Those darn drones.....

Who else was killed?

Who else was killed? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

And THAT is the really hilarious part.

When Bush ordered the drone missiles fired, the liberals wailed and marched and held protests to stop "the killing of innocent women and children bystanders".

But when Obama ordered the drone missiles fired, the liberals suddenly forgot that there were ANY women or children or any other bystanders around since they didn't matter.

Funny how a liberals view of an action depends on the party of the guy ordering it.

Nobody was happy about that, you stupid lowlife. We just don't worship the Omuslim. Like you and your kind. Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

If you three fuckheads are not in favor of eliminating our enemies then you must be for them. Fuck you.

If you three fuckheads are not in favor of eliminating our enemies then you must be for them. Fuck you. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

You're funny...

I look at the bigger picture...things like this.

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1979 article by Vernon Jarrett about Khalid al-Mansour
1979 article by Vernon Jarrett about Khalid al-Mansour
The Vernon Jarrett syndicated column of Nov. 6, 1979, that appeared in the St. Petersburg Evening Independent. It originally appeared in the Chicago Tribune on Nov. 2. This image was pieced together from screen shots of the St. Petersburg Independent page available for viewing in the Google Newspaper Archive. Jarrett was the father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, President Obama's closest adviser.
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Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:02 pm | Updated: 8:22 pm, Fri Sep 28, 2012.
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Searching old newspapers is one of my favorite pastimes, and I have tried to use them many times to shed light on current events — or to inform readers about how the past is prologue to our very interesting present-day quandaries.
Recently, I came across a syndicated column from November 1979 that seemed to point 30 years into the future toward an obscure campaign issue that arose briefly in the 2008 presidential campaign.
Though by no means definitive, it provides an interesting insight, at least, into how Chicago politics intersected with the black power movement and Middle Eastern money at a certain point in time. Whether it has any greater relevance to the 2012 presidential campaign, I will allow the reader to decide. In order to accomplish that, I will also take the unusual step of providing footnotes and the end of this column so that each of you can do the investigative work for yourself.
The column itself had appeared in the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Evening Independent of Nov. 6, but it was the work of a veteran newspaperman who at the time was working for the prestigious Chicago Tribune and whose work was syndicated nationally. (1)
So far as I know, this 1979 column has not previously been brought to light, but it certainly should be because it broke some very interesting news about the “rumored billions of dollars the oil-rich Arab nations are supposed to unload on American black leaders and minority institutions.” The columnist quoted a black San Francisco lawyer who said, “It’s not just a rumor. Aid will come from some of the Arab states.”
Well, if anyone would know, it would have been this lawyer — Donald Warden, who had helped defend OPEC in an antitrust suit that year and had developed significant ties with the Saudi royal family since becoming a Muslim and taking the name Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour.
Al-Mansour told Jarrett that he had presented the “proposed special aid program to OPEC Secretary-General Rene Ortiz” in September 1979, and that “the first indications of Arab help to American blacks may be announced in December.” Maybe so, but I looked high and wide in newspapers in 1979 and 1980 for any other stories about this aid package funded by OPEC and never found it verified.
You would think that a program to spend “$20 million per year for 10 years to aid 10,000 minority students each year, including blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, Asians and native Americans” would be referred to somewhere other than one obscure 1979 column, but I haven’t found any other word of it.
Maybe the funding materialized, maybe it didn’t, but what’s particularly noteworthy is that this black Islamic lawyer who “for several years [had] urged the rich Arab kingdoms to cultivate stronger ties to America’s blacks by supporting black businesses and black colleges and giving financial help to disadvantaged students” was also the same lawyer who allegedly helped arrange for the entrance of Barack Obama into Harvard Law School in 1988.
That tale had surfaced in 2008 when Barack Obama was a candidate for president and one of the leading black politicians in the country — Percy Sutton of New York — told an interviewer on a Manhattan TV news show that he had been introduced to Obama “by a friend who was raising money for him. The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas. He is the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men. He told me about Obama.” (2)
This peculiar revelation engendered a small hubbub in 2008, but was quickly dismissed by the Obama campaign as the ditherings of a senile old man. I don’t believe President Obama himself ever denied the story personally, and no one has explained how Sutton came up with this elaborate story about Khalid al-Mansour if it had no basis in fact, and in any case al-Mansour no longer denies it. (3)
