Any SugarDaddys out there??

So is the punch card thing not goin fly? Originally Posted by Dlh

As long as you can afford the membership fee to be in the club.

Thanks jinny

Nope, I already knew he Lusted for me....

When an SD starts talking apartment, lawyers and divorce that's not lust.
And personally I think if it's not reciprocal it should end then and there.
There's lots more than just sex that keeps most SD's married Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

The L can be there without it leading to the breaking up one or more marriages.

At the end of the day, some people are great for each other in small doses and poison for each other in large doses. Others consume your whole life. Most I'd say fall somewhere in between.

Whatever the arrangment it's gotta be reciprocal and it requires honesty and communication. And if that line is crossed and it's not reciprocal someone needs to call that to attention in an adult way... which is hard because we're talking about irrational, impulsive, passionate behaviors.

Whatever the arrangment it's gotta be reciprocal and it requires honesty and communication. And if that line is crossed and it's not reciprocal someone needs to call that to attention in an adult way... which is hard because we're talking about irrational, impulsive, passionate behaviors. Originally Posted by Atomic Hamster

Exactly.

Something related to this I met a girl on SA that I know has been a pro-ho. She doesn't know I know and she prefers to pretend like she has not....which is fine with me. I just will not do the exclusive thing with her even though she has asked many times. I don't see her on tos anymore but I'm sure she has some regulars.
I'm going to differ with everyone here and say a pro could be a SB but she would have to want a complete change in lifestyle. In Pittsburgh the best SB's are girls that are either in college or have a job. There are not enough guys in Pittsburgh willing to completely support a sugar babe. Originally Posted by Charley3

I agree, for a pro to turn, she would have to change it up. But that is easier said than done. Most are not going to do that, as they are used to the lifestyle. And you really have no way of being sure she is 'exclusive', even with a normal SB. But, the best SBs are the ones in school, have a real job, have a SO, etc..

I agree with you Ron - most guys here have no clue as to what the real sugar arrangement is. They see themselves banging someone multiple women they found off of SA as a sugar relationship. Ummm, no. Not that there is anything bad about banging multiple women found on SA but it is not a true sugar arrangement

But this is a monger board - so that is how most guys here think. Originally Posted by berryberry

Exactly true. No one on here is a saint, myself included. Nothing bad about banging multiple women from SA. There are plenty of women on there who do the p4p few guys a day deal. There are also plenty of real SBs on there too. And a few pros who advertise as well.

I figured that mentioning the real sugar thing as an investment in the babe, and not being a good idea to do so with a pro, would stir some crap up.

Damn right. No real SD is going to invest in a pro ho. Think of it as a bad business investment.

Sure there are some different ideas on what the sugar thing is, but in it's original form, we are giving the gal an allowance to help her with bills, etc.. in exchange for intimate time. Its not p4p, but an investment. And for that investment you hope that she isn't playing multiple daddys or working as a pro. If they have a BF or hubby, you accept that. Your role is that of the main guy on the side.

Any ho who starts doing the real sugar thing is always going to have her regulars calling. Originally Posted by ron32

Focus on that last sentence: indeed, I think any SA girl who "knows what she is doing" in relation to the SA scene (which is really an extension of "the hobby" scene, whether guys think of it like that or not) can Acquire As Many Individual Clients As She Wants….

As easy as it is imagine an SA SD/hobbyist forming a "rotation" of SA girls he sees regularly and consistently- any SA-SB can (if she knows what she is doing) acquire the same type of "rotation" of clients…..

If an SA girl wants to see six (6) guys regularly then I bet she can find six (6) guys on SA willing to see her regularly, if she "knows what she is doing" with the whole unique SA scene. If she wants to see ten (10) or twelve (12) guys from SA then she can do that too…..

Sure, there are girls on SA who want to see for money just one (1) guy. I think there are MORE girls on SA who will see the EXACT number of guys who will pay all their bills…..

I have seen BCD girls on SA where the intro PM exchange and then setting up a session, and then the completion of the session, was all EASY and SEAMLESS. Those are the Pro-Ho's of SA. Those girls can get as many clients on SA as they want. One client, four clients, six clients, a dozen clients…..

I don't assume girls on SA are "less promiscuous" or "more exclusive" than Eccie or TOS providers, and particularly UTR Eccie and TOS-press girls who see only their regular clients. I think SA girls run the gamut from SB's who want to see BCD just one (1) guy, to the SA girls who will see BCD EXACTLY As Many Clients They NEED To to pay all their bills, just like Eccie and TOS-press girls who are UTR and who have their own "rotation" of regular clients….

And the Pro Ho's on SA will always let their clients think they are "low volume' and "exclusive"- just like pro UTR girls with Eccie and TOS press. If they "know what they are doing" with the SA scene then they will have as many clients as they want…...

Focus on that last sentence: indeed, I think any SA girl who "knows what she is doing" in relation to the SA scene (which is really an extension of "the hobby" scene, whether guys think of it like that or not) can Acquire As Many Individual Clients As She Wants….

As easy as it is imagine an SA SD/hobbyist forming a "rotation" of SA girls he sees regularly and consistently- any SA-SB can (if she knows what she is doing) acquire the same type of "rotation" of clients…..

