Encounter: Arisa @ KFest: Did I get baited and switched or are guys that bad at guessing ages?

Yes, Bamboo. Exactly like that.

I had choices in terms of who I wanted to see. The other girl available that day (named Emily), didn't have any reviews on her (at least not on ECCIE). I would have chosen Emily if I had seen an accurate review on Arisa.

I don't mind TOFTT if no one has reviewed a particular girl. But what good is a review to the community if the details are wrong. And I don't mean, "I'm-a-bad-judge-of-age" wrong, I mean, "The-review-says-27-and-this-woman-is-47" wrong.

I'm not going to kid myself and ask why hobbyists/providers would lie about ages. But I also know there are a lot of hobbyists on this board who would be thrilled to see a woman like Arisa KNOWING that she's in her 40s.

The good news for me is that I still had a good session with Arisa. My experience could have been a lot worse, and I'm glad it wasn't. Originally Posted by J'Fukka

Here we are with the age thing again, I dont even consider it. I focus on her service and the session. If people get hung up over that and in this case it was not an issue lets focus on well he checked this box instead of that one. The main reason some folks here do not review is they can not stand the heat when the gal I am looking at looks one way and they see another. I do not have that vision nor does anyone else so go and see them and do your own review and I will follow and pick it apart because thats what we do.

If you want in the pool, jump in!! Its easy to pick apart everything or every review. Thats what Trolls do.

Thanks for your comments J'Fukka and your opinions. Very nice review of a very nice lady.

Yes, Bamboo. Exactly like that.

I had choices in terms of who I wanted to see. The other girl available that day (named Emily), didn't have any reviews on her (at least not on ECCIE). I would have chosen Emily if I had seen an accurate review on Arisa.

I don't mind TOFTT if no one has reviewed a particular girl. But what good is a review to the community if the details are wrong. And I don't mean, "I'm-a-bad-judge-of-age" wrong, I mean, "The-review-says-27-and-this-woman-is-47" wrong.

I'm not going to kid myself and ask why hobbyists/providers would lie about ages. But I also know there are a lot of hobbyists on this board who would be thrilled to see a woman like Arisa KNOWING that she's in her 40s.

The good news for me is that I still had a good session with Arisa. My experience could have been a lot worse, and I'm glad it wasn't. Originally Posted by J'Fukka

Yeah... I agree with you it’s those small details, which really aren’t small at all to you, me and others regarding age, weight and other physical attributes we deem important when reading a review. Stuff like that where promoters embellish to draw a hobbyist in just like the highly photoshopped pics of the lady that are 20 years old or more. It all contributes to disappointment because those things DO MATTER to a paying hobbyist relying on reviews for honest information.

Again, as I said before: “Just like any reviews for any product or service you begin to notice a pattern of posters who can be easily identified as biased promoters. You just have to ignore those as if they don’t exist - their opinions don’t matter.” In other words treat them like a ghost.

But glad you had an ok time otherwise. Totally understand though why you wouldn’t repeat.

IT DOES MATTER GHOST!!!!!!!!! I TRIED TO TELL YOU!!!!! now you got proof more people want accurate accounts. not bs lies to try to drum up business. it only hurts the girl. that is unless you dont think enough of the girl to be truthful. i can only imagine the confusion on a girls face when she doesnt know why the customer is upset when he first meets her. and then you brush it off like its no big deal but ive been telling you it is. then you just say that people are trolls because they complain. serious question. are you a pimp? yes or no. because if you are, you are not good at it. this is why i do research before i meet a girl.

IT DOES MATTER GHOST!!!!!!!!! I TRIED TO TELL YOU!!!!! now you got proof more people want accurate accounts. not bs lies to try to drum up business. it only hurts the girl. that is unless you dont think enough of the girl to be truthful. i can only imagine the confusion on a girls face when she doesnt know why the customer is upset when he first meets her. and then you brush it off like its no big deal but ive been telling you it is. then you just say that people are trolls because they complain. serious question. are you a pimp? yes or no. because if you are, you are not good at it. this is why i do research before i meet a girl. Originally Posted by B.Wayne

Look Troll, go somewhere else to stalk them. Do not read any of my reviews and you will be just fine. Do your research, make your own decision and move on. This is your last get out of jail free card.

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2846287

I think the best approach here is to add these promoters to your ignore list. I have many in mine including Ghost. You can still see that they post something, but it says "This message is hidden because ... is on your ignore list." I think its quite easy to identify who is a real unpaid contributor (JFukka) and the ones who are not.

Click on the username of the promoter you want to ignore and their profile will pop up. Right under the red upload image button you will see a drop down "User Lists" where you can add them to ignore.

