Price

Jokes aside, I don't think I'm better than any other companion who charges less than me. Just as I don't think I'm worse than any companion who charges more than me. And any man who makes speculations about a woman's inherent value as a human or whether or not she deserves dignity based on what her rate is isn't someone I'd want to entertain.

What a companion chooses to charge is deeply personal and often correlates with what type of business model she chooses to work within. There is nothing wrong with not having a website or professional photos for example. There is nothing wrong with a provider choosing to host a guest in a 2-star motel/hotel. It's just one way of operating.

Personally, I would consider myself to be mid-range. And while I prefer 3 to 4.5-star accommodations, no time soon do I have any plans to book a room at a Ritz-Carlton, or St. Regis, or Mandarin Oriental. And while I like upscale designers, stacking my closet full of Louboutins is not a current goal of mine.

Different rate levels convey a sense of what amenities, wardrobe offerings, and other aspects of an overall experience a client might expect. If you're looking to pay a provider 140 or 160 per hour, there'll probably be some variations to what she can deliver in terms of the overall experience when compared to a provider who charges 250 or one who charges 500. Originally Posted by Lena Duvall

Lena. This response to your statement regarding a woman's inherent value and dignity will doubtless put me in the doghouse with most providers and hobbyists, but here I go... You do realize the purpose of this website is to connect those who sell sex with those who buy it. Whether we like to admit it or not all of us who use this site threw our sense of personal value and dignity into the same garbage cans in which we place the used condoms that are part of the trade once we began the buying and selling of the sexual favors you provide. I am no moralist, just a realist, and I realize that regardless of what more socially polite terms we may use when we refer to ourselves those of us on this site are whores or whore mongers, so save your attempt to couch your inflated rates in some kind of self serving moralistic terms. Just admit you are trying to get as much for that pussy as you can for as long as you can. After all, isn't that the American way?

Our market is still the cheapest or Austin or Dallas

The difference between you and I is that I do not at all think there is anything undignified about buying or selling sex. If you choose to continue deprecating the members of our community generally, including yourself, so be it.

My dignity does not metaphorically reside in the trash nor do I perceive the clients of sex workers to be undignified. We're clearly operating from a whole different system of ethics and perceptions about how the world works.

This response to your statement regarding a woman's inherent value and dignity will doubtless put me in the doghouse with most providers and hobbyists, but here I go... You do realize the purpose of this website is to connect those who sell sex with those who buy it. Whether we like to admit it or not all of us who use this site threw our sense of personal value and dignity into the same garbage cans in which we place the used condoms that are part of the trade once we began the buying and selling of the sexual favors you provide.

If like the OP, you agree that a GFE escort charging more than $200/hour, has "inflated" rates and is deserving of contempt, you should carry on and book with an escort that charges a rate you are wiling to pay. It's not that complicated.

What is totally hilarious though is when people try to wage campaigns which try to sway us whores to do xyz. As if a sex worker's own parameters for her own body don't mean anything at all. I do agree with you that it is my pussy, and I'll do with my pussy what I want. And my point is I respect any other sex worker's right to autonomy in determining what their rates will be.

I am no moralist, just a realist, and I realize that regardless of what more socially polite terms we may use when we refer to ourselves those of us on this site are whores or whore mongers, so save your attempt to couch your inflated rates in some kind of self serving moralistic terms.

Good morning, Lena. I totally agree that you and every provider out there has the "right", interesting choice of words, to charge what you want just as those of us buying your service has the choice to pay or not to pay your rate. I have the $$$ to pay these higher rates, but it has been my experience that pussy that you pay for is pretty much the same regardless of how much or how little you shell out for it, and the "experience" high end providers pride themselves in is so transient as to be virtually worthless. As for our differing views on the sex trade, If you chose to look at your business through rose colored glasses so be it. I simply find it laughable when you attempt to justify your rate structure, call it pussy pricing, by taking the moral high ground. In the end, Lena, we are what we are, and no amount of sugar coating will change that or make it taste any sweeter.

Carry on... it's more laughable to me that some men on the internet try really hard to enforce an arbitrary cap on what every sex worker should charge. Who knows? Maybe some of y'all will wake up tomorrow and decide $150 is the bar and every sex worker who has rates above that is charging inflated rates. And then next week it'll be $100...

The point that you're missing is that I agree that you don't have to pay anyone more than you want to. At the same time "inflated" as a low-key, snarky jab is just an opinion. It is subjective. There is nothing factual about the assertion that 250 or 300 per hour is too much. It is for some clients. For other clients it is perfect and the experience delivered by escorts who charge those rates is exactly what they are looking for. For other clients, 300 is on the lower end and they consistently book with escorts who charge more.

With you being so jaded and oddly resentful about your role in sex work, your perception is skewed and you are assuming that your opinions are facts and that you speak for everyone. Maybe my glasses are rose colored as you say... for the most part I am an optimist. But at least I can see clearly enough to know that my opinions will resonate with some, not all.

