?? For the guys...what's up with the review bashing??

lol @bubba Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

Reminds me of when I would have to seperate my son and daughter into seperate rooms when they would not get along. Gezzzzzz

Is this a business community or a social network? I'm really f'ing confused. Originally Posted by absorbed

The answer is Yes

Many reviews have helped me find the right providers. So i am just returning the favor by writing [honest and fair] ones. It's not all giving or all receiving.

Of course, one has to read between the lines and do some checking. Otherwise, you will have to take the review as grain of salt.

Overall, i think the benefits outweigh the negatives.

As for the OP of this thread, As a Premium Access member that does his homework during selection, this is what I perceived from your review along with your posting this thread bringing it into attention.

Ok so I have been in this business for about 5 years now. So you imagine that I have a nice collection of regular guys taht like to play. So i figure why not start asking them to write review? Well I asked at least TWO of my clients and their response was unbelievable.... These guys are actually a lil uneasy about writing reviews because of the MEN on this site, not the women!! I asked him what did he mean and he said that once he tried to write a review on a lady and as soon as it went up, all the guys started bashing his review telling him that he was probably her 'pimp' or a 'friend' of hers trying to boost her business Originally Posted by brooke_banks69

Ok in this review this is obvious the way I read it
1) his join date Nov 2, 2010 & the review date 11/3/2010
2) his handle & statement under it (reads more like a ad for you) ie.. SEX&CANDY w/"And there she was", and yours "Verified Chocolate Drop!!"
3) number of posts (all in the same review, so theres nothing to really verify his existents as a hobbyist)
(So little to no credibility at this point)
And with this post of yours stating that he said he has posted before (no evidents of this, unless posted as a guest) also brings up a question as to why he waited till your review to at least register onto the site (this also shows the possibility of him having another handle and doesn't want to associate it with this review)
(So more credibility lost)
As for the review itself
Activities: DATY, BBBJ, MISH, CG, RCG, Doggy, HJ to finish, COB
(use of Acronyms Suggests he's been around, but 1 stands out from the rest and after reading the ROS that's what remains afterwords being he lost even more credibility in the ROS being they didn't in some way match)
Session Length: 1 hr
Fee: 160
Hair Length and Color: Black hair, shoulder length
Age: 26
Smoking Status: I Couldn't Tell
Ethnic Background: Black/African
Physical Description: Brooke is petite in build, her pics are accurate, they actually dont do her justice. Small chest maybe 32a, but her ass is nice and round. measurements might be 32a-22-34, not sure. weighs maybe 110 lbs, 5'3 in height.
So this review would only help you with non-Premium Access members until more reviews are posted for you, so only really your reviewer gained from this review as he now apparently has gained Premium Access with it, hopefully with that access he will learn what's needed to have a credible review by seeing others ROS
And now a new major Downside for this is with ECCIE's new linking reviews they STAND OUT and will stay visible longer, for the reviewed & the reviewer thus making it a uphill battle for both, adding a consequence to the equation. So Reviews that appear good for the most part with recommendation can still be damaging, and although some posts on it may appear bashing but really are questioning the reviewers credibility.


　

The reviews are for us, not you. They give US information so we can decide if we want to see someone. Do a consistant, great job and the reviews will reflect that and will help your business. Do a poor or inconsistant job and the reviews will relect that as well.
Its not so much review bashing as it calling to task those who may not be writing reviews with the intent to help us, the client. When the first post from someone is a glowing review of a new provider and both joined within a few days of each other, the credability of that poster is very small. When the same "guy" only posts about one provider, over and over again, it makes us pause and wonder about the poster.
And its not just good reviews that get questioned. If a provider has a well established history of outstanding service and a reviewer just rips them a apart, we question that as well.
It is an inperfect system, but we do police our own. We have assholes amongst us for sure. We also have providers who are breaking the rules by gaining access to private info they are not suppose to see.
Right now, I thnk we are seeing a correction in the review process from almost always perfect reviews to the other side of seeing more inperfect reviews. If more guys will grow a pair and post honest, fair and balanced reviews, this will settle down and everyone will be happier. Originally Posted by Bubba3452

+1

Ok so I have been in this business for about 5 years now. So you imagine that I have a nice collection of regular guys taht like to play. So i figure why not start asking them to write review? Well I asked at least TWO of my clients and their response was unbelievable.... These guys are actually a lil uneasy about writing reviews because of the MEN on this site, not the women!!

