Big difference between a Hobbyist (my type of guy) and an Impulsivist (bp quickie type)

I either get the donation or you can leave. There will be none of this "after the session" bullshit. That's a quick way to get scammed. And hagglers get put on a no see list by me. No exceptions. It's rude and disrespectful. Originally Posted by Liliana

One review, no face pictures and you're already pissed off. Dayum.... where do I sign up?

I either get the donation or you can leave. There will be none of this "after the session" bullshit. That's a quick way to get scammed. And hagglers get put on a no see list by me. No exceptions. It's rude and disrespectful. Originally Posted by Liliana

Rude and disrespectful would be handing over the donation before the action and watching the hooktard count it before she jumps in the bed.

I bet you do that don't you??

At first impressions, people tend to think I'm arrogant. Then they soon learn I'm a humble passionate spoiled nomadic gorgeous genius with a luxury life addiction... but hey.. its better than having a drug addiction and as long as my LuXXX men treat me well and spoil me, they get treated so well.

Originally Posted by Bella Jesime

One review, no face pictures and you're already pissed off. Dayum.... where do I sign up? Originally Posted by Still Looking

I don't think she's pissed off, I think she has a good head on her shoulders about her business.

Hagglers are a pain. They are from the beginning, and they will continue to be. The majority of decent girls will not entertain any further emails once someone starts to haggle. We set our rates where they are for a reason, we are as busy as we need to be. Those who try to haggle waste our time, and especially in the case of people we've never met before, insult our business that we have worked very hard to build.

Judging from my experience on this website as not even close to a HDH though, I'm sure she's already gotten more than her fair share of ridiculous emails. If I'd found this site sooner, I'd probably have figured out how to deal with time wasters and assholes a lot sooner too. Knowing what you are worth, and knowing that you don't have to put up with everything for everyone, is a good quality for a girl to have in this industry.

I don't think she's pissed off, I think she has a good head on her shoulders about her business.

Hagglers are a pain. They are from the beginning, and they will continue to be. The majority of decent girls will not entertain any further emails once someone starts to haggle. We set our rates where they are for a reason, we are as busy as we need to be. Those who try to haggle waste our time, and especially in the case of people we've never met before, insult our business that we have worked very hard to build.

Judging from my experience on this website as not even close to a HDH though, I'm sure she's already gotten more than her fair share of ridiculous emails. If I'd found this site sooner, I'd probably have figured out how to deal with time wasters and assholes a lot sooner too. Knowing what you are worth, and knowing that you don't have to put up with everything for everyone, is a good quality for a girl to have in this industry. Originally Posted by Charlotte Breeze

You make an excellent point!

Now this part is specifically for the upper echelon men.

If a true courtesan hosted at a motel 6... the service, not the services (did you mean location?), will still depict her as such. Its the level of connection. The effort the provider gives to show you she is there for you. Its the body and the amount of time (or money) she has put into her body for your exquisite indulgence.(I like this part a lot! )

I love enjoying wealthy men... Should that really be a crime? I love to travel, I only drink champagne or wine because I like it.. ( I only travel when its all expenses covered lol but I really need to travel so I can experience the hobby outside of Dallas market, as its al I have ever known. I hear there are more opportunities up north) But I have managed to get majority of traveling men from NY and Chicago even from other countries who fly back and forth to become my regulars.
Originally Posted by Bella Jesime

I do not know about your showcase and stuff but I definitely understand your reasoning and frustrations.

You have to work very hard to get where you want to be. I for example started off on the bottom. my first reviews say $125 for hh.

a year and a half later I do not offer HH sessions, I have spent thusands of dollars on enhancing my boobies. I work out everyday if I can make it to the gym, I did not start working ut until I became an escort because my body means a lot to me, and even more now that it is what generally makes a guy make his pick when selecting an escort. I eat healthy, I make sure everything is perfect for my incall appointments. I set the mood, I play the role. I care about my clients and that they leave happy.

There are plenty gentlemen whom will tell you, you are not worth it. I have had a guy try to continue to harass me about my rates and that was when I was 300/hr!

300/ hr is like not high at all, yet some regions act as though you are pulling teeth! lol

there are providers for every type of client, but i have heard your same complaints from many of the top providers. seems many are going to a no review policy and don't want to deal with the career hobbyist types. too much blackmailing for good reviews, haggling, self entitlement. once upon a time newbies were the kiss of death, and now it seems the top girls prefer them because they not only grade easier in reviews, they tend to be so nervous the provider can wallk all over them. not that you should or everyone does, but it happens. i would have to believe that a guy screened through real name and work info would be less likely to get stupid on a girl. what tupe of recourse does a provider have if she only gets a guy' handle and refs? blacklist him? BFD. he can change his handle an start all over again. Originally Posted by ronjeremy

+1 indeed

In my time of the hobby I have never had a problem with a client while he was in my presence. ( I did get one NO review which I believe is a conspiracy somewhere along the line from a group of folks who hate my guts because they guy got off and complimented my appearance several times but whatever).