I see this crap all the time - people on a beer budget who want to drink champagne. Has this ever, ever worked for you? I didn't think so. Insanity is described as doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. These threads may be popular with the fan-boys, but not so much with the gals...

Find a girl that accepts what you want to pay, and stop bitching! Go to Moco if you have to. Fucking is so much more fun that bitching!

You do realize that you're self-screening, don't ya?

I see this crap all the time - people on a beer budget who want to drink champagne. Has this ever, ever worked for you? I didn't think so. Insanity is described as doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. These threads may be popular with the fan-boys, but not so much with the gals...

Find a girl that accepts what you want to pay, and stop bitching! Go to Moco if you have to. Fucking is so much more fun that bitching!

You do realize that you're self-screening, don't ya? Originally Posted by OldYeller

^^^^^^ A-FUCKIN MEN!!

I see this crap all the time - people on a beer budget who want to drink champagne. Has this ever, ever worked for you? I didn't think so. Insanity is described as doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. These threads may be popular with the fan-boys, but not so much with the gals...

Find a girl that accepts what you want to pay, and stop bitching! Go to Moco if you have to. Fucking is so much more fun that bitching!

You do realize that you're self-screening, don't ya? Originally Posted by OldYeller

I agree the complaining is not the right thing to do. Never is.

I just see girls affordable to me. No issues, and never been happier.

Question is however...

How many people drink champagne regularly or can afford to all the time? Or would you even want to? Most people do drink it occasionally because it's a luxury item. Not a necessity and I may have had the pleasure of drinking it twice in my entire life. If all the girls went to champagne pricing, I'm sure most men would walk by the isles more often than not and pick up something else. You'll get that once a while celebration, and that's it.

Having a release however, is almost a necessity for a man. Since when did getting off become a luxury? A weekly one is almost a necessity to most people guys and girls alike. Girls can capitalize on our enraged hormones if business is priced properly. They can also make a living doing it if rates are affordable. Not saying they need to be super cheap, no. But an average of 220 to 260 per hour for a regular visit shows its sustainable while guys are happy it's within their budgets weekly and ladies get more inquiries to keep a steady flow of customers. That's still a lot of money annually for a hobby.

Over 80 percent of the men here can't live on champagne and if guys can't sustain the drink orders (only a small few can just like the few who could drink champagne), girls can't make a living either trying to provide at those rates. It's a catch 22. Even if a guy could drink champagne all the time, they will still gravitate towards the beer Isle and whiskey more often than not. Or find that one single bottle they will settle with as opposed to trying the others out because he only can afford so much. Next thing you know, a distributor closes it's doors due to not enough bottles being sold. And now you end up with less variety on the market and guys wondering where to spend their money for a new drink.

You also have the mislabeled factor. It's labeled champagne, priced as champagne, but you leave feeling like you drank something else entirely, and not Dom.

Those who make it affordable, will see more regulars and get more inquiries than those who do not.

I see ladies in the hobby more like fine wines. Better with age. Reason someone came up with that expression. And wine has always been more affordable, even a good one.

I agree a lady should charge what they are comfortable with. But do realize that majority of men likely can only afford liquor or wine (notice I did not say beer) on a weekly basis. This in turn would likely lead to better returns and repeat drinkers those going into those industries as opposed to champagne full time.

I could be wrong, but after talking with quite a few people, makes sense to me if the hobby was at a somewhat "norm". It is supposed to be more affordable than a rw gf isn't it?

Drink for thought...

Gentlemen, I understand what you are saying, I understand it can be frustrating that rates are increasing,I understand why you think it makes good business sense to have lower rates, rates that accommodate you. But I do not agree.

You don't seem to realize, you are a very, very, very, small fish in this big sea.
Eccie is a very small part of the "Hobby"

The Hobby..... think of the craziest thing you can imagine..... you can sell it in the hobby!!!! Anybody can make money here.

- Advertising options for a provider, to name a few, are, Eccie, P411,TER, Eros, backpage, the gentlemans club, the streets, etc......

ECCIE
- Eccie users, 80% are clients.
- 45% of these clients are Eccie non posting members (some write reviews) These are the best clients, many champagne drinkers in this group.
- 5% of a providers potential income is from Eccie contributing members (regular posters, review writers)

Gentlemen, with all due respect, you only see a small part of this business, your part, a very small part. Not to mention, you could never understand our job.

If the "posters" here went on a pussy strike.... it really would not make much of a difference. Another man with $ behind you.

The best thing about clients that are regular posters, is the comfort level it gives a lady knowing a little more about him. Not the income.

For me, and for many other ladies that have spoken on this subject, the majority of the hobby income in Texas comes from Eros, then P411, then eccie, then eccie regular posters.

