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Hypocrisy is when the other side does the same or very similar thing. Originally Posted by MT Pockets

I don't give a rat's ass which "side" is calling out the hypocrisy. They should be free to do so without anyone deeming the comparison off-topic.

You can argue false equivalence, just don't call it an infraction of the rules.

It’s a pretty clear choice.

Why did you decline to clarify this when wakeup asked you to? I am also curious to hear what you mean. If you think rules are being applied "asymmetrically" then it's important for you to speak up. For your own sake as well as everyone else's. Originally Posted by lustylad

I was indicating as to what caused me to ask the question. My stance on this is clear, but irrelevant. He thoroughly answered my question, and I need no clarification.

I was thinking of starting a thread on race-baiting, bigotry, and asymmetric speech rules in a new thread, but I don't have the time, and it would be a pain in the rear for the moderators. Maybe later.

It’s a pretty clear choice. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

No, it's not. It's highly subjective. A can of worms. A Pandora's box. A rabbit hole that will kill this forum if we go down it.

You need to stop shouting "Whataboutism" every time someone points out how partisan and blind you are to the left committing the same/similar transgressions as the ones you accuse others of. You can't deal with that, so you demand a new rule that would squelch the right of others to call you out for such obvious hypocrisy.

But thanks for admitting you're the one pressuring wakeup to crack down on so-called "thread hijacking".

I couldn't of said this better myself....of course,Lusty always says it better..I just love the way he says things!

No, it's not. It's highly subjective. A can of worms. A Pandora's box. A rabbit hole that will kill this forum if we go down it.

You need to stop shouting "Whataboutism" every time someone points out how partisan and blind you are to the left committing the same/similar transgressions as the ones you accuse others of. You can't deal with that, so you demand a new rule that would squelch the right of others to call you out for such obvious hypocrisy.

But thanks for admitting you're the one pressuring wakeup to crack down on so-called "thread hijacking". Originally Posted by lustylad

No, it's not. It's highly subjective. A can of worms. A Pandora's box. A rabbit hole that will kill this forum if we go down it.

You need to stop shouting "Whataboutism" every time someone points out how partisan and blind you are to the left committing the same/similar transgressions as the ones you accuse others of. You can't deal with that, so you demand a new rule that would squelch the right of others to call you out for such obvious hypocrisy.

But thanks for admitting you're the one pressuring wakeup to crack down on so-called "thread hijacking". Originally Posted by lustylad

I hate to burst your bubble, lustylad, but I have never pressured wakeup to crack down on thread hijacking. I don’t think I have ever mentioned thread hikacking to him. You’re either thinking of another poster or something else.

But I have and will continue call it to the forum’s attention when a thread appears to be deliberately hijacked, or when the basis of someone’s argument begins with “what about,” which is another way to divert the discussion. In fact, I’ve done it myself once or twice and even admitted it when I’ve done it.

I have as much influence as you do over the way the rules of this forum are enforced, which is precisely none whatsoever.

Further, I have no input into the rules of this forum.

I have been warned and pointed by wakeup when I’ve broken the rules, which is what I’m assuming you’re whining about. But I try hard not to break them, as I’m sure you also do.

I tried not to break the rules before the new ones were implemented. But every time I broke them, I got slapped with points and was banned once or twice or more over the years. And that was when we had basically no rules.

So stop whining so much and figure out how to play the game without breaking the rules.

You’re a smart guy and should be up to the challenge.

WELL. it appears we have a new topic of the day .. "stay on topic".

while it appears i fared better than others for this hot topic .. i will say i got a warning only on this post.

https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1060898680&postcount=3

i don't quite get it since the OP himself asked for all topics. i coulda posted a Led Zep vid.

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?p=1...post1060898680

appears to be a judgement call. and overall i think the mod needs to erase the "Wild Wild West" and if out of the reborn ECC it comes off draconian well if you consider the WWW was always the only forum allowed for this direct attacks anywhere on ECC.

so people who might not have joined the WWW are now filtering in and know nothing they post will get a disparaging reply. if the rules have to be held close to the vest given what was the norm here it again it's better than no Political forum.