I don't like career hobbyist because I don't like the way they grade you in reviews like a piece of meat, some use a number system and everything, I am not talking about TER either... I have thankfully never attracted the serial hobbyist and it seems it has saved me a lot of headaches.

If I have learned anything it is that trying to be a star in "Hobbyland" is not a good idea.... If it happens to you great, but don't pursue it. It will only result in people readily to cut you down.

The only people worth proving something to are the ones who are paying you. They are the only ones whom will know the truth anyway, when they come over and see a perfectly groomed provider with a true passion and enthusiasm for her skills , a vibe which you can only experience "in person".

Hard work always pays off, no matter what.

300/ hr is like not high at all, yet some regions act as though you are pulling teeth! lol

It's not so much the perceived high end price as much as the value of the lady asking the price. I imagine that if you go into Dallas asking $300 and you don't look like a Playboy Centerspread, you might as well hang it up!

It's not so much the perceived high end price as much as the value of the lady asking the price. I imagine that if you go into Dallas asking $300 and you don't look like a Playboy Centerspread, you might as well hang it up! Originally Posted by John Bull

Point.

Did not know Dallas was such a bargain though.

I don't like career hobbyist because I don't like the way they grade you in reviews like a piece of meat, some use a number system and everything, I am not talking about TER either... I have thankfully never attracted the serial hobbyist and it seems it has saved me a lot of headaches.

If I have learned anything it is that trying to be a star in "Hobbyland" is not a good idea.... If it happens to you great, but don't pursue it. It will only result in people readily to cut you down.

The only people worth proving something to are the ones who are paying you. They are the only ones whom will know the truth anyway, when they come over and see a perfectly groomed provider with a true passion and enthusiasm for her skills , a vibe which you can only experience "in person".

Hard work always pays off, no matter what. Originally Posted by Mya Michelle

Mya I agree with this on so many points!!

Serial hobbyists are the ones who make it feel very clinical, because they can't let the situation go and just have fun. We all know where the pieces are and why they ended up there, but we don't like to feel like it's a service either. Back when I was with an agency, we got a lot of those, and I can't even count how many times my body and my performance was critiqued right there in front of my face. And don't tell them no, because there will be consequences...

Ick. If they only realized how much less fun they had because of it, I'd like to say I think they'd change their attitude.

I know some people walk all over newbies, and I think it's sad. Here's someone without any of the baggage, there to have just an organic and fun experience, and some girl has to waste that opportunity for herself and everyone else by being manipulative or taking advantage of him. We are all responsible for ourselves, but the fact that a few go out of their way to make sure these gentlemen have a bad time and end up jaded really gets me. Heaven forbid anyone take advantage of the opportunity to have fun with no strings attached!

I personally really like newbies. They always manage to slow it down, and kinda make it feel like a first date. I love that they don't know what to expect, because then we can just do what we like as it comes naturally, without having to adhere to some script that only he's aware of (something frustrating about serial hobbyists). I guess I always feel like they left genuinely happy, not just impressed, if that makes sense? And that always makes me feel really good, I like to think that I've made a real difference in their day. I'm just not sure why some girls don't hold on to that as long as they can.

I am so glad there is a thread designed for the Quality over quantity type.

As a seasoned upscale elite provider I have always been badgered about rates and my reply has always been, "Maybe I'm not your girl honey." And I probably wanted to say some meaner things but I don't. Truthfully men should know whats out of their budget. Its not fun when your waiting for someone to donate and they look like their about to sit in a dentist chair. You are supposed to leave your worries at the door like I do. Care free, no obligations after the white envelope is donated. So why prolong your bliss, the minute you walk in its only respectful to be time conscious. Most real upscale companions are low volume so its not like their in a rush, so dont waste your own time... lol Im cleaning you up and helping you put your pants up and your jacket, wallet, cell phone and shoes will be in my hand once you zip up your pants we're on the way to the door. Its like someone ate McDonalds all the time, saves their money, then walks in Ruth Chris and ask for a dollar menu.

ok I'm done going off....

Now this part is specifically for the upper echelon men.

If a true courtesan hosted at a motel 6... the service, not the services, will still depict her as such. Its the level of connection. The effort the provider gives to show you she is there for you. Its the body and the amount of time (or money) she has put into her body for your exquisite indulgence. Now I understand there are a few phonies running around, easy spotted... if you are a true VIP hobbyist you'll check reviews first. Then her articulation and vocabulary should second the reviews. Manners and dress and lingerie attire third.

I love enjoying wealthy men... Should that really be a crime? I love to travel, I only drink champagne or wine because I like it.. not because I'm trying to keep up with the Kardashians or reenact a hip hop video, its just the way I was raised I'm a Cali girl and its just my personal preference.

