Alec Baldwin and "Gun Safety" Vs "Gun control"

  • oeb11
  • 10-25-2021, 08:56 AM
Please regfer to my OP and my 2nd post:

Whether or not the legal system interacts with Mr. Baldwin to his detriment is beside the point.

Several of the main concepts of "gun safety" is that the person holding the firearm knows by their own direct inspection if the gun is loaded, and that they are responsible for whether or not it is discharged, and if it is, where the bullet goes. There are those who think that Mr. Baldwin is culpable on those grounds.

Other principles of "gun safety" make those around the firearm responsible for assuming that any firearm actually IS loaded and acting accordingly. In the case of the wounded director and the deceased cinematographer, this means arranging for the safety of the personal on-set by setting up the camera shot to avoid anyone being in the line of fire. It is plain that was not done.

Contrary to current usage in liberal circles, "Gun Safety" does not mean the regulation of firearms in public hands. "Gun Safety" means the responsible use and handling of firearms to ensure that no one is hurt. Originally Posted by ICU 812

ICU - well written, good sir
I suspect Baldwin - as a dyed in the wool DPST party anti-gun nut - had no clue as to even basic Weapons safety rules. Hence - pointing a weapon at another person.

Yet the liberal cultists will use this horror - to add fuel to their demands to ban all Legally held Weapons in America
and facilitate Their dearly beloved marxist revolution

( remember 95 and his Che' pics)

Ignorance - leads to fear - which causes hatred.
Classic foolish liberal cultist POV





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The 10 rules of firearm safety

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Treat every firearm as if it were loaded.
Whenever you pick up a firearm, open the action and check to see whether ammunition is present. Do not accept a firearm from another hunter unless the firearm is unloaded and the action is open.
Keep a firearm’s muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
It is your responsibility to always control the muzzle of your firearm and ensure it points in a safe direction. Follow this rule at ALL times, even if the firearm is unloaded or in a protective case. If you remember and obey this rule, you will not have to worry about hurting any other person or damaging property.
Be sure of your target, both in front of and beyond it.
Being a safe hunter includes making good decisions. Always identify the target and ensure it is both legal and ethical to shoot before your finger goes into the trigger guard and onto the trigger. When you hear something approaching you, take a deep breath and remain calm. Take care not to mistake another hunter for a game animal. Remember: once the trigger is pulled, you cannot call back that bullet. Always have a good backstop when shooting your firearm. Be careful of rocks and water; they can cause the bullet to ricochet, sending it in an unexpected direction. Also, never shoot toward the top of a hill.
Keep your finger off the trigger.
Safe hunters always protect the trigger. Your finger should be inside the trigger guard and on the trigger only after you have identified your target as well as what's in front of and beyond that target.
Check the barrel for obstructions.
When debris gets into a firearm’s barrel it’s referred to as an obstruction. An obstruction blocks the path of the bullet and can cause injury to you or to your firearm. If you suspect that your barrel has an obstruction, unload the firearm and clean the barrel with a cleaning jag.
Keep the action open.
When traveling by vehicle to or from your hunting spot, always keep the action open on your firearm. Also, make sure your firearm is unloaded and in a protective case. Keep the action open while walking to your stand or hunting location. Only when you are ready to start hunting should you load your firearm, engaging the mechanical safety until your target is sighted.
Only point the muzzle at something when you intend to shoot.
Never joke around with a firearm. Never use the scope on your firearm as binoculars and always maintain control over the direction that your firearm is pointing. Do not use the barrel of your firearm as a pointer for giving someone directions.
Unload your firearm before jumping, running or climbing.
NEVER jump over a ditch, or climb a tree or fence with a loaded firearm. When pulling a firearm toward you, never pull it by the muzzle end. Once you have finished climbing or crossing, inspect the firearm to ensure it is not damaged in any way before reloading.
Store firearms safely.
They should never be close to children or careless adults.
No drugs or alcohol.
Never consume alcohol before or while you handle a firearm. Avoid legal and illegal drugs that can alter your behavior and mental status; only use a firearm when you are in full control of your body.






