How the lefties here continue to bash Trump but have nothing. Not one has started a thread about candidates they support to beat Trump, and most importantly, how and why. Maybe because they know it’s a lost cause!So based on the OP, we have a thread meant to spark discussion of the actual candidates of the lefties and not discuss Trump, but is immediately re-directed to a thread about Trump.
KAG!!!!!!!!!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Originally Posted by bambino
So based on the OP, we have a thread meant to spark discussion of the actual candidates of the lefties and not discuss Trump, but is immediately re-directed to a thread about Trump.Exactly. They got nothing. But Speedy has his polls!!!!!
Oh how he lives in their heads.
40+ percent approval after the media drubbing Trump has taken plus a witch hunt...I would think anyone else to be polling 20 % or less.I said many times in 2016 that I could consider Webb, but he saw what a sham the process was. He bailed quickly.
As for the polls, here's the dirty secret, we have no more than a generic democrat candidate and generic candidates always poll higher that the real thing. People tend to imagine that they are being asked to choose between a known (Trump) and the perfect opposition candidate. Wait till they are asked to cast their vote for some nitwit that six months ago was considered a joke to them. With 20+ democrats seeking the nomination there is something for everyone. You may think Biden is stable but what if you have to vote for Warren?
As for Trump's initial announcement, I was not a supporter. I did not know if this was a sales tactic for something or a publicity stunt. After he made some policy statements did I think Trump might be serious did I move him up to my third choice. Showing no fear of JEB or Hillary moved him up to number two. After a couple of debates and the personal touch I personally saw on the campaign trail moved him to the top spot.
When it came to the general and Hillary, there was absolutely no choice. Trump in 2016. Jim Webb would have the best choice for democrats but the dems fucked up and nominated (or she stole) the serpent. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
He was aware about those states in 2016. And he worked his ass off in those states. Hillary put her faith in the POLLS and did nothing. Originally Posted by bambinoHillary campaigned a lot in North Carolina and Florida. Hillary did not campaign in Penn, Michigan or Wisconsin. These are three blue states that voted for Obama twice. Losing those three states cost her 40 plus electoral college votes and the election. Uncle Joe or whoever the democratic nominee is has a very good chance to flip those three states back to blue and knock out Trump.
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so, its anybody but Trump!Exactly, they still can't bring a rational discussion of any of their candidates. It simply devolves into Trump vs the Dems and as you say anybody but Trump.
Got it! Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
He was aware about those states in 2016. And he worked his ass off in those states. Hillary put her faith in the POLLS and did nothing. You see Speedy, sometimes there no substitute for good old fashioned hustle. Here’s a few more facts. Trumps campaign will be far more organized than his first. He has the full support of the Republican Party. Hillary had the Clinton and Obama machine Behind her. Along with the MSM. She outspent Trump 2/1. All the polls had her in a landslide. And she still lost!!!!!!! Here’s another fact Speedy, Trump raised 24.8 million in 24hrs after is official Florida announcement. That’s a fucking record. There’s a lot of enthusiasm with Trump. Money talks and bullshit polls walk. I’ll offer you the same bet that I offered YR and Iva Biggen. I’ll take Trump over the Democrats field. Loser leaves the forum for 3 months. Good luck! Originally Posted by bambinoNo one had Clinton winning in a landslide. The RealClearPolitics summary of polls showed Clinton winning the popular vote by an average of 3.3%. She won by 2.1%. They had Clinton with 203 electoral votes, Trump with 164. 171 toss-ups. Obviously Trump took the lion's share of the toss-up states.
40+ percent approval after the media drubbing Trump has taken plus a witch hunt...I would think anyone else to be polling 20 % or less.Actually the polls recently done by Quinnipiac, Fox News, and the internal Republican poll matched each of the major Democratic contenders against Trump. Not a "generic" candidate. To be honest I'm somewhat skeptical of a poll that has Biden beating Trump by 4%, outside the margin of error, in the state of Texas. Trump won Texas by 9% in 2016 and I think the Democratic candidate will be closer than that, probably in the 5% or less range, but extremely doubtful the Democratic candidate will carry the state.
As for the polls, here's the dirty secret, we have no more than a generic democrat candidate and generic candidates always poll higher that the real thing. People tend to imagine that they are being asked to choose between a known (Trump) and the perfect opposition candidate. Wait till they are asked to cast their vote for some nitwit that six months ago was considered a joke to them. With 20+ democrats seeking the nomination there is something for everyone. You may think Biden is stable but what if you have to vote for Warren?
As for Trump's initial announcement, I was not a supporter. I did not know if this was a sales tactic for something or a publicity stunt. After he made some policy statements did I think Trump might be serious did I move him up to my third choice. Showing no fear of JEB or Hillary moved him up to number two. After a couple of debates and the personal touch I personally saw on the campaign trail moved him to the top spot.
When it came to the general and Hillary, there was absolutely no choice. Trump in 2016. Jim Webb would have the best choice for democrats but the dems fucked up and nominated (or she stole) the serpent. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
Hillary campaigned a lot in North Carolina and Florida. Hillary did not campaign in Penn, Michigan or Wisconsin. These are three blue states that voted for Obama twice. Losing those three states cost her 40 plus electoral college votes and the election. Uncle Joe or whoever the democratic nominee is has a very good chance to flip those three states back to blue and knock out Trump.Which is what I've been saying all along and Trump supporters choose not to address. Trump made so much money after his Orlando speech. The crowds at Trump's rallies are huge. Trump has had so many successes.
Which is what I've been saying all along and Trump supporters choose not to address. Trump made so much money after his Orlando speech. The crowds at Trump's rallies are huge. Trump has had so many successes.
And how has that impacted the voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin? I don't know. Neither do Trump supporters on this forum because they have failed to answer the rather simple question as to why Trump will win those states again in 2020. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX