the riots and violence

Probably hiding like the guy at the school in Florida

Probably hiding like the guy at the school in Florida Originally Posted by tbone2u

I'm reminded of a regular question ....

"Did you bring a copy of your report with you?"

I also recall a question of a psych counselor in a debriefing session .... when there was a query of any further questions ...

"Are you going to have a session for those who weren't there? They seem upset!"

Nope, wrong, I don't claim to be anything. Originally Posted by USAsoldier

Your handle claims one thing, are you not what you claim with it? Stolen Valor candidate?

Your handle claims one thing ... Originally Posted by O'Mike

... discounts.

Your handle claims one thing, are you not what you claim with it? Stolen Valor candidate? Originally Posted by O'Mike

Ma'am, look up the Stolen Valor Act and then get back at me. Also, don't thank me for my service. I volunteered.

Probably hiding like the guy at the school in Florida Originally Posted by tbone2u

The US Supreme Court has ruled law enforcement officers are not required to risk their lives for anyone.

Various agencies have "mutual assistance" relationships, as you know, I assume, since you portray yourself as an expert on the topic. HPD should have a swat team as a large agency in the metro area and to assure their training is consistent with the most recent concepts and equipment. (NASA has been good in the past about special operation equipment ... lending program.) The FBI has special operations teams in the area, who will not only train, but assist depending on the issues involved.

Many agencies have "social" programs that were initiated in connection with "community policing" programs. It is a challenge to make a fine purse from a sow's ear.

Quality training on a continuous basis with constant upgrading of standards is the appropriate solution to most of the recent "use of force" incidents that have been in the news ... because the situation escalated out of the officers' control.

About 30 years ago the San Diego PD had the highest officer death rate with respect to responding to calls. The short was after an investigation that the officers had STOPPED conducting themselves in the manner taught at the department's training academy for new hires. They got back to the basics. That's why most of the officers hurt from citizen contacts are mid-range officers rather than new ones. They get complacent.

When LE agencies get their budgets cut ... training is usually the first to suffer. Not a good decision. There is more waste that can be cut, but training is not one of them. LE training is inexpensive and there are grants that offset the more expensive training that involves special locations or special equipment.... and training how to "counsel" people etc is low on the list and should be reserved for special officers assigned to that responsibility with inter-agency cooperation to reserve/conserve expenses .... just like the "SWAT" teams.

Pouring money into "feel good" programs hasn't worked so far so what makes politicians think it will NOW? The little turds tearing down statues, defacing veteran memorials, and burning small businesses are the result of higher education "feel good" courses .....

Mommy and Daddy are supposed to train people how to behave. Not cops! Originally Posted by LexusLover

Never said the 4th largest city shouldn't have a SWAT team. I don't believe in militarizing law enforcement.

Yes sir you are right. The Supreme Court did make that ruling.
But know what? I am not a hero by any stretch of the imagination but....
Had I been there, I would have run into that school, armed or not, to help those kids. I look at it maybe differently than you soldier boy.
By your standards I am an old guy. Being an old guy, I understand the value of a young life. I would gladly give mine to save the life of one of those lost in the school. They deserved the chance to live a life.
I can't tell you now that I would have run into that school as fast as my old legs would go. And maybe, just maybe.....the bullets the shooter expended on me may have saved one or two kids.
I'm good with that.

Yes sir you are right. The Supreme Court did make that ruling.
But know what? I am not a hero by any stretch of the imagination but....
Had I been there, I would have run into that school, armed or not, to help those kids. I look at it maybe differently than you soldier boy.
By your standards I am an old guy. Being an old guy, I understand the value of a young life. I would gladly give mine to save the life of one of those lost in the school. They deserved the chance to live a life.
I can't tell you now that I would have run into that school as fast as my old legs would go. And maybe, just maybe.....the bullets the shooter expended on me may have saved one or two kids.
I'm good with that. Originally Posted by tbone2u

I never called you old sir, you've stated that on your own more than once.

I would have done the same. You don't know that about me.

The US Supreme Court has ruled law enforcement officers are not required to risk their lives for anyone. Originally Posted by USAsoldier

Please cite the case & SCOTUS # for that holding.

Never said the 4th largest city shouldn't have a SWAT team. Originally Posted by USAsoldier

I don't know if you ever "said" that or not. Doesn't matter whether you said it or not. It's none of your concern whether they do or not.

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Why does HISD Police need a SWAT team?

I don't know if you ever "said" that or not. Doesn't matter whether you said it or not. It's none of your concern whether they do or not. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Is that Houston Independent School District or Humble Independent School District? Either way it really doesn't change my response. I will give you THE answer to your question, even though it doesn't have anything to do with you.

Please cite the case & SCOTUS # for that holding. Originally Posted by LexusLover

C'mon sir, Google works the same for me as it should for you.

I was referring to Houston ISD. And it absolutely concerns me seeing as I'm a taxpayer for all things Houston and Harris County.

"I would have done the same. You don't know that about me."

If that in fact is true then good for you.

Probably hiding like the guy at the school in Florida Originally Posted by tbone2u

No doubt.....any decent person would have made good use of a grenade launcher in that situation....