I hate to burst your bubble, lustylad, but I have never pressured wakeup to crack down on thread hijacking. I don’t think I have ever mentioned thread hikacking to him. You’re either thinking of another poster or something else.

But I have and will continue (sic) call it to the forum’s attention when a thread appears to be deliberately hijacked, or when the basis of someone’s argument begins with “what about,” which is another way to divert the discussion. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Never mentioned thread hijacking? Seriously?

Here are 10 examples in the past month alone. And these are just the easiest ones to find. I don't have time to dig up the rest.

And by the way, yelling "Hi Jack!" is just another way of ducking the point and avoiding serious debate.

Hi, Jack! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Hi Jack! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Hi, Jack!

LOL! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Hi Jack! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Hi Jack! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Hi, Jack! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Sounds like another case of "What Aboutism" IBH. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The Whataboutism is strong in this post...
Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

WhatAboutism! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The whataboutism is worse in the gun debate than any other. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Please reread what you accused me of and my denial. I didn’t deny posting “HiJack” when a thread appears to be hijacked. Or claiming “What Aboutism.” when the rebuttal to a point is to reply with a “what Aboutism.”

Quite to the contrary, I freely admitted and embraced doing it. And I will do it again.

Not one of those posts violated any rule of ECCIE or this forum.

No, you were whining that I was urging wakeup to change the rules about hijacking threads, which is patently false.

But thanks for admitting you're the one pressuring wakeup to crack down on so-called "thread hijacking".

Don’t waste your time proving something I freely admit.

Your accusations are baseless. Your quest is pointless. But your misguided hostility may not be. LOL!

Have a wonderful evening.

I just read that one of our members here is upset that I didn’t crack down on thread hijacking.

If you really want Staff to issue infractions for thread hijacking, fine. Your wish is granted... from now on, be very careful what y’all post... hijacking points will add up VERY quickly... Originally Posted by Wakeup

^^^ Gee, I wonder which one of our members wakeup was talking about?

Could it have been the guy who has posted at least 10 times in the past month with his cutesy little "Hi Jack!" and "Whataboutism!" comments?

Naaahhh! Must be someone else!

Please reread what you accused me of and my denial. I didn’t deny posting “HiJack” when a thread appears to be hijacked. Or claiming “What Aboutism.” when the rebuttal to a point is to reply with a “what Aboutism.”

Quite to the contrary, I freely admitted and embraced doing it. And I will do it again.

Not one of those posts violated any rule of ECCIE or this forum.

so you agree that any of my replies like "#AboutWhatism and "I like MkickyD's coffee better than Starbucks" is inside the posting rules.

got it.

No, you were whining that I was urging wakeup to change the rules about hijacking threads, which is patently false.



Don’t waste your time proving something I freely admit.

Your accusations are baseless. Your quest is pointless. But your misguided hostility may not be. LOL!

Have a wonderful evening. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

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^^^ Gee, I wonder which one of our members wakeup was talking about?

Could it have been the guy who has posted at least 10 times in the past month with his cutesy little "Hi Jack!" and "Whataboutism!" comments?

Naaahhh! Must be someone else! Originally Posted by lustylad

Again, you’re barking up the wrong tree, man. Maybe wakeup will confirm that. Maybe it’s none of your business who complained to him. But it wasn’t me.

Grow up.

"Grow up"? That's soooo rude and disrespectful!

Wakeup isn't going to confirm anything. That leaves you room to deny it. Except in your case the denial isn't plausible. Nobody else whines constantly about so-called thread hijacking.

But that’s not what you accused me of, lustylad. is it?

You claimed I admitted doing something, which I didn’t do. The claim was either mistaken or a lie. I don’t give a rats ass what you want to call it. I’m not interested in humoring your little taunting game any more.

You won’t win this whatever you call it. It’s not a debate. It’s simply you accusing me and my defending myself.

Having fun?

I smell a rat!

Lucy, yu gotz sum splainin ta doo