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And another thing that is awesome about the facebook chicks.. They are eager to establish business and you do not have all this no answering emails, PM's, long waits for them to slip you into their schedule, and finally none of this no call no show bullshit.

Seems that way. But in my opinion, there are some seriously hot older providers out there that know tricks I've never even heard of. Bet they wouldn't teach us "young" girls all that. Lol!
SMH... Originally Posted by sxy_natalia

Okay... this is a shameless and self serving bump! LOL

Natalia... if we can ever do a double I will be glad to teach you some of the tricks I know!!

Yum!!

Smooch!

Lea

I'm surprised this thread is still thriving and very much alive! I thought it would have been shot in the head and left for dead by now. LOL!

I'm surprised this thread is still thriving and very much alive! I thought it would have been shot in the head and left for dead by now. LOL! Originally Posted by only1sweetmaddy

Nope..

It seems everyone gets into a big tizzy when a new piece of meat comes into view.. Calm down fellas. If the question isn't about price, then why bitch about $$$ at all? Money makes the rules, so if you're tossing the big bucks, go with who the hell ever you choose. If you're on a budget like most of us, go for the less expensive providers. It doesn't seem that hard.

I use facebook as a means of verifying someones identity if other methods aren't available, or simply because getting a peek at someones wall is usually pretty telling into who they are. I started a facebook page for my escort persona, but quickly let it go once I realized it was more trouble that it was worth, and most guys just wanted a quick jack off session on there anyways. Joining a facebook group for business doesn't seem like a good idea to me, because a big name like FB has something to prove about keeping it's network clean of filth like us.. And just might gain the kind of attention from law that places like Backpage, Eccie, P411, Datecheck, and the like don't attract. If the users complain enough, facebook will comply with efforts to thwart prostitution. The question is, are you wiling to risk it. Escort sites are made for escorts, Facebook is made for families and kids to interact, see the danger yet?

On rates: I'm really getting the feeling some of you guys just like it when girls stay cheap, period. Most guys talk and talk about reviews, how important they are, how they won't see girls without them.. Yet, expect them to keep the same rates once they've acquired them? It just doesn't make sense. When I first came onto the scene, I charge $150/h to get reviews. I posted it as a review special, and once my name was known, I raised my rates to the average in my area. How that seems like anything other than normal business tactics to anyone is beyond me. I've spoken to a few girls about the business after getting an email or call asking for help. I tell them the exact things I know as fact, which are reviews are king around here, and once the guys on Eccie know you're safe and legit, they'll start seeing you. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look around on these boards and come to the exceedingly easy conclusion that more money can be made by getting good reviews.

If you don't like the 50+ $300/h chicks, don't call them. If you favor barely legal, no name fresh meat, mingle on FB and try to snag a little hottie, want something you can bank on, call someone with reviews.. What the hell is all the fuss about? Honestly, this entire thread, and a lot of it's content just sounds like boys talking shit on the school yard about who Suzie Lou blew last week. Each of you declaring what *you* are willing and not willing to do, pay, or what not.. Who gives a shit? Call a hooker, get your cock sucked. End of story. Few are victims, no matter the venue, I've been around for years and have NEVER heard of, seen, nor read about a man being FORCED to pay an amount he wasn't comfortable with for a call girl. Don't like the price, move along, it's not like there is a short supply of sexy women wanting to make a little cash guys..

Price gouging? Really? I think highly of myself, but my pussy isn't groceries, gas, or life saving medicine. This is a luxury, not a necessity. Quit complaining about how much it costs, and buy what you can afford.

Otherwise you just sound like a gaggle of grumpy old men, talking shit about who's tits are sagging, and why she's still charging to touch them.

It seems everyone gets into a big tizzy when a new piece of meat comes into view.. Calm down fellas. If the question isn't about price, then why bitch about $$$ at all? Money makes the rules, so if you're tossing the big bucks, go with who the hell ever you choose. If you're on a budget like most of us, go for the less expensive providers. It doesn't seem that hard.

I use facebook as a means of verifying someones identity if other methods aren't available, or simply because getting a peek at someones wall is usually pretty telling into who they are. I started a facebook page for my escort persona, but quickly let it go once I realized it was more trouble that it was worth, and most guys just wanted a quick jack off session on there anyways. Joining a facebook group for business doesn't seem like a good idea to me, because a big name like FB has something to prove about keeping it's network clean of filth like us.. And just might gain the kind of attention from law that places like Backpage, Eccie, P411, Datecheck, and the like don't attract. If the users complain enough, facebook will comply with efforts to thwart prostitution. The question is, are you wiling to risk it. Escort sites are made for escorts, Facebook is made for families and kids to interact, see the danger yet?

