Has this special ops video been posted yet?

What about TTH? He loves Obama, and will vote for him, even though it may mean higher taxes. I mean, he's as dumb as a box of rocks, but at least he has the integrity to vote his conscience, even if he's wrong.

. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Actually , another take would be that TTH knows that a stronger, better educated middle class is good for him in the long run. You think he wants to retire in France because they are a bunch of dumbasses? You think he would even entertain the idea if our own country was not being over run by your kind?

Why would you want to take away the free speech rights of a former Navy Seal? Isn't that what he was fighting for? I think he's earned his right to say pretty much what he wants. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Nobody said anything about taking away his right to frree speech.

You missed the point.

Her point was that their Honor Code is not to go around thumping their chest like, "Hey, I'm a Navy Seal, vote for Mitt."

It cheapens the Seals brand to enter politics in that way. IMHO

When they enter the political arena, they are just like any other citizrn. No more , no less.

So don't think everyone is like you. We're not. And I would think most military families would vote in favor of whoever they thought would keep the peace, not start stupid wars. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

That is why Mitt is agreeing with the President in the last debate. He would erode his built in military vote if he continued that hawkish BS he did in the primary.

Fuck, he just should of let Obama speak the whole time and at the end said, "I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message!"

See Mitt was debating in his best interest and voters vote in their best interest.

You ever heard of the invisible hand you stupid SOB? Atgue with the author of that theory and not me you phony patriot.

The "invisible hand" is an economic theory, not political, and it works best in a free society. You are a moron, WDF. If you were as smart as you think you are, Stephen Hawking would be reading your books. He's not. And nobody else buys your bullshit, either.

What about the people voting for Ron Paul and Gary Johnson? Neither of them are promising anything to anybody, except freedom? No giveaways, you work for what you earn and get to keep it. Simple.

But you don't understand half of your posts. You read some big words in books you can't comprehend, and then try to use them, and fuck it all up.

We're not all like you. Thanks be to God, we're not all like you.

Nobody said anything about taking away his right to frree speech.

You missed the point.

Her point was that their Honor Code is not to go around thumping their chest like, "Hey, I'm a Navy Seal, vote for Mitt."

It cheapens the Seals brand to enter politics in that way. IMHO

When they enter the political arena, they are just like any other citizrn. No more , no less. Originally Posted by WTF

Yes, that is exactly what I meant. I've heard the rants of other military and retired military say pretty much the same thing.

They're free to rant, he's free to speak. Ain't it wonderful? At least for a little longer, anyway.

Institutional waste dumbass. Originally Posted by icuminpeace

Institutions dont vote.

They're free to rant, he's free to speak. Ain't it wonderful? At least for a little longer, anyway. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Yep, free speech is a wonderful thing. No argument there. The thing is I wasn't challenging free speech. I was simply saying that I think if you are in special operations it's best to keep your mouth shut about what you do or did.

I don't recall him mentioning anything he did. He simply has an opinion, and the right to speak that opinion. What you think might be better is also an opinion. You got to share yours, he got to share his. I'd suggest WDF tell him his opinion in person. I'd like to see that.

Everything is beautiful!

“‘I can see him [Odumbo] now talking about how he [Odumbo] killed bin Laden.’

We had seen it before when he [Odumbo] took credit for the Captain Phillips rescue. Although we applauded the decision making in this case, there was no doubt in anybody’s mind that he [Odumbo] would take all the political credit for this too” (193, Owens).

“Of course, the raid is now being used in a political wrestling match for the White House. The mission was never about that for the twenty-four men who climbed on board the helicopters that night. Politics are for the Washington, D.C., policy makers who safely watched the action on a video monitor from thousands of miles away” (298, Owens).

Owen, Mark. No Easy Day: The Firsthand Account of the Mission That Killed Osama Bin Laden : The Autobiography of a Navy SEAL. Dutton: New York, 2012. Pp. xvi, 316.

The "invisible hand" is an economic theory, not political, and it works best in a free society. . Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You forget The Theory of Moral Sentiments, where Smith first introduced the invisible hand.