At first impressions, people tend to think I'm arrogant. Then they soon learn I'm a humble passionate spoiled nomadic gorgeous genius with a luxury life addiction... but hey.. its better than having a drug addiction and as long as my LuXXX men treat me well and spoil me, they get treated so well.

Originally Posted by Bella Jesime

You get what you pay for! A lot of guys prowling BP arelooking for that "diamond in the rough", that can be exploited. Then they start to piss and moan, when the lady wakes up and figures out her "talent & looks" are worth much more than the "cheapies" are willing to fork over.

I saw a fantastic lady in Toronto, that had a steep "entry fee", after several visits, her tribute came down for me, but remained high on her site, to weed out the "unwanted".

Charge what you will Sweet-Heart! If I was closer to Atlanta, I'd be there in a heartbeat!

It's not so much the perceived high end price as much as the value of the lady asking the price. I imagine that if you go into Dallas asking $300 and you don't look like a Playboy Centerspread, you might as well hang it up! Originally Posted by John Bull

LMMFAO!!!

And that's exactly why I keep my booty in the gym!!! Can't afford to not keep this body tight!
I don't blame men for wanting a nice slim athletic toned woman if he is going to pay top dollar. And men shouldn't blame a woman who obviously cares about her body and does things to make it better like EXCERSISE fake boobs, liposuction, or a nose job. I mean people love to scream out FAKE FAKE FAKE but this business is about your looks and personality... in a Miss America level lol. you tink your favorite celebs are perfectbut they got way more plastic surgery and starve themselves for that red carpet and you still think they are OK folks... right

Looking good is FIRST and FOREMOST in this industry, I don't see why taking any means necessary should be frowned upon we are doing it for your satisfaction (people have talked so much shit about me since I got my boobs). And so many gys keep lying saying Oh you didn't need to get fake boobs. But yet my sales are UP UP UP making records every month... what changed my BUSTY factor that's what! I made a great investment!

Men are seeking out a fantasy not a trip to Kroger ... haha okay let me stop, but hey some BBw's charge big bucks too... not in texas but in other places like NY where it looks like even back page starts at 300/hr LMAO

This stuff makes me laugh... I think about how guys say women are over priced then I think about all the famous people from athletes to actors to singers to politicians who are just rolling in the dough and they don't even have to suck anyones cock.... well I heard some of them do haha but that's another subject

so no one wants to stay at the same pay rate forever. men contact me and are mad I went up on my rates... no youre not grandfathered because I only seen you 2x MAX lmao ... u aint really help pay for these titties or my gym membership for the year haha.

I don't see yall charging these athletes up all they have to do is throw a ball and take a punch and they get to become millionaires but we have to be most intimate with strangers and cant charge 500 bucks.... tsk tsk, whats up with that?

LMMFAO!!!

And that's exactly why I keep my booty in the gym!!! Can't afford to not keep this body tight!
I don't blame men for wanting a nice slim athletic toned woman if he is going to pay top dollar. And men shouldn't blame a woman who obviously cares about her body and does things to make it better like EXCERSISE fake boobs, liposuction, or a nose job. I mean people love to scream out FAKE FAKE FAKE but this business is about your looks and personality... in a Miss America level lol. you tink your favorite celebs are perfectbut they got way more plastic surgery and starve themselves for that red carpet and you still think they are OK folks... right Originally Posted by Mya Michelle

I agree with you here......this is fucks for bucks and physical attraction is what sparks my initial interest. If a lady doesn't make the effort to take care of herself then i'm not interested.

This stuff makes me laugh... I think about how guys say women are over priced then I think about all the famous people from athletes to actors to singers to politicians who are just rolling in the dough and they don't even have to suck anyones cock.... well I heard some of them do haha but that's another subject Originally Posted by Mya Michelle

Or do they?

Big difference between a Hobbyist (my type of guy) and an Impulsivist (bp quickie type) Originally Posted by Bella Jesime

Not really...that can be the same exact dude on any given day

I don't see yall charging these athletes up all they have to do is throw a ball and take a punch and they get to become millionaires but we have to be most intimate with strangers and cant charge 500 bucks.... tsk tsk, whats up with that?
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Well said my dear.
I get that " if it was what you used to charge"
Well, I am not saying that I am any better of a provider than
anyone. I simply know my worth, and refuse to settle for less. I prefer extended dates, traveling and the finer things in life. If I were a hobbyist, I'd much rather prefer quality over quantity. I understand there are providers with revolving doors, I'm am NOT one.
I am noting the best part if the country to be a call girl, therefore, at times I do have to place an ad on backpage, much to my dismay. However, I don't charge any less. One thing in addition to me believing that I am worth it, is that it keeps the less desirables away.
I know by me stating such on a forum such as this, that it opens me
up for much criticism. I am perfectly fine with that, I don't need others to validate my worth. My bank account does that for me.

Not really...that can be the same exact dude on any given day Originally Posted by DickEmDown

This.... when the dick rises you gotta do something about it and sometimes plan A is not an option.