take it in the back door to save their so called virginity. I kiss but I don't do it with every client, nor will I ever. If someone does not have a clean mouth, jacked up teeth, or I can smell his breath 10 ft. away, I am not going there.

Ditto on the daty if that's the case. I don't want to catch the funk and I am sure many guys would feel the same way if a girl had cheese stuck in her teeth, blisters, or tasted like a condom.

I agree that there is a lot of bs advertising but as you noted, many guys don't care once they get there. They either take what they can and write a bad review after the fact, or walk away. Walking away without paying would be the best advice I can give. The reason bait and switch keeps happening is because these girls know that a high percentage of guys are going to stay anyway.

Reviews are bs too sometimes, so don't think just because a girl has great reviews that she can't have a bad day. You might just be the day she decides to slack off, so anyone saying that just because they have 100 great reviews that every bad one is bs, is delusional. Some women only treat men that write reviews with respect because they have some sort of ego trip regarding reviews. Personally, I find the whole process degrading and don't see men who write them. I don't need business that bad, and I try and treat everyone with the same respect on or off the boards.

If you are paying me, you deserve to get my very best that day, and as long as you show up clean and ready, you will.

Kaylee, you miss my point. There is a difference between "hookers" and "escorts". It is in their service, their business management, how they comport themselves; not their price that makes the difference.

I know hon, but if you are paid for sex you are still a hooker. Service and where one advertises has very little to do with it. If you screw for money you are in fact a hooker.

Who are you kidding? There isn't a difference between hookers and escorts. It's all bull shit semantics. Using PC terms for whoring is funny to me. No matter how you spin it, whether it's for ten dollars or ten thousand dollars, we have sex for money. What's the point of demeaning women in a price range that you consider off limits to yourself?

Who are you kidding? There isn't a difference between hookers and escorts. It's all bull shit semantics. Using PC terms for whoring is funny to me. No matter how you spin it, whether it's for ten dollars or ten thousand dollars, we have sex for money. What's the point of demeaning women in a price range that you consider off limits to yourself? Originally Posted by Jacquie

There are many "tiers" of providers in this business. My feelings have always been:

• That all tiers are needed and serve a particular market
• As long as the lady is "giving it her all" according to the market she serves; she deserves my respect.

That's true. I just don't find all the different words that offensive.
Call it like you see it, I say.

Ah. Let me see if I can mediate this one.

CPI seems to be attempting to offer a level of respect he feels we have earned. I have no problem with that, personally. It's a perfectly nice thing to do.

Although, CPI, in all honesty you're going to have a problem with educated women who hear "hooker" used as a perjorative. We tend to think the derogatory meaning exists only in the mind of sexually repressed men and women. It's only a dirty word to people who want it to be a dirty word and try to load it with dirty meanings. Even then, people react less to the word itself than to the attitude problem behind it. They're trying to be offensive.

I'm happy with merely making reference to quality. That is, in essence, the difference between us and not whether we are called ladies, providers, companions, escorts, call girls, hookers, prostitutes or whores.

Watch, I've probably managed to annoy everyone with this. Ha!

Emily,

Reading your post was like taking a breath of fresh air! I am instantly attracted to your attitude. (Why off the market though? sigh!)

Not that he needs any help but I am on CPI's side on this one. SInce it is hard to convey how we load or not load the word with dirty meanings, it is always safer to use polite and respectful words if one is polite or respectful.

HH

P.S. No matter when it is , I;d like to hear from you if you plan a trip to N.O.

Who are you kidding? There isn't a difference between hookers and escorts. It's all bull shit semantics. Using PC terms for whoring is funny to me. No matter how you spin it, whether it's for ten dollars or ten thousand dollars, we have sex for money. What's the point of demeaning women in a price range that you consider off limits to yourself? Originally Posted by Jacquie

I think people who find it offensive are in denial lol. Sure, we don't exactly put whore or hooker on a website for LE reasons, but at least we can admit we are all getting paid for the same thing. Don't know many girls who get paid just to play board games, unless the guy is just trying it out to make sure she is safe.

Granted different girls perform better/worse than others, but that still does not make one a whore and one an escort. The majority may not consider a SW of the same caliber of a high priced indy, but we are all still offering a product(sex) for money. I am not offended if someone calls me a whore, because for the time being that's exactly what I am. I may charge an arm and a leg for it, but I am no better than anyone else selling the same product for less.