Drama, Highly Vocal posters, Disrespect, Trash Talk?... Why do YOU perceive ECCIE to not be a "friendly" place?

My bad TM is no where near this level of well you know....

Of course you can. I was speaking generally.

But, if you think that what I said has no merit whatsoever, then you are either incredibly naive, or you are guilty of being a White Knight for the boys. Originally Posted by Ivory

I can assure I am neither...I was just stating my personal experience

I think Ivory is just a older washed up version of Taylor Maiden....LMAO.. Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

There is no call for dragging Taylor into this...... She's been doing her thing without raising any issues as well as set aside differences to help me with a worthy cause......

Being derogatory towards her here is not different then the original post calling me out....

You don't want to slip into the very behavior I'm raising a stink about now do ya?

It's almost Christmas... If Ivory needs to drum up some business for $5 table dances over at the landing strip then let her have her moment....

Every morning we seem to hear that advertisement on the radio and the gal with me always shakes her head and laughs because she finds it outrageous that women get naked and fondled for a whopping $5... Hell.. HEr Starbucks cost more!

I can assure I am neither...I was just stating my personal experience Originally Posted by VictoriaLyn

Ivory has no real experience with any of us or really with any of the subjects she trys to immerse herself in....

She's hear simply for the exposure..... Take a look at her posting history... She simply wants to mix it up with me or one f the others so she gets noticed..... someone will find their way to her site... look at some out of date pictures..... and pend a few bucks on her.....

She quit being fun when Thor started taking her apart and she never managed to put together responses remotely on topic or in line with what he had to say.....

It;s really quite sad..... let the ole gal hang out a while....

I said my bad already..... I agree TM is no where near this looney....She has taken the high road for a while now....

Ivory has no real experience with any of us or really with any of the subjects she trys to immerse herself in.... Originally Posted by Whispers

I don't have any experience dancing for you or your cohorts because I don't dance for rude and disrespectful men, I prefer to dance for gentleman. Gentleman who think your consistent comments to me and others are way out of line.

But...I do have real experience with you all here on the forums, and that is actually what this thread is all about. It isn't about the few strippers or providers who will come to your rescue. It isn't about the few people who actually tolerate you all. It's about how you and others make this place not very hospitable for all the posters here as a whole. Sure, you boys give to the board, but you also take away much more...but you boys obviously don't give a shit, as long as you all get what you want...ironic, isn't it?

I certainly have experience as a dancer and experience with men of all types, and I can tell you this, if it isn't already painfully apparent, I obviously choose not to dance for a certain subset of "men", and I can actually afford to get away with it…and it's because I am good at what I do…and it's probably what bothers you the most.

She's hear simply for the exposure..... Originally Posted by Whispers

Show me ONE women who posts on this board who isn't here for the exposure?

Take a look at her posting history... She simply wants to mix it up with me or one f the others so she gets noticed Originally Posted by Whispers

Yeah take a look at it...and what people will actually see is that you and the "boys" like to mix it up with me, and quite a bit, and you all are not very nice about it at all. All it takes is for me to post my opinion on ANYTHING, and the insults start being hurled in my direction from a select few, and then when I defend myself or my position or as I have in the past, insulted you in return...then all we hear from the select few is how crazy and looney I must be...it's a consistent pattern from you all.

She quit being fun when Thor started taking her apart and she never managed to put together responses remotely on topic or in line with what he had to say..... Originally Posted by Whispers

You really believe this? LOL…that's funny…all Thor does is trot in for the late shift to help you out like a good little boy and he takes the thread apart and plays his little logical game which really isn't logical at all...and it rarely makes much sense because he fails to take the post out of the vacuum he is reading it in…it's a gimmick that doesn't work any more…that's what took the fun out of it.

It;s really quite sad..... let the ole gal hang out a while.... Originally Posted by Whispers

Yes it is sad…sad that you have been here defending your position that you make this board a friendly place, all the while hurling insults yet again.