On rates: I'm really getting the feeling some of you guys just like it when girls stay cheap, period. Most guys talk and talk about reviews, how important they are, how they won't see girls without them.. Yet, expect them to keep the same rates once they've acquired them? It just doesn't make sense. When I first came onto the scene, I charge $150/h to get reviews. I posted it as a review special, and once my name was known, I raised my rates to the average in my area. How that seems like anything other than normal business tactics to anyone is beyond me. I've spoken to a few girls about the business after getting an email or call asking for help. I tell them the exact things I know as fact, which are reviews are king around here, and once the guys on Eccie know you're safe and legit, they'll start seeing you. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look around on these boards and come to the exceedingly easy conclusion that more money can be made by getting good reviews.

If you don't like the 50+ $300/h chicks, don't call them. If you favor barely legal, no name fresh meat, mingle on FB and try to snag a little hottie, want something you can bank on, call someone with reviews.. What the hell is all the fuss about? Honestly, this entire thread, and a lot of it's content just sounds like boys talking shit on the school yard about who Suzie Lou blew last week. Each of you declaring what *you* are willing and not willing to do, pay, or what not.. Who gives a shit? Call a hooker, get your cock sucked. End of story. Few are victims, no matter the venue, I've been around for years and have NEVER heard of, seen, nor read about a man being FORCED to pay an amount he wasn't comfortable with for a call girl. Don't like the price, move along, it's not like there is a short supply of sexy women wanting to make a little cash guys..

Price gouging? Really? I think highly of myself, but my pussy isn't groceries, gas, or life saving medicine. This is a luxury, not a necessity. Quit complaining about how much it costs, and buy what you can afford.

Otherwise you just sound like a gaggle of grumpy old men, talking shit about who's tits are sagging, and why she's still charging to touch them. Originally Posted by Calista_Syn

It seems to be a never ending debate for sure! I myself have expressed the same feelings about the subject as you have, right along the same lines. I have seen some put it as, "it's not that they can't afford it, they just don't think it's worth it", well, that maybe their humble opinion; however, how does these chicks that charge 700/hour with a 2 hour minimum keep on receiving reviews? Because there are men out there that think it's worth it! They figure if they have the money, why not indulge? It's not like they going be taking their wallets to hell with them or anything. They're just to many aspects and notions to this particular subject. When you think you have her nailed down, then it skews off in totally different direction. Some do have to seek "budget pussy" because of their circumstances with income, whether it boils down to their yearly salary or trying not to set any alarm bells off for the wife to discover where all the extra money is going; or whether they think that pussy just isn't worth it (Period). Opinions will always vary when it comes to the price of "the donation", forever and ever.

For me it is just another addition of some new if you catch my drift. SB's bore me after a few months, established providers are fun for a ride once in a blue moon also. But new to the biz fresh, low mileage, younger, with zero kids or no mommy gut is a nice change from the norm.

Price I could give a less about. At one time I thought Birmingham was over priced seeing Huntsville was such a bargain.. Then I started spending a lot of time in California.. That 300 an hour in Birmingham is a steal when the ones I see in Cali are 700 more an hour.. But goddamn!!!!!! Worth every stinking bill..

I figured thats what all you guys did anyways blad. I mean, isn't variety the whole point of being here to begin with? I get that entirely, and wouldn't expect any guy to ONLY see me, thats silly. Believe me when I tell you that a tight 19-20 year old would make me drop the "normal" reviewed provider when she came around too.. It's the same reason most girls cringe when they see some young hottie traveling through, I damn well know that most of my regulars are going to jump on that, so I plan accordingly. To say that we ALL hate the younger crowd isn't fair though, I personally feel we all fill a different little niche. Most of the guys on the coast, although I'm sure enjoy having a little hottie once in a while, like the stability of knowing a session is about to deliver exactly what they want, and thats when I step in. There is enough cock to go around, I just have to keep up with the times. It's not hard to come up with creative ways to be a slut though, so I'm not very threatened. I've noticed a drop in activity actually, and launched PSE and lower rates... I'll continue to tweek everything accordingly to the weather in the scene.
I think the average on the Coast has rested right at 250/h for legit established girls for a while, and I don't see that being outrageous at all.
I get the same "WTF?" feelings when I browse showcases and see these tight hot bodied 20 somethings charging 150/h in Texas.. First thing that goes through my head is "Damn girl, you could make SO much more in a place like this.." Or, "Damn I'm glad I don't live in Texas!" It's simple supply and demand. If there are 50 verified well reviewed girls within a 50 mile radius, of course rates are going to be driven down. On the coast however, there are very few that are, (And a TON of agency fakes) so the ones here who can prove they're real hover at or around the same range. I'm not affraid of change, competition, or anything else, but it would just be dumb not to charge close to the most I know I can comfortably get in my area.

Men also have to factor in the quality of the services that some of these girls are rendering. You can excellent dinner feasts with any provider or non-pro, that's if they are willing to make you happy and to make sure you are satisfied with a smile upon your face as you are leaving out the door. Some of these women/girls are just in it for the money and the money only, they don't care about you or if you are satisfied. They're waiting on you to break out the bills then get the fuck outta of there so they can see the next Mr. Tom, Dick or Harry, so they can do it all over again.

The point I'm making is- You will have bad apples no matter where you go or who you choose, you just got to make sure you do your research before you jump into the sack.. And if they are a non-pro, chances are there isn't many resources you can go by since they are not established or don't have any reviews.

