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Wrong, the death rate for Covid-19 has hovered around 2% from the beginning long before the vaccine was introduced, that statistic really hasn't changed. If you contract covid there is still a 2% chance you can succumb to it regardless of vaccination status. Originally Posted by Levianon17

Officially there have been 866,000 deaths and 70.7 million cases to date. That represents a case fatality ratio of 1.2%. But there have been a lot of people who contracted COVID, symptomatic and asymptomatic, who were never tested or otherwise weren't counted as cases.

If you look at the percentage of people who had COVID antibodies and the number of COVID deaths back around February, 2021, before vaccination became widespread, you end up with around a 0.8% infection fatality ratio.

Thankfully the number, for the population as a whole, is lower than 0.8% now, because a lot of people who get COVID have been vaccinated and/or previously had an infection. So they have some immunity from severe disease. And Omicron, which is prevalent now, is less deadly than the other variants.

I'm guessing that you believe the Mass Formation of multiple countries coming out with the Build Back Better moniker at the exact same time was just a freakish coincidence too?

Which leads me to believe that the fact that the median age of death from the covid was ~85 years old, with multiple comorbidities, was also a freakish coincidence as well. This ain't hard math.


Don't get your panties in a wad just yet. We are sending in a crack hit squad, more like a death squad - kinda like The Immortals in the movie 300 - to delve the depths of that very thing.

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Indiana life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64

The head of Indianapolis-based insurance company OneAmerica said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working-age people.

“We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

OneAmerica is a $100 billion insurance company that has had its headquarters in Indianapolis since 1877. The company has approximately 2,400 employees and sells life insurance, including group life insurance to employers nationwide.

Davison said the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica.

“And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said.

“Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.”... Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Uhh, you've got it backwards. From your article, and my link below, Davison, the CEO of the insurance company, actually said the reason deaths in the 18 to 64 age group are up is because the CDC and others are UNDERCOUNTING Covid deaths:

Notably, Davison said that even if COVID-19 is not listed on a person’s death certificate, that doesn’t mean the virus didn’t play a role. For example, Davison said a person can contract COVID-19 and recover, but the virus could have triggered a separate illness that eventually leads to death.

“It may not all be Covid on their death certificates, but deaths are up in just huge, huge numbers,” Davidson said.

Micah Pollak, associate professor of economics at Indiana University Northwest, told The Guardian that high rates of mortality with COVID-19 along with disability are likely to continue to go up as more people catch the virus.

“We really don’t know what the tail of this thing looks like. The further you get out [from infection], the longer time you have to potentially develop some kind of complications,” said Pollak.

Complications from COVID-19 aren’t well understood, as many people suffer from lingering symptoms sometimes referred to as long COVID-19. The CDC says some post-COVID conditions can last weeks or even months after first being infected with the virus that caused COVID-19. Commonly reported symptoms vary widely, from difficulty in breathing and/or thinking, joint pain, mood changes, sleep problems and changes in taste or smell.


https://thehill.com/changing-america...rcent-over-pre

This is apparent from comparing TOTAL 2020 deaths to TOTAL deaths in previous years. 503,000 more people died in 2020 than 2019. The CDC said only 345,000 of them died from COVID. What about the other 158,000? (503,000 - 345,000 = 158,000)

Well, maybe 30,000 or 40,000 more died because of the increase in the population of the aged. A good number of the rest probably died in 2020 because of COVID, that was uncounted as COVID.

Your belief that the median age of people who die from COVID is 85 is wrong.

See this:

https://www.wboy.com/news/health/cor...-for-11-a-m-3/

The average age of people in West Virginia who died from COVID declined from 77 in January, 2021 to 67 in October, 2021. The average is probably lower than 67 now.

Why? Probably because older people get vaccinated and boosted in higher percentages than younger people, leaving younger people more exposed.