I merely agreed with posters who are talking about this subject without my prodding, and without me starting the thread. I stated my opinion as you stated yours…the only difference? I didn't insult you. You and the boys just keep the insults coming while trying to convince everyone you are making this a very friendly place…it's comical at best.

The Girl Friend has been catching up on Dexter the last couple f weeks after never seeing one of them... She was wondering what the big roll of plastic wrap was for...... She thought it a bit much for keeping any left overs fresh.....

Kboy, ztonk and space were all liquored up and were not going to intervene this time...... Originally Posted by Whispers

great show and you know what they say...

Silence is golden, Duct tape is silver

Dear Ms Ivory:
I think it was last year your old pics were posted. ( the ones where you were HOT).
I was very impressed with your former HOTNESS.
Could you repost those old pics now so we can see once more how Hot you were?

thanks
Hark

One one hand, I would think you can't read very well, because if you could, you would have noticed that the majority of my posts are merely replies to mean spirited insults in the first place. The rest are when I state an opinion or perhaps a plug for the club I am dancing at, and then have to defend not my opinion, but myself against personal attacks, and misguided accusations such as yours...but on the other hand, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your exceptional reading ability, and just assume that you are one of those guys who gets miffed and can't get a hard on when a woman stands up for herself...hence your comment to me. Originally Posted by Ivory

Wow... You make your case that you're only involved in drama because you are responding to others throwing insults at you. Then, in the same post, you respond to homer's post making an observation by questioning his reading comprehension and ability to get a hard-on. You just know how to make your points, don't you?

The thing is, what you (Whispers and the others) fail to comprehend, is...you boys are good for business. Whether you like it or not, there is a very LARGE percentage of men who do NOT like Whispers and his supporters and how they treat women who are not on their "list" of premiere ladies. For every guy like you who dislikes me because of the things I say on this forum, there are 20 lining up behind each of you to show me here how a true gentleman treats a woman...that's what keeps me coming back.

Whispers and his supporters reap what they sow...we all do.

If we help you, that is fine. You can chalk that up as one more charity we gave to this holiday season. The list grows, we've helped kids, young mothers, and now the elderly. For a cause like that, I'm happy to hear that we've got guys lining up behind you to show you how a "true gentleman" tucks a $5 bill into your overflowing thong.

Don't play dumb. It only makes one look dumber than they really are. Originally Posted by Ivory

Since you seem to need more help than homer, I'll explain it to you. Slowly.

Saying "I'm being nice this holiday season" doesn't mean I'm being nice because I'm as asshole rest of the time. It could mean I'm not particularly nice or an ass rest of the time, or it could mean I'm nice, just not this nice. See how there are more than one option?

Hey, if you are going to be backing up Whispers and those who support him and the disrespectful things they say and do, then you are going to be guilty by association…it's just the way things work, dude.

I not only "back them up", I say some things that you seem to think are "disrespectful" as well. Remember, I saw you at Stripper Idol and have said that I thought someone's grandmother lost a bet and had to compete. I also said that you had a gut rivaling mine. Disrespectful or fair reporting and information sharing? Since you made the choice to use this forum as an advertising medium, I think it's only fair that we exchange information on what you seem to be advertising.

Back to backing up and guilt by association. I not only back them up, I do my own share of saying "disrespectful" things. If you think sharing honest information about you is disrespectful and insulting, get over it or get in shape.

Quite the contrary. I would be insulting them even more if I didn't say that. Despite what you or Whispers thinks, these girls aren't your "family" like Whispers has an affinity for saying these days.

What does "family" have to do with girls having their own opinion or the fact that if anyone disagrees with you, they are only doing it because they want to be invited to a gathering? You are way off the deep end here.

Don't be silly, no one was ever talking about violence here. I am talking about the fear of speaking up. I am talking about those who won't register and just lurk.

Read again... how in the world did you even bring up violence from "Retribution? Oh, you mean words typed on a forum. That truly is something to be feared."? and you accuse homer of lack of reading comprehension? Try, try, and try harder not to reinforce stereotypes of strippers, please.

