Civilian, Semi-Pro, UTR status?

not interested

Sorry LilMinx, I did not read the entire thread, but from your initial post there was some missing information. Are your friends hot ladies, and do they know how to TCB BCD? If they are hot and can take care of business like a pro, I suggest that they make friends with some of the high end ladies on here and P411. There are plenty of guys who spend 600+ per visit. I for one, would appreciate one of my regulars recommending a UTR lady to me. In fact, most likely, I would make sure to book an extra session with the lady for making the referral.

Just my 2 cents

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. I didn't expect hate mail

<snap> Originally Posted by LilMynx69

Hate mail? Seriously?


That's fuct.


Don't they know that your inbox is set to Fifty?


Clogging that Lil'box with hate mail....pfffft!

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I've never had this much fun with insomnia. Plus I rarely even look in co-ed.

MY 2 cents...
1. I like the idea of UTR providers because if you meet a friend or business associate while the two of you are out you don't have to worry that a suspicious one would take a pic of the girl and then do a search for her and see she is a provider.

2. I am not sure I like the idea of a social event meeting several ladies. I have just a few types and if you don't have a UTR friend that fits in one of my types then I am not interested. Plus as a private person I am not sure I like the idea of meeting up with other guys from the board I don't know.

3. We all have to eat and if that helps the lady feel more normal about it and loosen up then I am all for it. Plus $500 for an extended date is what I typically like for first meetings. Then once we are more comfortable we can make our own arrangements for shorter or longer dates.

4. LM you seem super cool. I am not sure what is in this for you but I don't care. It could be $ or it could be that you are just helping out friends. I applaud you if it is the latter as you will be spending time putting all of these things together that you could be doing things that make you $. I hope your friends appreciate you.

As a side note. I am not bad looking but am overweight. I have been hit on a few hookers at hotel bars but half the time I don't realize it until later. I don't go out eating alone to meet people. In fact when I am alone it is because I am upset and go out to be distracted but alone.

First hooker at bar story... I was 24 and on a bachelor trip in Vegas. At 3am we had been partying since 6pm. My boy wanted to play black jack. I was not interested so I sat down at the bar and played a few slow hands of video poker. A hottie sits down next to me and immediately starts flirting... it is obvious what she wants. I pawn her off on one of the better looking guys in our group that thinks his farts are like roses. It was hilarious when he came back from walking her to her car and said ... "that girl was a hooker!". I had told everyone what was going on and we had a good laugh at his expense. Funny part was "Rico Swavie" later said maybe I should call her... he wanted to do a MMF thing but could never get his GF to go for it.

Please indulge me making it "all about ME for a moment."

With the recent end of my personal situation (being kept), I am now able to openly discuss more about my life with friends. As painful as the loss is, it's quite nice to be able to talk about my life with the benefactor more openly. While he never asked me to not discuss him, my own discretion made me very tight lipped about it and he absolutely gave me express permission to discuss openly now. That said and moving on with life...here goes... Originally Posted by LilMynx69

Thank you for opening up your life as a "kept" woman. Your life story is certainly intriguing. Please kiss and tell!

Now that several of my girlfriends know about my life and how I've been living it the past three years, they are extremely fascinated by the possibility of p4p/mutually beneficial relationships, etc.

They are all asking me for my thoughts and advice. Shockingly, I'm sort of without much advice, so I thought I'd pose their questions here.

Today I had lunch with 4 other ladies.

- One is a working girl/stripper who doesn't advertise here

- One is a bartender who is an amateur but occasionally is p4p

- One is a recently divorced hot 35 yo whose alimony is about to run out and concerned about her expenses that include a luxury car lease and high inside the loop rent

- One is a former model who was a mistress to a wealthy oil guy until recently and is now completely unemployed (read...getting desperate)

- And then there was me, full time employed and looking for love in all the wrong places

Many general questions came up, but for sake of discussion, I'll boil it down to one for now.
Originally Posted by LilMynx69

By reading the profiles of your friends below, all of them have displayed the behavior associated with p4p and are certainly "in the know". (Perhaps they are even more involved with the thought of p4p after you had told them about your situation). But then again, one does not necessarily have to be a bonafide hooker to know about p4p. In all relationships, marriages, and business transactions - there IS a give and take, and nothing in this world is free of these three things; time, money, and emotions. (Take your pick!)

