IOP

DUDE, I hate you to because I want one like that. Originally Posted by theotherguy1

I only find a companion like that about once every 10-15 years. They are worth waiting and saving up for!


Cheers!

I only find a companion like that about once every 10-15 years. They are worth waiting and saving up for!


Cheers! Originally Posted by Anonymous01

That frequency sounds about right in my case also. They are not a common occurance--the lady has to be open to such an arrangement, the man has to want and comprehend such an arangement, and the interests/chemistry has to be mutual.

This topic arises periodically, here and on every similar board I have seen. And all the boards have their versions of W.E. Coyote, the guys who either have not opened their eyes to real reactions from women, or tend to see women who are not interested in real interactions with men. Either way they assume that since it hasn't happened to them, it isn't real. Like the Flat Earthers out there.

You can always tell them by the "if they really enjoyed being with you, they wouldn't take your money" BS.

No, if we were seriously dating, then I would expect there would be no exchange of money. But passion, friendship, and caring certainly exist outside of marriage or committed dating--just for some reason some guys (and some ladies) do not acknowledge it can happen.

I have been with ladies where the IOP was clearly forced. I have been with some where I truly am not sure. But I have been with a few where I know with certainty it is real. No, I am not ever going to suggest to her that I cannot pay, and even when one of my very special friends offers a home cooked birthday meal and convinces me to stay the night at her place I know I have no obligation to pay, but I find a way to do so (and she has stopped making a fuss about it now).

I truly don't know why some guys have such a difficult time understanding the reality of human nature--some people actually enjoy being with people they like. Is it insecurity? Too much self-focus? I don't know, but don't let those posters get to you--it can sometimes feel like trying to explain quantum mechanics to an art appreciation major.

The interesting thing about this is that the term implies the passion is illegitimate. I personally can tell the difference. Sometimes providers fake it, sometimes they don't... And sometimes they don't fake the fact that really don't enjoy the session.



Depends on both the girl and guy. But remember, the provider is being compensated to entertain you. It's then her job to make sure you enjoy yourself. Anyone who is fair, honest, and takes pride in their work can very well do a good job and ensure their client is satisfied for their payment. That's no different than any other profession. Now whether the girl really enjoys it or not is another story. In the retail and customer service industry people fake smiles and use friendly voices all the time to keep people happy and business following. Sometimes a natural reaction displaying the way they really feel, and sometimes not.


I'll be the first person to say I've dealt with providers who have faked it in the past. But I'll also say I've had experiences where the woman was just being herself and indulging in the interaction.

In the retail and customer service industry people fake smiles and use friendly voices all the time to keep people happy and business following.?????


My guess is that don't include the DMV? LOL

Insisde Out Penis

It a trans sexual that post operation=
Insisde Out Penis

IOP= faking it.


there are providers out there that don't fake it. Usually after you've developed a LTR with them, and they really know you and you REALLY know them.


That's the hobby Holy Grail! Originally Posted by Anonymous01

Ditto. I like that..holy grail!
I offer that.....hinestly there are a few guys (very few) that I will not really "get into during playtime"...but 95% of my playtimes are pasdione filled with no illusions.
At my age I crave and embrace passion in my playtimes....its not fun if its not "real",so why fake it...just let it flow naturally!

Ditto. I like that..holy grail!
I offer that... ...just let it flow naturally! Originally Posted by DallasRain

Dee is correct, and on my permanent dance card.
Those that have worked stage can see/feel IOP in a split second.
But yes, throw it anyway. Most guys are clueless.
But for those of us who get past that, yes just let emotions flow regardless.
OMG letting your emotional shields down? Yup, if you trust the date otherwise, why not. That's how long running fun works.

I'd just like to say that this thread has become much more interesting and mature since I blocked the butt-heads.


Thanks to all who have replied and understand that human emotion is a two-way street - if you let it!


Cheers!


Anon.

OH btw--after some pondering...I realize that I dont really consider it passion..I consider it more of a "fire inside"....