Back in 2008, while actually supporting Hillary Clinton in the New York primary, Percy Sutton was interviewed on TV and said that he thought Barack Obama was nonetheless quite impressive. He also revealed that he had first heard about Obama 20 years previously in a letter where al-Mansour wrote, “there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends up there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?”
Sutton concluded in the interview, “I wrote a letter of support of him to my friends at Harvard, saying to them I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly.”
Until now, there really has been no context within which to understand the Sutton story or to buttress it as a reliable account other than the reputation of Sutton himself as one of the top leaders of the black community in Manhattan — himself a noted attorney, businessman and politician. But the new discovery of the 1979 column that established Khalid al-Mansour’s interest in creating a fund to give “financial help to disadvantaged students” does provide a clue that he might indeed — along with his patron, Arab Prince Alwaleed bin Talal — have taken an interest in the “genius” Barack Obama.
It also might be considered more than coincidence that the author of that 1979 newspaper column was from Chicago, where Barack Obama settled in 1986 a few years after his stint at Columbia University. It is certainly surprising that the author of that column was none other than Vernon Jarrett, the future (and later former) father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, who ultimately became the consigliere of the Obama White House.
It is also noteworthy that Vernon Jarrett was one of the best friends and a colleague of Frank Marshall Davis, the former Chicago journalist and lifelong communist who moved to Hawaii in the late 1940s and years later befriended Stanley and Madelyn Dunham and their daughter Stanley Ann, the mother of Barack Obama. (4)
And to anyone who has the modicum of a spark of curiosity, it is surely intriguing that Frank Davis took an active role in the rearing of young Barack from the age of 10 until he turned 18 and left Hawaii for his first year of college at Occidental College in Los Angeles. (5)
It is also at least suggestive that Obama began that college education as a member of the highly international student body of Occidental College in 1979, the same year when Vernon Jarrett was touting the college aid program being funded by OPEC and possibly Prince Alwaleed. The fact that President Obama has studiously avoided releasing records of his college years is suggestive also, but has no evidentiary value in the present discussion. (6)
The nature of Vernon Jarrett’s relationship to Khalid al-Mansour is likewise uncertain, but it is very likely they had known each other as leaders of the black civil-rights movement for many years. Under his previous name of Donald Warden, al-Mansour had founded the African American Association in the Bay Area in the early 1960s. He had also helped inspire the Black Panther Party through his association with black-power leaders such as Huey Newton and Bobby Seale. Seale, of course, had a famous association with Chicago later, when he was part of the Chicago Eight charged with conspiracy and inciting to riot at the Democratic National Convention in 1968. (7)
In any case, it doesn’t matter if Vernon Jarrett and Khalid al-Mansour had a personal relationship or not. For some reason, al-Mansour had used Jarrett as the messenger to get out the word about his efforts to funnel Arab oil money to black students and minority colleges at about the same time that Barack Obama began his college career. That doesn’t mean either Jarrett or al-Mansour knew Obama at that time, but eight years later when Obama was a rising star in Chicago, a friend of Bill Ayers and Valerie Jarrett, it is much more likely that he did indeed have the assistance of very important people in his meteoric rise. The words of Percy Sutton about what al-Mansour told him regarding Obama certainly have the ring of truth:
“His introduction was there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends back there... Would you please write a letter in support of him? (That’s before Obama decided to run.) ... and he interjected the advice that Obama had passed the requirements, had taken and passed the requirements necessary to get into Harvard and become president of the Law Review. That’s before he ever ran for anything. And I wrote a letter in support of him to my friends at Harvard, saying to them that I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly...” (2)
What possible significance could all this have? We may never know, but Vernon Jarrett, back in 1979, thought that OPEC’s intention to fund black and minority education would have huge political ramifications. As Jarrett wrote:
“The question of financial aid from the Arabs could raise a few extremely interesting questions both inside and outside the black community. If such contributions are large and sustained, the money angle may become secondary to the sociology and politics of such an occurrence.” (1)
He was, of course, right.
As Jarrett suggests, any black institutions and presumably individuals who became beholden to Arab money might be expected to continue the trend of American “new black advocacy for a homeland for the Palestinians” and presumably for other Islamic and Arabic interests in the Middle East. For that reason, if for no other, the question of how President Obama’s college education was funded is of considerably more than academic interest. Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

The irony of living in a country with presummed innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonal dought. What evedence Obama is beholden to the Arabs is there? The work of 3 or 4 people who meant nothing "in the bigger picture" until they could be used against Obama.

