Trump announces transgenders cannot serve in the Military!

there are practical reason why transgender shouldn't be in the military.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/26/5-...ary-realities/

5 Good Reasons Why Transgender Accommodations Aren’t Compatible With Military Realities
Ryan T. Anderson / July 26, 2017

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump announced that he was reversing an Obama-era policy that opened the military to people who identify as transgender.

That policy, announced during the last year of President Barack Obama’s second term, was scheduled to go into effect earlier this month, but Secretary of Defense James Mattis announced a six-month delay in its implementation to review whether it was in fact prudent given the nature of the military and its mission.

The mission of our armed forces is winning wars and protecting the nation. So any personnel policy must prioritize military readiness and mission-critical purposes first.

Trump’s announcement that it would not be feasible to open the military to personnel who identify as transgender returns the military to the policy it had always observed, before the Obama administration’s 12th-hour, politically driven imposition of a transgender agenda.

As I explain in my forthcoming book “When Harry Became Sally: Responding to the Transgender Moment,” the best biology, psychology, and philosophy conclude that sex is a biological reality and that gender is the social expression of that reality.

The most helpful therapies for gender dysphoria focus not on achieving the impossible—changing bodies to conform to thoughts and feelings—but on helping people accept and even embrace the truth about their bodies and reality.

Unfortunately, 41 percent of people who identify as transgender will attempt suicide at some point in their lives, compared to 4.6 percent of the general population. And people who have had transition surgery are 19 times more likely than average to die by suicide.

People who identify as transgender suffer a host of mental health and social problems—including anxiety, depression, and substance abuse—at higher rates than the general population. Biology isn’t bigotry, and we need a sober and honest assessment of the human costs of getting human nature wrong.

So there were well-justified concerns that Obama was using the military to advance the latest social justice culture warrior agenda item—seeking to mainstream transgender identities and promote controversial therapies for gender dysphoria.

Obama’s policy change ignored the reality that placing individuals who might be at increased risk for suicide or other psychological injury in the most stressful situation imaginable—the battlefield—is reckless.

But even people who disagree about the underlying transgender issues should acknowledge that there are practical concerns for the military when it comes to people who identify as transgender.
Wednesday’s announcement reflects good reasons why transgender accommodations are incompatible with military realities. Here are just a few of the considerations:

1. That the privacy of service members must not be infringed.

This means that no soldiers, including those who identify as transgender, should be allowed to use the sex-specific facility of the opposite sex. When it comes to barracks, bathroom, showers, etc., the privacy of all service members must be respected.
Given the nature of military living quarters, it is unclear where soldiers who identify as transgender could be housed.

2. That all service members remain combat-ready at all times.

But soldiers who have “transitioned” medically require regular hormone treatments and follow-up visits after sex-reassignment surgery. It is unclear how someone who has “transitioned” would be deployable.

3. That all service members be held to the same physical fitness standards, and that these standards by based on the reality of biological sex, not the subjective “gender identity.”

Men who identify as women should not be held to a lower standard than other men—they should be held to the standard for someone with their body that the military has determined is most effective for combat.

4. That scarce taxpayer monies not be expended on costly and controversial sex-reassignment therapies.

This is particularly the case as growing foreign threats are stretching our military’s resources, and as we struggle as a nation to provide basic health care to all. But it is unclear how soldiers who identify as transgender would pay for their treatments apart from including coverage in Tricare, the military health care program.

5. That the medical judgment, conscience rights, and religious liberty of military doctors, chaplains, commanding officers, and fellow service members be respected.

Unless and until military leaders are able to find a way to respect all of these provisions, there will remain good reasons why the military will be unable to accommodate people who identify as transgender.

there are practical reason why transgender shouldn't be in the military.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/26/5-...ary-realities/

5 Good Reasons Why Transgender Accommodations Aren’t Compatible With Military Realities
Ryan T. Anderson / July 26, 2017


Unfortunately, 41 percent of people who identify as transgender will attempt suicide at some point in their lives, compared to 4.6 percent of the general population. And people who have had transition surgery are 19 times more likely than average to die by suicide.

People who identify as transgender suffer a host of mental health and social problems—including anxiety, depression, and substance abuse—at higher rates than the general population. Biology isn’t bigotry, and we need a sober and honest assessment of the human costs of getting human nature wrong.

So there were well-justified concerns that Obama was using the military to advance the latest social justice culture warrior agenda item—seeking to mainstream transgender identities and promote controversial therapies for gender dysphoria.

Obama’s policy change ignored the reality that placing individuals who might be at increased risk for suicide or other psychological injury in the most stressful situation imaginable—the battlefield—is reckless.
Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Lib-retards are so adamantly opposed to guns, except when it fits their lib-retard agenda to arm a suicide prone segment of society with pistols, rifles an hand grenades.

I wonder how many were straight guys lying out their ass to get out? Hmmmmmmm. Originally Posted by WTF

IMO a good 20% or so..

I don't know. That is an issue. I won't argue that.

My understanding, however, is that their are transgendered people in the military now. They may not be in the process of changing their bodies to match their gender ID. Maybe the hormone therapy isn't the big issue we would think it to be.
Originally Posted by grean

Or maybe they are not even DOING anything to transition?