I have been on this board a long time and even the board this one took the place of. This promoter culture and their posts ruin the experience and purpose imo.

I think the best approach here is to add these promoters to your ignore list. I have many in mine including Ghost. You can still see that they post something, but it says "This message is hidden because ... is on your ignore list." I think its quite easy to identify who is a real unpaid contributor (JFukka) and the ones who are not.

Click on the username of the promoter you want to ignore and their profile will pop up. Right under the red upload image button you will see a drop down "User Lists" where you can add them to ignore.

I have been on this board a long time and even the board this one took the place of. This promoter culture and their posts ruin the experience and purpose imo. Originally Posted by packeye

Be careful there Packeye you're making too much sense and that might confuse some of these guys.

I agree with y'all here that this false age deflation BS needs to stop. I understand if someone occasionally gets an age wrong by 5 years, or even close to 10 years if we're really stretching it. But definitely no more than that. I also get that some have problem guessing age of Asian girls, but being intimately close to Asians for years and decades and you still have a pattern of presenting false age gaps by 10+ years, sometimes 20+, you're the problem.

I know I don't have this problem. I always give my best guessed ages along with all other physical traits to share with all my brothers here. When I'm wrong, I apologize and not double down on excuses and negativity.

I appreciate all reviews, even including from promoters given that they provide useful information. We all pay for service with our hard-earned money and money doesn't grow on trees. Just give us the right age, or your real best guess, and nobody has a problem. Let's make false ages disappear from this board. Thanks.

But does she look like in the photo? If yes, then age doesn't matter

But does she look like in the photo? If yes, then age doesn't matter Originally Posted by Bruce01

Bruce, just curious. Do you look the same as you did 10 years ago? Serious question.
I know I don’t.

Do you look the same as you did 10 years ago? Originally Posted by Silentbob2

I don't either but people age differently. I would still book the girl if she looks like the photo. It's totally unacceptable that a granny with lots of wrinkle shows up if I book a young girl.

I don't either but people age differently. I would still book the girl if she looks like the photo. It's totally unacceptable that a granny with lots of wrinkle shows up if I book a young girl. Originally Posted by Bruce01

Very true! People do age differently. I promise you, you will not find a “granny” when the door opens. Well, unless you schedule with seven when/if she comes back. Just kidding Ghostrider.
As the great ghostrider said once, or twice or 100 times, I forget. Just take a leap of faith young grasshopper!!

I know the older Jessica (from the AMPs) was amazing in service even though she was older.
Originally Posted by HappyJoe

Exactly right. Read below...

IT DOES MATTER GHOST!!!!!!!!! I TRIED TO TELL YOU!!!!! now you got proof more people want accurate accounts. Originally Posted by B.Wayne

You were not around then (at least you were not posting), but I posted Jessica's age once, after a slew of reviews from Guys who stated she was as much as 28 years younger than she was. Not joking. You read it right. 28 years.

I was instantly pilloried, guys were telling me I was going to kill Jessica's business with my honesty. I didn't, of course. Everyone knew she was a great Provider, and good-looking to boot. But the age thing just drove a wedge. I suspect that incident of my posting led to some of the bullshit lies vadc made up about me, including the tale of my getting AS busted. vadc is very tight with Jessica, as his postings boasted.

Anyway, Spa girl ages have been a sore point for many, either embellished or truthful. Depends where you sit, and what you stand to gain, I suppose.

WHAT!!!???!!?? How dare you call me a troll. I ain’t a troll You penis breath You!!! I thought we were friends man!!! This isn’t how you treat your friends. I swear man if you rip on me like 20 or 30 more times,.... I’m outta here.

Look Troll, go somewhere else to stalk them. Do not read any of my reviews and you will be just fine. Do your research, make your own decision and move on. This is your last get out of jail free card.

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2846287 Originally Posted by Ghostrider

WHAT!!!???!!?? How dare you call me a troll. I ain’t a troll You penis breath You!!! I thought we were friends man!!! This isn’t how you treat your friends. I swear man if you rip on me like 20 or 30 more times,.... I’m outta here. Originally Posted by B.Wayne

Hahaha!! Dude!! Baseketball is one of my favorite movies!!! Great psych out!! Lol

biased promoters

“Biased promoters” is too diplomatic, even euphemistic. The expression is “paid advertisers.” The promoters aren’t writing reviews at all! They are simply advertisements. No more truthful than propaganda. My method for dealing with it is to not go to studios that have the need for these advertisers. If they’re good studios, why offer these marketers free blowjobs and cash to promote their business?

It’s deceitful and dishonest. Makes one wonder: Why do the mods allow this to continue? They obviously are aware of it. Are they in on it?

As to the age question: We are being deceived. No promoter can be trusted with accurate info on this or any other subject.