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dilbert firestorm's Avatar
according to reports, baldwin was practicing shooting towards the camera.
  • oeb11
  • 10-26-2021, 05:46 AM
The 11th Rule of Weapon Safety:


11. Never hand a weapon to a Democrat.


Buck fiden
From my cold dead hands!
rexdutchman's Avatar
Everything's gonna be for the greater good for your health
tman1847's Avatar
Alex Baldwin typical Hollywood liberal asshole. Crying on National TV
"I didn't pull the trigger"

1. Did you pull the hammer back and drop it on a "live" round? YES
2. Did you point / aim at something, someone you didn't want to kill or destroy? YES
3. Did you check the gun to see it it was loaded? NO
4. Did you treat / handle the gun like it was loaded? NO
LexusLover's Avatar
In my memory, "gun control" has always referred to efforts to limit gun ownership or ban it outright.

The term "gun Safety" has always meant the safe handling of firearms to ensure that no-one is accidently injured

That is an accurate comparison of the two terms ....

... what the dumbass Liberals do is morph language and insert words in phrases and sentences in an attempt to paint their opposition as wrong...

"climate change" vs. "global warming" aka "Earth's temperature increasing"

One can make a long list of pretend phrases to justify their bullshit.
HedonistForever's Avatar
Some folks are mnissing the point:

If you pull the trigger, YOU are culpable.

Regardless of the legal technicalities that a clever lawyer may dig up . . .if you pulled the trigger, it is you are ultimately at fault.

That "someone" told you that the gun is not loaded is not a valid excuse. When handed a firearm it is your responsibility to determine if it is loaded.

Whether or not actor Alec Baldwin is charged is now an open question. Whatever the legal system decides, in the final analysis . . .it is his fault for not checking the pistol.
Thhis kind of thing is what happens when "Gun Safety" is confused with "Gun Control". Originally Posted by ICU 812

Which is exactly why Baldwin is saying "I never pulled the trigger". He is saying that he did cock the gun but never pulled the trigger so it's the guns fault, It must have misfired he is now saying. Somebody has been talking to a lawyer.
VitaMan's Avatar
Or spoke to Bill Clinton, who IS a lawyer. His gems:


"I smoked, but didn't inhale."


"It depends on what your definition of "is" is."


"I did not have relations with that woman."
the_real_Barleycorn's Avatar
Y'know... if the director of Twilight Zone could get off despite ALL the evidence and the fact that 2 children died... I really think you're barking up the wrong tree if you think anything is going to happen to Alec Baldwin. Originally Posted by Grace Preston
Different time and circumstance. Spielberg was on the rise and Baldwin is fading. Who knew who Vic Morrow was by then. Some actor... The beast must be fed and it takes victims. The 24 hour media must have content.
VitaMan's Avatar
Serious eyebags. Serious trouble.


Clay Media's Avatar
Alec Baldwin needs to do some more work. With Jimmy Kimmel,Kathy Griffin, etc
VitaMan's Avatar
We know what the Trump impersonator is saying about this situation.


We know what the real Trumpeter has said about the Trump impersonator in this situation.



What would the real Trumpeter be saying if he were in this situation ?
Alec Baldwin needs to do some more work. With Jimmy Kimmel,Kathy Griffin, etc Originally Posted by Clay Media
... He will... it's called the "No Apology Tour!"

Surely thinkin' that it might start over Houston-way.
Travis Scott is opening for him.

### Salty
the_real_Barleycorn's Avatar
He did, he killed a leading Iranian terrorist-general and he did it on purpose.
We know what the Trump impersonator is saying about this situation.


We know what the real Trumpeter has said about the Trump impersonator in this situation.



What would the real Trumpeter be saying if he were in this situation ? Originally Posted by VitaMan
... TRUMP? ... He'd say - "Yeah, I smoked her - but I didn't inhale."