If one of these ladies wanted to make a small chunk of change in a relatively short time, let's say $2000 in 2 weeks, what would be her options? Originally Posted by LilMynx69

All of the ladies above are accustomed to making easy money with little or no hard work at all - call it the convenience of being a woman! But in reality, this short-term convenience could possibly hinder them from considering other venues for financial income (per say a "vanilla" job). There are women out there who can easily clear $2,000 without turning to the sex industry - or - the opposite sex.

Even if they were to turn to the sex industry, they would most likely even run into a dilemma. Being a provider is not an industry that requires zero effort - It actually includes many characteristics of a regular job. Providing is more than merely opening your legs because some random guy wanted to pay to get in between them. After-all, providers are bit more lively than blow-up dolls!

For your friends, I would suggest that they find a decent regular job or start learning how to implement and market their fellatio skills.

I told the stripper to get her ass to work and hustle, but I was unsure of what to tell the other girls. Originally Posted by LilMynx69

I can see the stripper easily clearing over 2K in two weeks!

I've seen threads about guys looking for willing civie or semi pros, but where should these ladies look? If they think a guy is willing, how do they make it clear there is a p4p without being really obvious, or must they BE really obvious? Originally Posted by LilMynx69

I would think that most of the guys look for women off of CL or other dating sites such as eHarmony or match.com. The game is everywhere. Perhaps guys are looking for Civie's or Semi-pros because they are less standardized by the sex industry and more lenient on various things compared with seasoned/experienced providers aka "Professionals". They may offer cheaper rates and a more "genuine" experience than most. Also, some guys like to experience things "closer to the real" without the blatant knowledge that they are indeed paying for the p*ssy. After-all, nothing is like the real thing baby! The real bonafide girlfriend experience is priceless.

To let you know, I basically suggested getting on here, which didn't go over great (lol) or hitting some hotel bars during the week. But besides that, I was a bit lost.

What is a UTR girl to do? Originally Posted by LilMynx69

With the police sometimes taking seats in the hotel bars, you have more than just the chairs of hotel bars to partake in. In Fact, you have the whole world to use as playground for love, money, and relationships - you should make the most out of it. Actually, you should make the most out of ECCIE - There are a LOT of UTR providers here!

On a funny side note...my BGF (best guy friend) suggested I start an agency... Originally Posted by LilMynx69

Are the ladies going to be "kept"?

Pray for an overnight Ivy League education.

Pray for an overnight Ivy League education. Originally Posted by Prime Time

^^^ I know this one is cracking a few of you up. Thanks. PrimeTime! Everyone could always use some extra prayer!

BSB-

Thanks a zillion for your great info! You are spot on and I'm going to read it a couple more times and let it sink in.

xoxo
LMx

Bunch of unverified ladies in a very public venue, what could go wrong? And as for the Globespotter seal of approval, not sure I'd trust that. Remember one Christmas on ASPD when everyone was supposedly screened?

Hope I'm wrong. Stay safe & don't drink and drive.



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....as for the Globespotter seal of approval, not sure I'd trust that. Originally Posted by Lexieinhouston

Noted.

So, anyone gone in yet? I'm down for whoever is the skinniest next week. By then the kinks should be worked out.

Waiting on my invite, but nothing Yet!!

Waiting on my invite, but nothing Yet!! Originally Posted by fishingtwo

Great teaser Look At Me ThreAD! HaHaHaHa!

I'm an attention WHORE!

This must be one of the longest threads in ECCIE's history. I wish all the ladies and gents well. The idea of P4P with a non or semi-pro UTR is great. It could be very GRE.

Staying almost under the radar myself, if I had more availability in the evenings I would definitely be interested. If the gents don't get the number of one of your friends, they might meet someone else. Sonya looks to be well worth the effort.

I will definitely be waiting for "the rest of the story."