It doesn't. In fact the military is not an show not be an equal opportunity employer.

However, many medical conditions do affect a person's ability to perform physically or mentally and get waivers all the time. I don't even believe transgendered people need to apply for waivers currently. Originally Posted by grean

The only reason they don't is cause obama opened the door to them. BUT i would like to know HOW DOES it not qualify as a mental disorder, when for DECADES it was??

I know two people who've gotten out of the army and marines within the last 3 years. They say the US military gives one free elective surgery a year as kind of a recruiting tool. You can get a nose job, boob job, LASIK, etc. My guess is that is how Manning got his pee pee chopped off. Originally Posted by gnadfly

What the fuck?? I retired in 2012, and never heard of that? Must have been added in after i left.


And if they are openly transgendered, but didn't mention they had that mental issue when they came in, couldn't they bee seen to have LIED ON their entrance medical??

IMO a good 20% or so..



Or maybe they are not even DOING anything to transition?

The only reason they don't is cause obama opened the door to them. BUT i would like to know HOW DOES it not qualify as a mental disorder, when for DECADES it was??

What the fuck?? I retired in 2012, and never heard of that? Must have been added in after i left.

And if they are openly transgendered, but didn't mention they had that mental issue when they came in, couldn't they bee seen to have LIED ON their entrance medical?? Originally Posted by garhkal

fraudulent enlistment with dishonorable discharge is something of an oxymoron.

And if they are openly transgendered, but didn't mention they had that mental issue when they came in, couldn't they bee seen to have LIED ON their entrance medical?? Originally Posted by garhkal

Have you ever taken a psych eval? It shows.

the boy scouts policy, which was changed in January, is to allow girls who are confused and bewildered about themselves into their ranks

the boy scouts policy, which was changed in January, is to allow girls who are confused and bewildered about themselves into their ranks Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

You're joking, right? Seriously? They let tranny butches join the boy scouts now? Wtf? I'm still trying to figure out how they could let openly gay scout leaders join. That's like putting out a welcome mat for (forbidden subject). Providing a fertile new hunting ground for all of the Jerry Sanduskies of the world.

As a society, we've lost all common sense!

I would have more respect for you homophobes of you didn't try to justify your phobia. Just say you don't like transgendered and you don't want them in the military.

I can say you're bigots, but I can't argue your reason any other way. Your money and ability to serve arguments have all but been completely debunked.

I would have more respect for you homophobes of you didn't try to justify your phobia. Just say you don't like transgendered and you don't want them in the military.

I can say you're bigots, but I can't argue your reason any other way. Your money and ability to serve arguments have all but been completely debunked. Originally Posted by grean

You're the one who has been debunked, greenie-weenie. I've read a slew of well-reasoned and persuasive arguments in this thread about why we shouldn't allow trannies in the military. You can't refute them, so now you quit trying... it's much easier to call us bigots and homophobes.

At the end of that day, that's all you are, Junior.

A homophobic bigot.

Every one of your arguments have been blown up.

When you were in the military, how did you feel about your fellow soldiers' commitment to serving our country?

At the end of that day, that's all you are, Junior.

A homophobic bigot.

Every one of your arguments have been blown up.

When you were in the military, how did you feel about your fellow soldiers' commitment to serving our country? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

And at the end of the day you're a Tranny loving, cocksucking pig

FAGGOT

I would have more respect for you homophobes of you didn't try to justify your phobia. Just say you don't like transgendered and you don't want them in the military.

I can say you're bigots, but I can't argue your reason any other way. Your money and ability to serve arguments have all but been completely debunked. Originally Posted by grean

You're a moron, puke green. You wanna give automatic weapons and hand grenades to a group of unstable people who have a measurably high propensity to commit suicide, you fucking moron.

And at the end of the day you're a Tranny loving, cocksucking pig

FAGGOT Originally Posted by bambino

+1

Thanks, you beat me to it.

At the end of the day, the cocksucking pig wants to turn the US military into a safe space for confused misfits to dabble in social-sexual experimentation, rather than a professional killing machine whose mission is to defend all of us from foreign aggression, terrorism, and those who seek to do us harm.

I would have more respect for you homophobes of you didn't try to justify your phobia. Just say you don't like transgendered and you don't want them in the military.

I can say you're bigots, but I can't argue your reason any other way. Your money and ability to serve arguments have all but been completely debunked. Originally Posted by grean

putting your name calling aside for the moment while at the same time wondering:

what your reasoned arguments might be in favor of having openly and elective medical benefit-claiming transgender troops with all the attendant elective medical requirements put upon us

and the associated downtime and the continued therapies required for a lifetime

and considering the much higher suicide rates of transgenders either pre or post op (46% and then 45%) which indicates strongly the instability of that sort of troop

other than its your feeling about it being only right and fair

I can only say there is no right to be in the military, you do know that, don't you?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ips/515058001/

Trump spends ten times more flying back and forth to Flordia

Blacks integrated in the military?...racist say no

Women integrated into the military...Misogynist, No

Gays integrated in the military... homophobic peeps, No


Transgenders integrated into the military (even though they are already serving now)....Trump and his supporters "Kick them out!".....just like a Trump campaign rally


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