If ladies loose income because they increased their rates, then eventually they will drop their rates.....money talks and time will tell.
Imho, I think you guys need to get acostumed to paying 250/300 hr.

In reference to self value and dignity.....if anything, I have too much lol.

Besos,
Francisca

....the majority of the hobby income in Texas comes from Eros, then P411, then eccie, then eccie regular posters. Originally Posted by Ms Francisca

I have heard this many times from many ladies. The only reason I will go through the hassle of posting a review on TER (and it can be a real PIA) is because the lady specifically asks me to do one because she gets more business from there than from here. Rate Rants and threats of Pussy Strikes are cry-baby exercises in futility. We ain't all that, guys, and the ladies would do fine without us. Remember that and hobby within your budget. The mongers who routinely pay top dollar rarely post and never review. They're happy to take your place on the lady's schedule.

I see this crap all the time - people on a beer budget who want to drink champagne. Has this ever, ever worked for you? I didn't think so. Insanity is described as doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. These threads may be popular with the fan-boys, but not so much with the gals...

Find a girl that accepts what you want to pay, and stop bitching! Go to Moco if you have to. Fucking is so much more fun that bitching!

You do realize that you're self-screening, don't ya? Originally Posted by OldYeller

Yes!

... Rate Rants and threats of Pussy Strikes are cry-baby exercises in futility. We ain't all that, guys, and the ladies would do fine without us. Remember that and hobby within your budget. The mongers who routinely pay top dollar rarely post and never review. They're happy to take your place on the lady's schedule. Originally Posted by CoverMe

Yes!

Also, there is not much in this world that turns off women more that adult men crying like little girls about things they cannot have because they cannot afford them.

I'm in the automotive service industry, at a dealership that most would consider to be the highest level in the industry. I often hear people bitching we charge too much, but the majority pay without comments or complaints and simply move on. Most know what to expect and will have the highest of expectations. Paying a premium is justified when the services rendered are quality with value. When I'm faced with someone that challenges a price for a service that is offered for less elsewhere, I will rebuttal with justification and build value, while suggesting that anyone in any industry can find something for less, and let it be known that they know better than anyone else what their product or services are worth. Some posters have used the beer versus champagne analogy, and while that makes for a good price reference, does not mean a choice of one over the other depends on what the person can afford. I can afford champagne, but I would choose to pay for beer, because that's what I like to drink. Personally, I'm a cheap bastard and I'll spend as little as possible on anything, but I will shell out $$ when I'm justified. We obviously have choices, and when faced with a budget challenge, we can immediately decide based on what our budget can afford and/or wait and save for what we would prefer and/or desire.

Bottom line, everything we purchase for consumption, want or need, require and the necessities of life, all slowly inflate. We all have some choices when it comes to the $$ we spend, how much and where at, then have to move on with our lives. I tell people often that they have a choice of where they spend their hard earned $$ and control how much they spend. It is not up to me to meet their needs by lowering our prices because that's what they want to pay or because "we spend money hear all the time"... Yeah, and I spend money at HEB and Walmart all the time...to name a couple. I wish after a couple of hours at either store and a cart full of shit we picked up, and a $300+ tally, that I could tell the cashier I would only like to spend $200 instead because that's all I want to pay or I buy hear all the time and they comply.

In our hobby, yeah, I've noticed some increases among a few providers I've seen in my past, and many others that are still the same. Their donations are higher than some, but have been the same for 2+ years. We have a wide variety of ladies to choose from and I truly believe that they have a wide variety of clientele. I don't think either will be left horny or broke.

I'm appalled at the fact anybody thinks they can tell somebody how much they SHOULD be charging for service provided. That's like going in a jewelry store and telling the diamond watch they should be just as much as the rubber Walmart watch they just bought bc it looks nice too.

I see this crap all the time - people on a beer budget who want to drink champagne. Has this ever, ever worked for you? I didn't think so. Insanity is described as doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. These threads may be popular with the fan-boys, but not so much with the gals...

Find a girl that accepts what you want to pay, and stop bitching! Go to Moco if you have to. Fucking is so much more fun that bitching!

You do realize that you're self-screening, don't ya? Originally Posted by OldYeller

Beer vs. champagne. What I get tired of, OY, is paying for champagne and getting the same beer over and over and over. I can afford champagne, although I really have no taste for it, but I simply cannot compare some paid for pussy to beer and some to champagne. To me, paid for pussy is all pretty much the same, and the "experience" the high end providers pride themselves in offering is so transient that it seldom lasts until I get out the door. In short, whether I pay 200.00 or 400.00 I am getting the same product...pussy, and that is when it is good pussy. There have been times when I have shelled out premium rates for pussy that was flat out bad. So, why pay more when I can get the same for less? Maybe I am getting old and jaded, or maybe I am tired of kidding myself that paying for pussy really does not get me what I am looking for. Oh. Mokoa, do you ever get tired of pimping for the gals on this site?