I asked him what did he mean and he said that once he tried to write a review on a lady and as soon as it went up, all the guys started bashing his review telling him that he was probably her 'pimp' or a 'friend' of hers trying to boost her business....well i thought that is what a good review was supposed to do?! Give you good business right?? So basically i think that you guys should lighten up a lil when it comes to these reviews because if you make a guy so uncomfortable that he doesnt want to even post a review then how is it going to benefit anyone?? You miss out on seeing a great provider and I miss out on good business..... Originally Posted by brooke_banks69

The majority of my clients are members of this board but don't post reviews, nor post period. I have had the same comments from them. They don't want to put out a "pornographic" writing of their experience with the lady, and get blasted when they write a review that has just basic facts, and his interpretation of the time he spent with her. Some of the men I have talked to were flat out blasted years ago when reviewing other providers. They just stopped posting reviews altogether.

In addition I actually have gentlemen who fear that LE will use posts against him, or the lady he is writing about.

I have very few reviews written on me to date, and actually I think I am starting to prefer it that way. In the long run I appreciate the men who continue to keep coming back and seeing me, and are not concerned with reviews, or feeling compelled to post them. Reviews can be good and bad, and are mostly a double edged sword for the ladies.

IMHO, the fewer rules the better it is for an open and free forum.Oh. Point taken, but does that include a provider saying "I believe he is HIV positive" in the Ladies area if she doesn't like his review? Should there be rules governing stuff like that?

I's not perfect but everybody gets to say what they think and let the readers make their own judgments."I think he has genital warts". She can say that and "let the readers make their own judgements??

Yes, sometimes you write an honest review and may get challenged.An honest review of your time with her is fine. What if you say she is 45 and in reality she might be only 34? Should there be rules on that?
Originally Posted by cabletex7

I guess, as you can figure out, that it's a sore spot with me because I've had reviews that contained blatant lies in them.

BTW, I love your avatar!!!

Its not about 'growing a pair' and writing an honest review, Bubba. And I dont give a discount to get reviews. I never have to worry about reviews because I know I give good service, and no a review cant be looked at as just for 'guys' because you guys arent the only people who benefit from the review....Some of you guys are a bunch of lil babies because you complain and complain "oh you dont have reviews" but then when someone actually takes time out and write one, you go on and on about how the review is fake!? WTF?! honestly that makes no sense to me at all. Why ask for something and then when you get it act like a person is lying?? Anywho...I just wanted to state my piece because most of these guys arent writing reviews because of men who spend all their spare time on the internet trying to 'discredit' a review...not because of the female...

obviously i cannot comment on all the guys that brooke is talking about.

but, i'm getting kinda tired of posts w/ overly broad and generic statements w/out any kind of supporting "facts", like "well everybody..." or "most guys..." or "most girls..." or "most reviews...", etc......

so, to get some hard facts, and in the interest of increasing and spreading the knowledge buried deep in our part of this sub-culture...

i just browsed the first three pages of indy reviews and herewith present this summary of those 60 reviews [as of ~1:00am nov 6, 2010]. [who really knows if the reviews, recommendations and/or follow-up are "true" or "false" or somewhere in between].

interestingly, there are only TWO NO recommendations in this set.

brooke, are you commenting about the review of you?? [see bolded line]

so, folks, the next time you make a general claim, please back it up w/ specific facts and not hearsay or speculation. Or just state your opinion, not a general opinion of others. OK??
...["like he's going to get anyone to listen to him or take his recommendation"
... the two old codgers in the balcony on sesame street.
see http://www.popartuk.com/tv/the-muppe...100-poster.asp and read their description, if you want a bit of muppets' trivia.]


and then go have some fun!!!
LAGNAF!!!!!