It's also strange that you always are in those same drama threads doing exactly what you are doing…or perhaps, it's not so strange?

It's not strange. I don't make claims of being nice, or avoiding drama. I freely admit to being an ass when I want to be, making comments that others may deem as disrespectful, and not shying away from "drama". Difference is, you came into this thread claiming innocence and playing the victim.

"""Saying "I'm being nice this holiday season" doesn't mean I'm being nice because I'm as asshole rest of the time. It could mean I'm not particularly nice or an ass rest of the time, or it could mean I'm nice, just not this nice. See how there are more than one option?"""


More than one option yes, but in reality? really?

Whispers isn't always mean but he is almost always on a soapbox where his opinion is king, we're just not smart enough to understand.

Sixx has toned down quite a bit but loves to call women old, over the hill, ugly ... well until he wants his dick sucked.

Wylde... well he's a shortbus missing a passenger

Rand ... likes to pick apart posters in teensy tiny papercuts until they call apart like that poor dude in Resident evil.

Budman33, buddyman or whatever you wanna call him ... the worst of the lot because he likes to use his pointy stick to poke the animals in the zoo for fun

Coed is what it is, and this thread is evidence that it aint gonna change much.

One one hand, I would think you can't read very well, because if you could, you would have noticed that the majority of my posts are merely replies to mean spirited insults in the first place. The rest are when I state an opinion or perhaps a plug for the club I am dancing at, and then have to defend not my opinion, but myself against personal attacks, and misguided accusations such as yours...but on the other hand, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your exceptional reading ability, and just assume that you are one of those guys who gets miffed and can't get a hard on when a woman stands up for herself...hence your comment to me.

The thing is, what you (Whispers and the others) fail to comprehend, is...you boys are good for business. Whether you like it or not, there is a very LARGE percentage of men who do NOT like Whispers and his supporters and how they treat women who are not on their "list" of premiere ladies. For every guy like you who dislikes me because of the things I say on this forum, there are 20 lining up behind each of you to show me here how a true gentleman treats a woman...that's what keeps me coming back.

Whispers and his supporters reap what they sow...we all do. Originally Posted by Ivory

Actually the only time I would search out a post of yours is when I'm having trouble sleeping or when I need a good laugh. Other then that I just come across your post when you are insulting or attacking one of us in a thread. I agree with what Whispers said that you need us to keep you relevant and remind some guys that you are still around so they can throw some pitty cash your way. The only thing that keeps me from getting hard are 50 year old chicks in the club or in my bed room. Other then that the 20+ year old ladies I see have no complaints and neither do I. I see your slinging your goods at the landing strip now. You two go perfect together because you both lost your appeal years ago.

p.s. It's my researching ability I believe you meant to attack not my reading ability, but I know its got to all be very confusing to you at this point and all you did was prove my point about your lack of tack and reasoning. I read a nice ad, I mean review, no I guess I did mean ad of yours in the strip club section the other day. It was pretty obvious and very sad and desperate but we all understand why you have to do it and why you have to get involved in threads like this. You gotta do what you gotta do when your trying to get your $5 dances.

Actually the only time I would search out a post of yours is when I'm having trouble sleeping or when I need a good laugh. Other then that I just come across your post when you are insulting or attacking one of us in a thread. I agree with what Whispers said that you need us to keep you relevant and remind some guys that you are still around so they can throw some pitty cash your way. The only thing that keeps me from getting hard are 50 year old chicks in the club or in my bed room. Other then that the 20+ year old ladies I see have no complaints and neither do I. I see your slinging your goods at the landing strip now. You two go perfect together because you both lost your appeal years ago. Originally Posted by homer13

Thank you for proving my point Homer. I have nothing more to say to you...but if I reply to your insults, does that mean I am wrong for doing so?

p.s. It's my researching ability I believe you meant to attack not my reading ability, but I know its got to all be very confusing to you at this point and all you did was prove my point about your lack of tack and reasoning. Originally Posted by homer13

I didn't attack your reading ability...although I mentioned my inability (or women like me) to give you a hard on...and of course I said you get miffed (very true and obvious) and you call that an insult?