However, Smith rejected the idea that Man was capable of forming moral judgements beyond a limited sphere of activity, again centered around his own self-interest:

The administration of the great system of the universe ... the care of the universal happiness of all rational and sensible beings, is the business of God and not of man. To man is allotted a much humbler department, but one much more suitable to the weakness of his powers, and to the narrowness of his comprehension: the care of his own happiness, of that of his family, his friends, his country.... But though we are ... endowed with a very strong desire of those ends, it has been entrusted to the slow and uncertain determinations of our reason to find out the proper means of bringing them about. Nature has directed us to the greater part of these by original and immediate instincts. Hunger, thirst, the passion which unites the two sexes, and the dread of pain, prompt us to apply those means for their own sakes, and without any consideration of their tendency to those beneficent ends which the great Director of nature intended to produce by them.

It was in the TMS that Smith first referred to the "invisible hand" to describe the apparent benefits to society of people behaving in their own interests. Smith writes (6th ed. p. 350

We're not all like you. Thanks be to God, we're not all like you. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Yes thank God we are not all alike but we are not all that different either. Only idiots think they are some special human, immune to human nature.

I'd suggest WDF tell him his opinion in person. I'd like to see that.

Everything is beautiful! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Like a Seal is going to kick WTF's butt? I doubt they are that hot headed and would do something that stupid. After all WTF would only be exercising his right to free speech.

I'd suggest WDF tell him his opinion in person. I'd like to see that.

Everything is beautiful! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I'd do it in a heart beat. Unlike you, I'm not scared to speak my mind. What do you think he would do? Shoot me? I get along with a wide variety of folks that I do not always agree with but biting my tongue has never been one of my strong suits.

I don't recall him mentioning anything he did. He simply has an opinion, and the right to speak that opinion. ! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

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He used military imagery as his backdrop. That seems deceptive. He is a former Seal. What is he doing now? Use that as his backdrop. He is being used as a stool IMHO. We keep our military and Civilian lives separate in this country for a reason. I should not have to explain to you why.

You seem like the millions who give to much deference to the military from some deep feeling of guilt for not having served. I have nothing but respect for the military but I do not put it on a pedestal. They do some BS crap, like this ad, I speak my piece and let the chips fall where they may.

Like a Seal is going to kick WTF's butt? I doubt they are that hot headed and would do something that stupid. After all WTF would only be exercising his right to free speech. Originally Posted by Ansley

Well he could kick my ass but who wants to go to jail for kicking my ass?

COG likes to scream about freedom but then wants military people to intimidate American citizens into shutting up when they do not agree with COG worldview.

Old man is more confused than a bastard child on Papi day

You forget The Theory of Moral Sentiments, where Smith first introduced the invisible hand.


However, Smith rejected the idea that Man was capable of forming moral judgements beyond a limited sphere of activity, again centered around his own self-interest:

The administration of the great system of the universe ... the care of the universal happiness of all rational and sensible beings, is the business of God and not of man. To man is allotted a much humbler department, but one much more suitable to the weakness of his powers, and to the narrowness of his comprehension: the care of his own happiness, of that of his family, his friends, his country.... But though we are ... endowed with a very strong desire of those ends, it has been entrusted to the slow and uncertain determinations of our reason to find out the proper means of bringing them about. Nature has directed us to the greater part of these by original and immediate instincts. Hunger, thirst, the passion which unites the two sexes, and the dread of pain, prompt us to apply those means for their own sakes, and without any consideration of their tendency to those beneficent ends which the great Director of nature intended to produce by them.

It was in the TMS that Smith first referred to the "invisible hand" to describe the apparent benefits to society of people behaving in their own interests. Smith writes (6th ed. p. 350 Originally Posted by WTF

You just proved my point, again, WDF. Don't read Adam Smith until you have a basic understanding of what he is about. He's way over your head. And don't think you fooled me by cutting and pasting from Wikipedia. I know how you work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Th...ral_Sentiments

You copied that verbatim from Wiki, LOL! And claimed it for your own! You are an idiot! Trying to sound like you knew what you were talking about by cutting and pasting from Wikipedia!

You've never read the book! You "googled" "invisible hand" and found this!

Next time, don't cut and paste without including the section the last sentence of your cut referred to. When you posted "Smith writes (6th ed. p. 350" while leaving out the last parenthesis, I knew it was a cut and paste job.

You've been exposed, buffoon!