[ok, now i am really getting of my soapbox for tonite.]


[note: i'm not considering a follow-up w/ just a photo of the woman a follow-up as there's not text or comment, just a photo].

Woman - Recommendation Yes or No - any flames or bashing in the follow-ups?
tina de'mour - No - no flames or bashing
Kaylee Kennedy - Yes - no flames or bashing
Katie Foxx - Yes - no flames or bashing
Marabella - Yes - no flames or bashing
Sydney4U - Yes - no flames or bashing

Justice4fun - Yes - no followups
Fort Worth Angellica - Yes - no flames or bashing, but questioning of a follow-up poster's intent
Diamond hottiemeade31 - Yes - no followups
Justice4fun - Yes - no flames or bashing
Cindy Jones - Yes - no flames or bashing

Marabella Sweets - Yes - no flames or bashing
SexyJazzy - Yes - no followups
Jemma Dallas - Yes - no followups
Isabella Mercy - Yes - no followups
Jemma - Yes - no flames or bashing, tho comments about her body and performance

December Love - Yes - no followups
682Jewel - Yes - no flames or bashing, tho comments about her performance
Lovelybritney - Yes - no flames or bashing
Rachel Moore - Yes - no followups
Jemma - Yes - no flames or bashing, tho comments about her performance

Ft Worth Taylor - Yes - El Roy stating the review might be suspicious [2nd occurrence of this so far]
LovingKayla - Yes - no followups
Amy A - Yes - no flames or bashing
Candace and Kaci - Yes - no flames or bashing
Heather Winston - Yes - no followups

ITZEL - Yes - no followups
Angel_Therapist - Yes - no followups
KATIE FOXX - Yes - no flames or bashing
Kaylee Kennedy - Yes - no flames or bashing
Natalia Cruz - Yes - no flames or bashing; most follow-ups so far, and a very attractive woman to boot!!!

Cassia - Yes - no flames or bashing; just request to use review format next time
Jessie - Yes - no flames or bashing; bit of question about reviewer's identification of the woman vs photos
Mz Kinzie - Yes - no flames or bashing
classy Kimberly - Yes - no flames or bashing; questioning of a follow-up posters terminology and thoughts
Ivy Chick - Yes - no flames or bashing

Tara Evans - Yes - no followups
Brooke Banks - Yes - no flames or bashing; questioning of reviewer's summary and ROS
Autumn - Yes - no flames or bashing
amillia winter - Yes - no followups
Ft Worth Taylor - Yes - no followups

Preston O'Malley - Yes - no flames or bashing
Allison Belle - Yes - no flames or bashing; question about her performance, which was cleared up.
Rylee Presley and Allison Belle - Yes - no flames or bashing; just a request to not bump threads over 30 days old
Jodie - Yes - no flames or bashing
Bentley Stars - Yes - no flames or bashing

Christy - Yes - no followups
Kayla Knox - Yes - no followups
Fallyn - Yes - no flames or bashing
Itzel Romero - Yes - no flames or bashing; one follow-up relate how he was too big for her to enjoy it
Sugar Sugar - Yes - bickering between reviewer and a follow-up poster [seems the "feud" might have been around for a while]

Isabella Mercy - Yes - no followups
Tara Evans - Yes - no followups
Selena - Yes - no followups
Pet-My-Kitty - Yes - no flames or bashing
Sexxy Jazzy - Yes - no followups

Preston O'Malley - Yes - no flames or bashing
Sweetlust - Yes - no followups
Plano/Allen Girl - No - no flames or bashing
Natalie Summers - Yes - no flames or bashing
Princess Laeya - Yes - no followups