They're waiting on you to break out the bills then get the fuck outta of there so they can see the next Mr. Tom, Dick or Harry, so they can do it all over again. Originally Posted by only1sweetmaddy

And "established" providers are not the same way? I can name quite a few who are.

The point I'm making is- You will have bad apples no matter where you go or who you choose, you just got to make sure you do your research before you jump into the sack.. And if they are a non-pro, chances are there isn't many resources you can go by since they are not established or don't have any reviews. Originally Posted by only1sweetmaddy

But then you have to factor in the guys who will NEVER write a bad review or make a bad one sound good. This is due to their fear of retribution from the provider either not seeing them again, or giving bad verification to other providers.. Or even the random call/text from them bitching about the review.. If it is bad review it as bad. Do not sugar coat it. If it hurts their business oh well... They should change business practices and things will pick back up. Don't change.. Oh well tough shit.

And "established" providers are not the same way? I can name quite a few who are. Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Not me!!! In the words of Lili von Shtupp: "I'm not a wabbit... I need some weeeeeeeeee (breath) eeeeest!"



Smooch!

Lea

And "established" providers are not the same way? I can name quite a few who are. [IMG]file:///C:\DOCUME~1\MATYJA~1\LOCALS~1\ Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_image001 .gif[/IMG] Originally Posted by bladtinzu

I wasn’t directly pointing a finger at either one, they exists on both sides, it’s sad that some will operate with such shady tactics, it’s like a stone being thrown, it does and will ripple out and effect many. Most of these gals that use such practices are not thinking about the consequences nor the repercussions of their actions, they are living in moment; eventually they usually succumb to their own demise.

But then you have to factor in the guys who will NEVER write a bad review or make a bad one sound good. This is due to their fear of retribution from the provider either not seeing them again, or giving bad verification to other providers.. Or even the random call/text from them bitching about the review.. [IMG]file:///C:\DOCUME~1\MATYJA~1\LOCALS~1\ Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_image002 .gif[/IMG]If it is bad review it as bad. Do not sugar coat it. If it hurts their business oh well... They should change business practices and things will pick back up. Don't change.. Oh well tough shit. Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Yes, sometimes reviews can be deceitful. That’s why it’s best that a provider have many of them and not only on one site. In one basket you got the good guys giving their whole hearted opinion, while in another you got one that is not being totally honest. For a different category you got ones leaving bad reviews because either the provider pissed him off or refused to see him for some reason or another.

This subject goes hand and hand with the “bad apples” subject I have already spoken about. It would be a peachy world if people meant what they said, that goes for both the women/men in the hobby; unfortunately, there are bitches and assholes everywhere! Some lessons are hard ones to learn for sure! The best thing anybody can do is not make the same mistakes and file that lesson away for future inquires.

The hobby can be a very tight nit community, especially for the “old timers” that have been in this game longer than I have been alive. I’m sure there is some emailing going on between hobbyist as well as phone calls! Word does spread quicker than a forest fire!

The thing is the older providers as was seen early on in this thread being cunty bitches because they have their business hurt by this... So they make up outrageous stories ect and show their true colors..

I never worry about other ladies prices, services, etc... Just as the ladies offer different services and different rates, the guys are just as different... with different tastes, desires and budgets. I don't think it is an older vs. younger thing except for a few out there.

In a doubles situation, I enjoy the other girl being younger than me... gives the guy the best of both worlds (and me too!!). Of course, being younger than me is not that hard!! LOL

In my case, what you see is what you get! I work hard to keep up my reputation of being an experience dynamo in bed! I market myself for those who want an older lady who can still blow them away!

I don't want to compliment you in public Blad, for fear it may ruin your "asshole" reputation... but you make a very good point in sharing your own experience... you will pay what you want to pay for the experience you desire... smaller fees in a market where it is offered (younger newer girls in AL) and larger fees in a market where it is more prevalent (higher rates in CA where the girls are worth every penny)

supply and demand, what the market will bear, etc...

Smooch!

Lea

I never worry about other ladies prices, services, etc... Just as the ladies offer different services and different rates, the guys are just as different... with different tastes, desires and budgets. I don't think it is an older vs. younger thing except for a few out there.

In a doubles situation, I enjoy the other girl being younger than me... gives the guy the best of both worlds (and me too!!). Of course, being younger than me is not that hard!! LOL

In my case, what you see is what you get! I work hard to keep up my reputation of being an experience dynamo in bed! I market myself for those who want an older lady who can still blow them away!

I don't want to compliment you in public Blad, for fear it may ruin your "asshole" reputation... but you make a very good point in sharing your own experience... you will pay what you want to pay for the experience you desire... smaller fees in a market where it is offered (younger newer girls in AL) and larger fees in a market where it is more prevalent (higher rates in CA where the girls are worth every penny)

supply and demand, what the market will bear, etc...

Smooch!

Lea Originally Posted by Lea Madisson

Then why do some get these crazy ideas into their heads like they did early on in this thread and make total fools of themselves??