The "health of a mother" exception is a ruse for killing born alive babies. It is a ruse for most of the late term abortions performed in America.
Originally Posted by Whirlaway
You are an idiot if you think this is the case except in some exceptions. I'm sure it happens in some cases, but basically you are saying a lot of OBGYNs are frauds, liars and criminals.
There is no moral defense for the killing of a born alive baby after a failed abortion.....
Originally Posted by Whirlaway
So most humans throughout all of history were immoral, but you are moral, right? Most human societies have practiced abortion within their cultural constructs (which doesn't make it right) and many have also practiced infanticide too for that matter. Spartans, admired by many,
if a baby seemed weak, they exposed it on a hillside or took it away to become a slave (helot). The Bible has one of the earliest known abortion recipes in
Numbers 5:12-28 You really can't even play the cultural relativism card here (if you even can spell it or know what it is) since Catholicism hasn't really made up its mind for sure (despite having that direct and infallible pipeline to the Almighty through the Pope).
Religions have rarely agreed with one another on when "life" starts or for that matter even agreed within themselves over time. In the West over the last two millenia, the most prevalent view was that of the Aristotelian concept of "delayed ensoulment." Simply put, a human fetus was essentially vegetable, then animal, then human (thus our concept of trimesters) and soul could not live in a body that was not human. Abortion in the first two trimesters, or at least before until the fetus was "quick" was not considered murder.
The early Christian Church had many views on abortion as on other aspects of theology, but abortion was not considered immoral after 380 C.E. in the then Catholic church, to be outlawed briefly in the 13th Century, then again in 1588, but only for three years, until again in 1869 the Pope opined (inspired by God who had obviously changed his mind again - after all, he works in mysterious ways) that the soul is present at conception.
Unless you want a state religion and theocracy, then these sorts of moral decisions are best left to people not the state (within certain limits of course). Hopefully one day soon medical science will find a way for men to become pregnant and all the stupid laws will go away.