You're going to tell me you read the 1979 Op-ed? There is no proof the money ($20,000,000 per year, for 10 years, for 10,000 minority students including Blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, Asians, and Native Americans, a whopping $2000 per student) was ever provided or yjay Obama was givin a penny. This Op-Ed asked questions, provided few facts, and relied heavily on the word of a world class supporter and promoter of ....himself. The author constantly uses the term "Arab" to describe OPEC in which 7 of 14 nations are considered to be Arab states.

My favorite passage I cropped out and have pasted. I think it demonstrates the average American can live with the notion just fine.

If you three fuckheads are not in favor of eliminating our enemies then you must be for them. Fuck you. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

So it's ok for the Obama administration to eliminate our enemies with drone strikes, regardless of colateral damage, even if they are American citizens, guaranteed due process of law under our constitution, but not ok for the Bush administration to subject foreign terrorists to enhanced interrogation procedures to try to save American lives. Libturd logic (rank hypocrisy) at it's finest!

Join the ranks of whiners .Birds of a feather.

The irony of living in a country with presummed innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonal dought. What evedence Obama is beholden to the Arabs is there? The work of 3 or 4 people who meant nothing "in the bigger picture" until they could be used against Obama.

You're going to tell me you read the 1979 Op-ed? There is no proof the money ($20,000,000 per year, for 10 years, for 10,000 minority students including Blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, Asians, and Native Americans, a whopping $2000 per student) was ever provided or yjay Obama was givin a penny. This Op-Ed asked questions, provided few facts, and relied heavily on the word of a world class supporter and promoter of ....himself. The author constantly uses the term "Arab" to describe OPEC in which 7 of 14 nations are considered to be Arab states.

My favorite passage I cropped out and have pasted. I think it demonstrates the average American can live with the notion just fine. Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

Yea but still got you thinking..Obama's handlers did a great job keeping every thing cleaned up. They just missed this one little article.

You know and I know. The average American when it come to stuff like this, they are clueless. The average Rightie knows he hates Obama but if you ask him why?..he has no clue.. same with the Lefties..They got to love Obama because he gives them Hope and Change....both groups are low-info.

Talk to some of these 20-30 year old kids with their smart phones in hand...tell them what is going on, your point of view...then stop...with in 10 seconds they go right back to the smart phone texting, playing their little fucking games...they did not hear a word you said..hi-jack over

Why are you thanking Obama.

Geez...he's the last one on the long list to thank.

Join the ranks of whiners .Birds of a feather. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Who's whining? We're all glad we killed some muzzies, just pointing out how ridiculous it is to think that it will stop or hinder terrorism. They announced the same day, the number 2 guy took over right where they left off.

Raping the middle class financially...thanks Oprezyhiphop

Good thing that Obama didn't put together the drone program or we would have Obamacare in the air. Thanks George Bush and Bill Clinton for giving Obama a weapon that even he can't screw up. Now if we could only get some intell rather than killing them all.

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QUOTE=IIFFOFRDB;1054428327]Yea but still got you thinking..Obama's handlers did a great job keeping every thing cleaned up. They just missed this one little article.
The people who can't do a website but can wipe the internet clean of all links? Is the health care website a diversion to cover up their true abilities at concealing all the dirt on Obama?

You know and I know. The average American when it come to stuff like this, they are clueless. The average Rightie knows he hates Obama but if you ask him why?..he has no clue.. same with the Lefties..They got to love Obama because he gives them Hope and Change....both groups are low-info. It's a bell curve. Like life. I won't argue that many are clueless either. I will argue that this particular story has no merit and is hardly on a level with the average American not knowing the 3 branches of government or their representative in Congress.

Talk to some of these 20-30 year old kids with their smart phones in hand...tell them what is going on, your point of view...then stop...with in 10 seconds they go right back to the smart phone texting, playing their little fucking games...they did not hear a word you said..hi-jack over I won't argue with this except to say it's not up to you and me to decide what they should listen to or what is worthy of their time. Our parents and their parents before them said exactly the same thing.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it got me to thinking. And thinking rules out a story like this. Ignoring it doesn't rule it out. Reading it, considering the sources, the motivations, the verification of the available facts (in this case the glaring absence of facts), confirmation by other sources, etc, rule it out.
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The above is the attachment from my earlier post. It comes from the 1979 Op-ed

Raping the middle class financially...thanks Oprezyhiphop Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

dumber than a post.

dumber than a post. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

At least I know where Clarksville is...LOL..