Wow... You make your case that you're only involved in drama because you are responding to others throwing insults at you. Then, in the same post, you respond to homer's post making an observation by questioning his reading comprehension and ability to get a hard-on. You just know how to make your points, don't you? Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor

Hey…it's not any secret that I am a hard on killer for some of you guys, is it? Or do I actually give you a big old boner? You can tell us…don't be embarrassed…tell us…do I make your cock hard Rand Al'Thor?

And just for clarification, I did NOT question Homer's reading comprehension…because it was obvious he just wanted to say something that is not entirely true…just as you do. Besides, you're the one who just LOVES to play the reading comprehension game as is evident by your posts to me and others.

You both and others seem to really have a problem with women who don't bow down to your "being an asshole and disrespectful" ways, and those are your words and not mine, and those words prove the point that others who do not agree with you are trying to make here in this thread, including me. No matter what I say or how I say it, you will always be here to insult me and in your own words, "be an asshole and disrespectful".

I'm going to take the risk of engaging in this thread not as a moderator (as a moderator I wish everyone involved including myself would take ten steps back and go get laid) but as, ironically enough, Ivory's ideal customer.

I think I can say this fairly conclusively, as anyone who has gone to clubs with me (including Whispers and including some of the women who post here) would attest:

- I'm extremely generous (entertainment budget for the evening is always in the excess of $$, sometimes $$$$-$$$$$$)
- I'm low-pressure and respectful - not trying to get 'action' in the club (if I want action, I have a contact list of providers who will provide exactly that), just there to be spoiled and enjoy pleasant company, and I understand fully that if the woman is comfortable I will be as well
- I enjoy the company of mature women, especially ones with strong opinions (one night in YR was spent arguing vehemently the benefits of single-payer medical insurance with a Ukrainian immigrant dancer)

So, you'd think I would be one of the people beating down a path to her door after her (wo)manfully standing up to the evil Whispypoo and the Wolfpack, right?

Well, not really. One of the things I look for in clubs is artifice. I don't want to be reminded that I'm a middle-aged overweight schlub who needs to buy working girls drinks to be paid attention to. And from every post Ivory makes, I get the very strong impression that to establish that level of artifice, it would take a level of acting ability that would make Meryl Streep take two steps back and exclaim "You GO, girlfriend." I'm sure she is an excellent and experienced dancer who knows exactly how to distract men. I just don't think, given the level of venom consistently on display, that I would ever be able to be distracted any more.

Which is pretty sad, really. I guess I'll drown my sorrows in the company of friendly women who don't remind me that they despise every part of me not attached to a wallet.

Hey…it's not any secret that I am a hard on killer for some of you guys, is it? Or do I actually give you a big old boner? You can tell us…don't be embarrassed…tell us…do I make your cock hard Rand Al'Thor?

And just for clarification, I did NOT question Homer's reading comprehension…because it was obvious he just wanted to say something that is not entirely true…just as you do. Besides, you're the one who just LOVES to play the reading comprehension game as is evident by your posts to me and others.

You both and others seem to really have a problem with women who don't bow down to your "being an asshole and disrespectful" ways, and those are your words and not mine, and those words prove the point that others who do not agree with you are trying to make here in this thread, including me. No matter what I say or how I say it, you will always be here to insult me and in your own words, "be an asshole and disrespectful". Originally Posted by Ivory

All you do is insult, and then try to say your not. You insult the hobbyist, you insult any provider or female who chimes in. I'm done here though because like most men under 60 I've lost interest in you. I notice you keep changing clubs so tell me where can I expect to see you next, the VFW, I hear they tip well.

there, all this back and forth should get some pussy whipped WK who remembers the good old days when you were hot and they could get a boner to come drop some fives on you down at the old landing strip.