The only decent argument to be made on your side, which nobody here has made, is that COVID is causing other problems with health care, and maybe mental health. People with heart attacks and the like aren't always getting prompt and quality treatment when the hospitals are overloaded with COVID patients for example. I'd argue, like before, so what. Yes, maybe COVID the virus didn't cause the deaths, but the pandemic did.

You have a talented brain. Unfortunately you engage in too much mental masturbation. If it were just masturbation your dick would have fallen off by now. But with mental masturbation your brains fall out. And that's not a pretty sight. Your religion is COVID denial. I've shown you the truth and the light, and you are always welcome in the Free Markets Church of Tiny. We're running a special this week. For only $5,000 you can have your soul saved. For an extra $10,000 your own planet in the hereafter, after you pass away. And for you, Why_Yes_I_Do, I'll throw in some attractive virgins at $100 a pop to populate that planet. That's a lot better deal than what you've been paying for those worn out old scags in AMP's.

You had one job, to answer three Yes/No questions. How hard of a task was that?

- Do you believe that all deaths from the covid were medically coded/recorded per existing law?
- Do you perceive a difference between "from" the covid vs "with" the covid?
- Do you believe the PCR test was highly accurate and developed and calibrated to detect the covid?

As penalty, I must add a fourth:
- Do you know that the PCR test was removed from use for detecting the covid on Dec 31, 2021?

As to your all cause death, also take a gander at:
https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2825570 Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

So, with your link you're arguing the reason for the 503,000 additional deaths was the vaccine? The problem with the argument is that the 503,000 excess deaths occurred in 2020, when the vaccines weren't available to the public.

Officially there have been 866,000 deaths and 70.7 million cases to date. That represents a case fatality ratio of 1.2%. But there have been a lot of people who contracted COVID, symptomatic and asymptomatic, who were never tested or otherwise weren't counted as cases.

If you look at the percentage of people who had COVID antibodies and the number of COVID deaths back around February, 2021, before vaccination became widespread, you end up with around a 0.8% infection fatality ratio.

Thankfully the number, for the population as a whole, is lower than 0.8% now, because a lot of people who get COVID have been vaccinated and/or previously had an infection. So they have some immunity from severe disease. And Omicron, which is prevalent now, is less deadly than the other variants. Originally Posted by Tiny

Ok so the mortality rate is even lower considering those that contract the virus are not counted statistically. The bottom line is most people will survive Covid without any medical intervention and another large percentage will never contract covid.

Ok so the mortality rate is even lower considering those that contract the virus are not counted statistically. The bottom line is most people will survive Covid without any medical intervention and another large percentage will never contract covid. Originally Posted by Levianon17

I think I agree. I'm not sure whether a "large percentage" of the population will never contract COVID. Time will tell. But those who do not get infected will mostly be vaccinated.

I think I agree. I'm not sure whether a "large percentage" of the population will never contract COVID. Time will tell. But those who do not get infected will mostly be vaccinated. Originally Posted by Tiny

Not necessarily. Hypothetically speaking, if everyone in America contracted Covid-19 and the mortality rate is 2% then based on our population of 320 million 6.4 million people would have died from Covid-19. The Pandemic is roughly two years in and I don't think the death toll is at a million so some people will go unscathed even if they are unvaccinated.

...Yes, maybe COVID the virus didn't cause the deaths, but the pandemic did... Your religion is COVID denial.... Originally Posted by Tiny

No denial here. Been there done that, twice maybe. Trump was right - it's something we have to learn to live with regardless of where you think it came from. Intuitively, even members of the Tiny Chapel know what shit stinks like. But if you think one size fits all and the "vaxx" is the only way to survive - don't you really have bigger fish to fry or geese to cook? Just schedule your monthly shot and instead of gambling in the lottery or stock market, call your local booky and place bets on # of deaths and from what causes, which would include the political fall out from censorship, shuttering entire economies and medical malpractice.

