Don..... hate to break it to you.... but throwing that statement out is a bit rash.... like I said..... let's not get ahead of ourselves.....
Go check again..... both Cam's and RG3s stats were as good and better than Manziels..... if you want to further the debate, Look at Keanums stats at UH.... Keanums final year stats are simply retarded for even a video game..... Sumlin is a bad man..... Manziel is gifted athletically but is still incredibly raw and still far too inconsistent a passer.....
While having SOME mobility is key, and helpful in todays NFL, it will never suppliant the need to be insanely accurate with the ball.... name the last overly mobile QB to win the Superbowl..... Flacco Eli Peyton Brady Dilfer Warner are flat out immobile, Big Ben, Rogers Brees and an aging Elway while athletic and mobile would never be confused as running or hybrid type QBs.... and those are your last 15 super bowl champs.....
Randall Cunningham was the first QB that was going to "change the game" when he replaced Jaworsky in the 80's.... while being able to extend plays now and again is absolutely a requisite this day and age, the best will still be the ones who are deadly accurate that throw first, second, third, and run fourth....
Manziel is off to a good start..... but his size and accuracy so far are working against him..... but he's still young..... highlights are great.... but keep in mind the offensive mind behind the highlights, and the best O-line in the SEC and possibly the country helping him out.... watch the actual tape and you will see too many missed throws....
Originally Posted by Jusanotherdude
We'll just have to wait and see as far as this goes, I don't think it's too far of a stretch. Only time will tell.
Interesting, can't speak for Cam, but I remember reading a couple of articles stating that the numbers between Griffin and Manziel favored Manziel, would love to find the stats if I could, nothing shows up on google besides garbage from the bleacher report. Maybe you can show me otherwise?....Alright, as far as the Keenum comparison, I don't agree with it at all. He put up those numbers because he played in conference USA , I watched most of their games that year, it was a joke, very similar to the great years Kolb had for UH......I didn't watch all of the TAMU games, but from what I saw from Manziel, I thought he was pretty accurate in every time I saw him, that Bama game comes to mind, I thought he was lights out. Regardless, he was still just a freshman, he's only going to get better with accuracy, mechanics, and strength.
This is the argument I've been hearing since bringing up the "QB mobility" subject. There obviously has not been a mobile QB like Cam to win a superbowl yet, but that's because these guys are just now entering league...These guys like Cunningham, Vick, etc. They were all brought in to be groomed as pass first guys (I can't speak to Cunningham on that, never watched him), but it is completely different now, and will continue to be. The defenses now are extremely vulnerable with the new rules, and running out of the spread is going to become more and more effective (as we are seeing with QB's running the read option, Russell Wilson, Kaep, Griffin), these guys are going to be the ones winning championships in future years. All these guys can run and throw. You mention guys like Differ and Manning, they will still have a chance in the next few years. But very soon, the league will no longer have guys like them around. The streak of guys like that winning SB's will be ending soon.
Again, I didn't see too much wrong with his game, I guess I'll have to look back at some of the tape, maybe you can tell me which games you are particularly talking about? The games against OU and Bama were the ones I watched most intently. I think you can find flaws in every player though if you analyze too much. And yeah, TAMU was loaded last year, but they will be loaded again this year, he probably has/going to have more talent to work with than Luck or Cam had, certainly more than RG3, but he's also playing better competition, that is also worth noting.
