For the ladies, why is Santorum TOO conservative?

You are correct, IB. I'll try again.

THEY . . . ARE . . . NOT . . . THE . . . SAME . . . TYPE . . . OF . . . CASE

Maybe that will help. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

+1

COG, the lefties do not possess the innate cognitive skills to understand your argument. You must employ simple, monosyllabic words; otherwise, they do not understand. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

As you all know, I am no legal eagle...

But does this case seem similar?

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Originally Posted by WTF

Now let us all remember that there are nine Justices. They do not always agree or even agree with you two fine legal scholars! LOL

You two might need to try and figure out that just because two people disagree does not mean one side is stupid. It does not rule it out but it does not make everyone that disgree's with you two retarded.

I was asking for ya'lls input, not your scorn! God damn ya'll a bitchy tonite

I didn't even take a side. I only tried to explain that the cases are different, and are viewed differently by the Court.

I didn't even take a side. I only tried to explain that the cases are different, and are viewed differently by the Court. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I did not say you did anything other than type slow like you were typing to a dumbass. (which you might be but you don't have to be so obvious!)

I didn't aim the post at you, WTF, but it obviously resonates. If the shoe fits . . .

. If the shoe fits . . . Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

plant it in cutiepis's ass!

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Contraception, however, and yes, women, are not as protected as race. The law violating the right of the Church to not pay for services they deem abhorrent will be superior to the attempt by the state to make them pay.

So you have two different standards. The cases are not similar. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

This is just one more reason that women must be vigilant. As we can see from this thread and the limited success of Sanatorium, there is a well funded, vocal and quite active segment of society that wants to get all the "slutty" women back in line. Just a thought.

And OH thinks this is settled law...............and the other side has lost the war !





Seven US states have filed a lawsuit challenging a requirement in President Barack Obama's 2010 health care law that religious organizations provide insurance covering birth control.

The lawsuit filed Thursday, which also lists three Catholic organizations as plaintiffs, threatens to deepen a vicious election-year row over contraception despite a compromise announced by the president earlier this month (labeling it a comprise is a hoot ).

The attorneys general of Nebraska, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas allege that the requirement that religious organizations purchase employee health insurance to cover contraception violates the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion.

"This regulation forces millions of Americans to choose between following religious convictions and complying with federal law," Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning said in a statement.

"We will not stand idly by while our constitutionally guaranteed liberties are discarded by an administration that has sworn to uphold them," he said.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-0...ama-birth.html

And OH thinks this is settled law and the other side has lost.


Virginia House Passes Bills Restricting Abortion

By Sam Favate

Oklahoma’s not the only state passing laws restricting abortions this week. The Virginia House of Delegates passed two of the strictest anti-abortion bills in the nation on Tuesday, and opponents say it’s part of a strategy which would make abortion illegal immediately if the Supreme Court were to overturn Roe v. Wade, CBS reported.

The first bill defines personhood at conception and is similar to the one passed by the Oklahoma Senate, which was noted in this morning’s AM Roundup. The Virginia bill doesn’t ban abortions, but it would make certain kinds of contraceptives illegal. If the Roe decision were eventually overturned, this measure would also make abortion illegal immediately.
The second measure passed in Virginia requires that women seeking an abortion be forced to undergo an ultrasound, which would mean a more physically invasive transvaginal ultrasound in the cases of early pregnancy. The Virginia Senate passed an ultrasound bill earlier this month, as Reuters noted. Gov. Bob McDonnell has indicated his support for the law, and is expected to sign it.

Several other states have ultrasound laws, including Texas, where a federal judge allowed the state to begin enforcing it earlier this month, after an appeals court blocked part of the statute.

Virginia’s approach to the personhood bill is different from other states where similar measures failed, like Colorado and Mississippi. Virginia’s bill doesn’t seek an amendment to the state constitution and looks to make change through the legal code, the Baltimore Sun reported.

The intent, however, is the same, according to Elizabeth Nash, a public policy advocate at the Guttmacher Institute, which studies reproductive health issues. Nash said the measure is ultimately aimed at banning abortion, contraception and infertility treatments, the Sun noted.

Proponents deny that banning contraceptives is part of the agenda. George Allen, a Republican who is running for the U.S. Senate in Virginia, indicated through a spokeswoman that he supports the personhood bill but remains opposed to the government prohibiting or banning contraceptives, CBS reported.

