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Originally Posted by Marshall

No the graph shows that taxes went up on the lower class under Reagan. That is what I said. To be fair they did go down since then but that does not change one bit the premise that concentration of wealth was implemented under Reagan.

Who cares if the poor do not pay any taxes (though you folks bitch about that too). They still make no money and have no real wealth.

No the graph shows that taxes went up on the lower class under Reagan. That is what I said. To be fair they did go down since then but that does not change one bit the premise that concentration of wealth was implemented under Reagan.

Who cares if the poor do not pay any taxes (though you folks bitch about that too). They still make no money and have no real wealth. Originally Posted by WTF

Define "poor" for me.....

Define "poor" for me..... Originally Posted by Marshall

Anything under 500k a year is wannabe rich.

People making 50k - 100k are just getting by.

You make 15 or 20k and life ain't good.

Who cares if the poor do not pay any taxes (though you folks bitch about that too). They still make no money and have no real wealth. Originally Posted by WTF

A lot of people are upset that the tax code is used to redistribute wealth....it's not that they don't pay taxes, it's that they get "tax refunds" for taxes they never paid.......

many people don't believe others should be given their money so the others can buy iphones and big screen tv's........

many believe that those who receive "charity" from government should be obligated to do some public service, even if it's just picking up trash on the side of the road.....

many believe that those who receive "charity" from government should be obligated to do some public service, even if it's just picking up trash on the side of the road..... Originally Posted by Marshall

Maybe they should have to join the military to help drive down that cost.

Make those lazy bums work. I have no problem making people work for chairty, though then it would be hard to call it a chairty.

Not sure what you would bitch about then, probably the lowering of salaries and saving the government money. You bitch about the first and ignore the resulting second point!

Maybe they should have to join the military to help drive down that cost.

Make those lazy bums work. I have no problem making people work for chairty, though then it would be hard to call it a chairty.

Not sure what you would bitch about then, probably the lowering of salaries and saving the government money. You bitch about the first and ignore the resulting second point! Originally Posted by WTF

military is a necessity and a legitimate government function, so I want to have a military that can protect us, and one that can defeat our enemies by a wide margin

you can't find a post of mine that says don't cut the military....military is still government and government is incompetent and corrupt....good thing our government usually goes to war with other governments.....remember those $800 for toilet seats?.....

Maybe they should have to join the military to help drive down that cost.
Originally Posted by WTF

Many poor people join the military and come out good useful citizens.....

No the graph shows that taxes went up on the lower class under Reagan. That is what I said. To be fair they did go down since then but that does not change one bit the premise that concentration of wealth was implemented under Reagan. Originally Posted by WTF

I realize that you never let facts get in the way of your opinions, but that "blip" you are seeing in the lower income groups tax rates was actually caused by increases to FICA tax rates (social security) that were signed into law by Jimmy Carter in 1977. They were scheduled to increase for a number of years and rather sharply in 1981, 1984 & 1988.

Where is my yapping dog video.

Where is my yapping dog video. Originally Posted by pjorourke

CC uses it for his avatar.

I realize that you never let facts get in the way of your opinions, but that "blip" you are seeing in the lower income groups tax rates was actually caused by increases to FICA tax rates (social security) that were signed into law by Jimmy Carter in 1977. They were scheduled to increase for a number of years and rather sharply in 1981, 1984 & 1988.

Where is my yapping dog video. Originally Posted by pjorourke

Nothing change the fact that I think it is not a good thing to concretrate wealth .

That is what has happened in the last thirty years, no amount of spinning will change that fact.

You lower tax's and then bitch about the deficit!

1. Nothing change the fact that I think it is not a good thing to concretrate wealth .

2. You lower tax's and then bitch about the deficit! Originally Posted by WTF

So does this mean you are retracting all the mean shit you have written about St. Ronnie screwing the poor?

1. One thing MUCH worse than concentrated wealth is the government deciding who has too much.

2. One more time: We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. That is what is causing the deficits.

So does this mean you are retracting all the mean shit you have written about St. Ronnie screwing the poor?

. Originally Posted by pjorourke

You know me better than that. I think about Reagan, like you think about Carter.

1. One thing MUCH worse than concentrated wealth is the government deciding who has too much.

. Originally Posted by pjorourke

The wealthy are government. You think poor people buy election and officials?

That is why you limit the concertration of wealth. IMHO of course.

2. One more time: We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. That is what is causing the deficits. Originally Posted by pjorourke

Yes and Sir Ronnie was the one that started us on this path! He did not cut spending. Contrary to Atlas Shurgged held beliefs.

2. One more time: We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. That is what is causing the deficits. Originally Posted by pjorourke

No, we have a revenue problem. Democrats keep getting elected because the American people like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, public schools, paved roads, Pell Grants, HEAP, social programs in general, etc etc etc.

Republicans keep getting elected because what the American people don't like is paying for it all.

No, we have a revenue problem. Democrats keep getting elected because the American people like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, public schools, paved roads, Pell Grants, HEAP, social programs in general, etc etc etc.

Republicans keep getting elected because what the American people don't like is paying for it all. Originally Posted by Doove

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