Sweetheart, When I stated that my friend posted before, I wasnt referring to sex&candy. As i said before, he posted before and was afraid to post for me so how could this be the same guy?? As for your comment RCOOP, the guy that posted the review on me saw me more than once, but for you people to intentionally try to pick apart someones review is just sad...if you think what was said about me was false then why dont you pony up the money and come see for yourself?! And that goes for EVERYBODY who are convinced that its a fake review. Really i dont have anything to prove to anyone on this site, I just simply posted my question because when I have asked for reviews, the response I got from several guys where all the same-didnt want to do it because they didnt want other men bashing them...i could go on and on about this stupid stuff but it would be pointless since some people think that they are always right when clearly they arent...but hey, to each person, their own opinion...including me, and my opinion is that this review bs is just what it is, a bunch of bs...

brooke,

what review are you referring to? so that those of us who care to research can do so, pls state the reviewer's name or a link to the review.

the reason i performed my research and posted the results was not that i was bored, had nothing to do at midnite, am OCD or a geeky nerd (well, ok, i was not falling asleep last nite and figured "hey, self, do some eccie research." :^)

i did the research to show that, at least over those past 60 reviews, there has been a very small amount of negative bashing or flaming of reviewers [2 of 60 = 3.333%].

so, when you stated "when I have asked for reviews, the response I got from several guys where all the same-didnt want to do it because they didnt want other men bashing them...", i really wonder why they said that. and i am not even going to speculate as to why they did.

the scientifically collected facts, although limited, dont show an overwhelming pattern of bashing, much less a majority of reviews being bashed, much much less a minority of reviews.

i'm not saying i'm right, they're right, you're right, nobody's right, just laying out the facts so that others can see them, instead of using some generic "oh, it's hot as hell in there!" reason. which to me is kinda wimping out.


but, after seeing those facts, i think that we might agree - reports of review bashing and bs in those reviews is just what it is, a bunch of bs.

i'm out - to go enjoy an afternoon and evening and morning of playtime.
you all have a great weekend.

but, i'm getting kinda tired of posts w/ overly broad and generic statements w/out any kind of supporting "facts", like "well everybody..." or "most guys..." or "most girls..." or "most reviews...", etc...... Originally Posted by pmdelites

Me, too. I don't care much for exageration, sensationalizing, and lack of backup for statements.

Thanks for some extensive and interesting research.

Torito

Me, too. I don't care much for exaggeration, sensationalizing, and lack of backup for statements. Originally Posted by Torito

+1

Thanks for some extensive and interesting research. Originally Posted by Torito

+10 I mean .. I'm just impressed that you went through all the work.

I confess .. part of me enjoys the drama. It's a little like TV. When you've had enough, you can turn it off.

Its not about 'growing a pair' and writing an honest review, Bubba. And I dont give a discount to get reviews. I never have to worry about reviews because I know I give good service, and no a review cant be looked at as just for 'guys' because you guys arent the only people who benefit from the review....Some of you guys are a bunch of lil babies because you complain and complain "oh you dont have reviews" but then when someone actually takes time out and write one, you go on and on about how the review is fake!? WTF?! honestly that makes no sense to me at all. Why ask for something and then when you get it act like a person is lying?? Anywho...I just wanted to state my piece because most of these guys arent writing reviews because of men who spend all their spare time on the internet trying to 'discredit' a review...not because of the female... Originally Posted by brooke_banks69

I say one thing about not writing reviews ECCIE = ESCORT CLIENT COMMUNITY INFORMATION EXCHANGE, this is where we are right now, and this info helps everyone make safe choices, when used properly as it should!!

Sweetheart, When I stated that my friend posted before, I wasnt referring to sex&candy. As i said before, he posted before and was afraid to post for me so how could this be the same guy?? As for your comment RCOOP, the guy that posted the review on me saw me more than once, but for you people to intentionally try to pick apart someones review is just sad...if you think what was said about me was false then why dont you pony up the money and come see for yourself?! And that goes for EVERYBODY who are convinced that its a fake review. Really i dont have anything to prove to anyone on this site, I just simply posted my question because when I have asked for reviews, the response I got from several guys where all the same-didnt want to do it because they didnt want other men bashing them...i could go on and on about this stupid stuff but it would be pointless since some people think that they are always right when clearly they arent...but hey, to each person, their own opinion...including me, and my opinion is that this review bs is just what it is, a bunch of bs... Originally Posted by brooke_banks69