Allen’s opponent, Tim Kaine, a Democrat and former governor of Virginia, called the bill “reckless.”

Gov. McDonnell has not yet taken a position on the personhood bill.

And OH thinks this is settled law...............and the other side has lost the war !
Originally Posted by Whirlaway

This is my post was that immediately preceded your post.

This is just one more reason that women must be vigilant. As we can see from this thread and the limited success of Sanatorium, there is a well funded, vocal and quite active segment of society that wants to get all the "slutty" women back in line. Just a thought.
Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

They are polar opposites so reading the rest of your post is moot.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...ing-hardly.php

“I don’t think they have much of a case under current precedent,” said Jessica Arons of the Center For American Progress. “Courts in New York and California have already upheld the exemption that was initially adopted by the Administration. And I think the further accommodation that the Administration has offered shows exceeding sensitivity to claims of religious liberty that are not required under the law.”

Adam Winkler, a constitutional law professor at UCLA, was more blunt. “This lawsuit is inspired by politics and nothing more,” he told TPM. “Even under the previously announced rule there was little chance of success.”

And OH thinks this is settled law and the other side has lost.


Virginia House Passes Bills Restricting Abortion

By Sam Favate

Oklahoma’s not the only state passing laws restricting abortions this week. The Virginia House of Delegates passed two of the strictest anti-abortion bills in the nation on Tuesday, and opponents say it’s part of a strategy which would make abortion illegal immediately if the Supreme Court were to overturn Roe v. Wade, CBS reported.

The first bill defines personhood at conception and is similar to the one passed by the Oklahoma Senate, which was noted in this morning’s AM Roundup. The Virginia bill doesn’t ban abortions, but it would make certain kinds of contraceptives illegal. If the Roe decision were eventually overturned, this measure would also make abortion illegal immediately.
The second measure passed in Virginia requires that women seeking an abortion be forced to undergo an ultrasound, which would mean a more physically invasive transvaginal ultrasound in the cases of early pregnancy. The Virginia Senate passed an ultrasound bill earlier this month, as Reuters noted. Gov. Bob McDonnell has indicated his support for the law, and is expected to sign it.

Several other states have ultrasound laws, including Texas, where a federal judge allowed the state to begin enforcing it earlier this month, after an appeals court blocked part of the statute.

Virginia’s approach to the personhood bill is different from other states where similar measures failed, like Colorado and Mississippi. Virginia’s bill doesn’t seek an amendment to the state constitution and looks to make change through the legal code, the Baltimore Sun reported.

The intent, however, is the same, according to Elizabeth Nash, a public policy advocate at the Guttmacher Institute, which studies reproductive health issues. Nash said the measure is ultimately aimed at banning abortion, contraception and infertility treatments, the Sun noted.

Proponents deny that banning contraceptives is part of the agenda. George Allen, a Republican who is running for the U.S. Senate in Virginia, indicated through a spokeswoman that he supports the personhood bill but remains opposed to the government prohibiting or banning contraceptives, CBS reported.

Allen’s opponent, Tim Kaine, a Democrat and former governor of Virginia, called the bill “reckless.”

Gov. McDonnell has not yet taken a position on the personhood bill. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I'm pretty much with Olivia on this one...

She did not say it was settled, she said ''women must be vigilant''

Though Whirlaway might have been talking about an earlier post.

IDK, I have a headache!

Say what you want about Santorum, but the guy went from 1% to the lead in just a couple weeks.

He is definitely a goodie goodie but I still like him far better than obambam.

Say what you want about Santorum, but the guy went from 1% to the lead in just a couple weeks.

He is definitely a goodie goodie but I still like him far better than obambam. Originally Posted by LovingKayla

And you can bet your sweet ass that Obama wants him to win more than Mitt.

I can't get any action from folks who keep posting the GOP will will.

I will take on all bets!

Say what you want about Santorum, but the guy went from 1% to the lead in just a couple weeks.

He is definitely a goodie goodie but I still like him far better than obambam. Originally Posted by LovingKayla

Obamas debt is now around 70% ... Santorums economic plan increases the debt to 100% ... 30% more than Obamas.


whats not to like?