So, with your link you're arguing the reason for the 503,000 additional deaths was the vaccine? The problem with the argument is that the 503,000 excess deaths occurred in 2020, when the vaccines weren't available to the public. Originally Posted by Tiny

That's the funny thing about history - it's time based. So anything anomalous going on through early 2020 by chance? Anything freakishly unusual? List too long to recall perhaps?

So, with your link you're arguing the reason for the 503,000 additional deaths was the vaccine? ... Originally Posted by Tiny

Not really. As I said; also take a gander at. Professional Libertarian to Libertarian sharing of an information compendium.

I'm assuming you attended grade school and maybe Jr High. I'm not saying you excelled at either or that you made it though in under16 or so years. Surely some cute freckle faced girl passed you a note along the way asking if you liked her, with a check yes or no option. Though I do understand if that never happened to you. But these 4 yes/no questions require no data, nadda - just your yes/no opinion.

- Do you believe that all deaths from the covid were medically coded/recorded per existing law?
- Do you perceive a difference between "from" the covid vs "with" the covid?
- Do you believe the PCR test was highly accurate and developed and calibrated to detect the covid?
- Do you know that the PCR test was removed from use for detecting the covid on Dec 31, 2021?

I should add a fifth as a sandbagger fee, but I'm not sure how that would help.

Uhh, you've got it backwards. From your article, and my link below, Davison, the CEO of the insurance company, actually said the reason deaths in the 18 to 64 age group are up is because the CDC and others are UNDERCOUNTING Covid deaths:
.... Originally Posted by Tiny

Luckily, the insurance companies chew up data by the shit-tonne at a time. They will break those numbers down with their Autist Actuarys to the square centimeter. Although and with fair warning, any time you unleash a cadre of Actuarys, bad things can happen to your wallet. I think it's call Actuary Induced Poverty. Not sure.

Why_Yes_I_Do, Your questions are irrelevant to explaining why 503,000 more people died in the USA in 2020 compared to 2019. However, answers are,

- Do you believe that all deaths from the covid were medically coded/recorded per existing law? No
- Do you perceive a difference between "from" the covid vs "with" the covid? Yes
- Do you believe the PCR test was highly accurate and developed and calibrated to detect the covid? It was developed in the 80's. It was not developed to detect COVID. By my definition, it is not highly accurate. It IDENTIFIES MANY MORE FALSE NEGATIVES THAN FALSE POSITIVES. That may be part of why COVID-19 cases and deaths have been undercounted.
- Do you know that the PCR test was removed from use for detecting the covid on Dec 31, 2021? This is not true.

As to your other points, I'm better at grade school math than most of the posters here. On occasion when speaking with women, I have not initially been able to distinguish between "yes" and "no", which has, from time to time, brought pain and heartache into my life.

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Thankfully the number, for the population as a whole, is lower than 0.8% now, because a lot of people who get COVID have been vaccinated and/or previously had an infection. So they have some immunity from severe disease. And Omicron, which is prevalent now, is less deadly than the other variants. Originally Posted by Tiny

It's fair to say omicron is less deadly. Right now there are 2,200 CoVid deaths per day. This is less than the 3,000 deaths per day in Jan 2021 before the roll out of the vaccines began. I would agree with you that the death rate for CoVid is around .8%. Could easily go to 1% with the large number of people who are not vaxed. About 100 million people are not vaxed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...se-2022-01-24/

It's fair to say omicron is less deadly. Right now there are 2,200 CoVid deaths per day. This is less than the 3,000 deaths per day in Jan 2021 before the roll out of the vaccines began. I would agree with you that the death rate for CoVid is around .8%. Could easily go to 1% with the large number of people who are not vaxed. About 100 million people are not vaxed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...se-2022-01-24/ Originally Posted by adav8s28

covid is over. it's dead. burning out. it's the new flu. at best. fauci is a criminal mass murderer who should be hanged.


he paid to keep this dangerous and banned in the US research going in a nation that is a piece of shit, communist. in a foreign lab with known safety issues.


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