I commend you for admitting the review was BS, you gained some respect from me for that, and I hope the Mods take the appropriate action in that regard. But still just as you would want references for me and for everyone you see, I also require credible reviews on your part as to have some idea of what to expect when seeing you. FYI the reviews also help you to not have to state to everyone about your activities & donations available thus making things safer for you so they don't have to be discussed in any way.

if you think what was said about me was false then why dont you pony up the money and come see for yourself?!... Originally Posted by brooke_banks69

First of all the Little head is jumping up & down on you behalf( being you were first noticed in the WW and was on my wait and see list), But at this point the Big Head is in full control, so being you asked so graciously for me to pony up (which that is not a issue with me). So being before my research on you today began, you didn't exist before Oct. 26, 2010, but one of your reviewers shed more light on you, which is good. And being you publicly gave me the invite. I feel I must respond in the same manner publicly, so here's what I found: Two new reviews for you

pdaty
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=19645 Join date 2/14/10 - review date 2/14/10 ROS LACKING
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=20092 " - review date 2/15/10 ROS LACKING second review of her dated 9/10/10 much better
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=75265 - review date 7/18/10 ROS LACKING
so I can chalk this one as a review writing learning experience
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=123909 Of you Today EXCELLENT ROS pdaty (definitely added to my temptation) +1 for both
　
KRiggins
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=82659
Now I'm not saying this review looks fake ,but poorly written, his second review of her was better written and gained respect and others posting on it, so I also can chalk this one as a learning experience
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=123934 Of You Today Also a Very Good ROS KRiggins also I give +1

But I still have to consider these reviews in the manner of time of their showing (meaning they could be the result of this thread), But I will still give them merit

Just to be fair here's my first review
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=77313 I first had to learn where to put it
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=77315 I feel it also was LACKING in ROS but a good attempt was made, after finally seeing other's ROSs after gaining PA
Although I can't speak for your other reviewers but She also took my Hobbying Cherry which added extra nervousness to what you would normally have on a first meet
　

he said that once he tried to write a review on a lady and as soon as it went up, all the guys started bashing his review ..... Originally Posted by brooke_banks69

Although you state sex&candy is not the one, But looking at his second review posted (which was a NO recommendation) on a provider that has a pretty much proven record aside from the the reviews by eastboy7802 which I have to add say the same as sex&candy but a somewhat better written ROS, but the similarity of the reviews stands out. I will leave that at that and walk away.

Now as for your invite the Big Head's Jury is currently hung on this, so I have to decline at this time (which I realize I may lose any chance of a session with that decision), But I have to follow Big Head's safety precautions. So for now you will stay on my wait and see list, so in your regard, nothing is lost.

So I hope now you can grasp the benefits of having good honest reviews whether the recommendation is YES or NO, being not all good reviews are actually good & bad reviews can also be good (as this is a intimate hobby we practice and if the chemistry is not there bad reviews are the result sometimes), but it's up to the reader to decide that. You Also have to consider the length of said session as hygiene could also promote a bad review, (i.e. if it's a 30 min or less you have to wonder if proper hygiene is provided, and being if it's on the reviewers end I'm pretty sure he's not going to post in the review that he stunk!!)

Sorry for the long post, but to keep it in a positive note I felt it necessary, and hopefully others may learn from it.

Side Note ECCIE's review linking made this research very simple +10000000000000 for ECCIE

I don't drop my plans because I'm interested in a provider who has a bad review. Depends on who filed it. There are hobbyists I've come to trust. If they write a good review, I'm in regardless of what some of the drama kings write. Besides, Sugar's got one luscious looking ass. One bad review wouldn't stop me from wanting to hit that unless it was one of the reviewers I consistently read.

Brooke, I wouldn't worry too much. Overly critical and overly negative people on this board, as everywhere else, are pretty easy to spot.....and reasonable people let what these people say go in one ear and out the other.