If an SA girl wants to see six (6) guys regularly then I bet she can find six (6) guys on SA willing to see her regularly, if she "knows what she is doing" with the whole unique SA scene. If she wants to see ten (10) or twelve (12) guys from SA then she can do that too…..

Sure, there are girls on SA who want to see for money just one (1) guy. I think there are MORE girls on SA who will see the EXACT number of guys who will pay all their bills…..

I have seen BCD girls on SA where the intro PM exchange and then setting up a session, and then the completion of the session, was all EASY and SEAMLESS. Those are the Pro-Ho's of SA. Those girls can get as many clients on SA as they want. One client, four clients, six clients, a dozen clients…..

I don't assume girls on SA are "less promiscuous" or "more exclusive" than Eccie or TOS providers, and particularly UTR Eccie and TOS-press girls who see only their regular clients. I think SA girls run the gamut from SB's who want to see BCD just one (1) guy, to the SA girls who will see BCD EXACTLY As Many Clients They NEED To to pay all their bills, just like Eccie and TOS-press girls who are UTR and who have their own "rotation" of regular clients….

And the Pro Ho's on SA will always let their clients think they are "low volume' and "exclusive"- just like pro UTR girls with Eccie and TOS press. If they "know what they are doing" with the SA scene then they will have as many clients as they want…... Originally Posted by tolstoy

Very good post.

I look at todays girls as being more open and experienced and they are never going to let on to how many or what and who and where. I'm not talking about Pros .I talking about the average girl or SA girl or Pro.

Just remember this if you taint the first then don't worry about what you will never truly know.

I just became a premium member. After a few months of just being a regular member. Soooo many emails I got in just a few days. My head is spinning. I am not the most experienced out there , but I getting the feel for sorting out the pro's from the semi pro's .

Man...its what you want. If you're happy, do it. Jinny...there's a market for every girl on SA. Not every guy knows of hobbying. So it's possible a guy would never know what your past involved except what you say.
I've had a steady for 4 months now. The lust is less and it shows. Now I have the conundrum of what to do. She's a great, intelligent girl. I love just talking to her. When the emphasis wanders off physical fun...danger zone.

I just became a premium member. After a few months of just being a regular member. Soooo many emails I got in just a few days. My head is spinning. I am not the most experienced out there , but I getting the feel for sorting out the pro's from the semi pro's . Originally Posted by xxbuzzkillxx

Its easy once you get the hang of it. The easiest pros to spot are the gals on SA who are in publicly posted lingerie pics, advertise in their profile as 'up to meet guys', call you honey or sweetie in the first or second message, etc.. Same behaviors that you see in the BP or ads anywhere else. Some just plainly look like beat up pros in their profile pix too.

Its easy once you get the hang of it. The easiest pros to spot are the gals on SA who are in publicly posted lingerie pics, advertise in their profile as 'up to meet guys', call you honey or sweetie in the first or second message, etc.. Same behaviors that you see in the BP or ads anywhere else. Some just plainly look like beat up pros in their profile pix too. Originally Posted by ron32

I think there are SA girls who (very positively) offer a "straight line" to the simple "transaction" of what guys real want, and they just want to make money easily, safely and conveniently. These SA girls (positively) have the same "let's just get down to business" attitude of most Eccie and TOS providers, and whatever their individual SA client number/client "volume" is.....

Other SA girls require more "getting to know you", which does Not happen with Eccie and TOS providers. Eccie and TOS providers want to know if a guy is "safe", if he has seen other providers BCD with no problems, etc. Many SA girls want to "check out" a guy before deciding to do business with him.....

It has been repeated many times: they will bang Someone for money, but not just Anyone for money. Rather, many SA girls WILL bang any guy who inquires with them. They want to set-up sessions THAT day often, and make money quickly and conveniently. Other SA girls want to satisfy the Illusion of "I am not a prostitute!" and they want to "check out" a guy some (or a Lot) before agreeing to do business with him......

The major difference between SA girls and Eccie and TOS girls, and I think the Major Problem with SA, is the number of SA girls who Actually.....Request.....Face. ....Pics.....Of......SA......G uys. They think this is a "civilian" transaction, and they want some basic "attraction" to a guy. Again, the whole "they will bang Someone for cash, but not just Anyone" theme. I suppose that is reasonable if a girl is "new to the game", but the whole "can I see your pics, honey?" request is essentially common-practice on SA now.....

I think the prospect of hobby-johns Sending.....Their......Face... ...Pics to girls on SA, no matter the straight-level of "civilian" or "provider" each girl is, is Straight Hobby Madness. It is as hobby-BENT as the idea of having any of these girls To.....Your.....Residence.:sho cking: Pure Hobby Madness IMHO.....

And my refusal to send my Face pics to SA girls "cuts in half" all my action there, and I am cool with that.....

The "meet and greet" is not bad if I am in the mood. Determine really what an SA girl Looks like BEFORE agreeing to do business. But planning any "meet and greet" cuts-in to the work week, so that is a major negative. Plus, many SA girls WON'T even move forward in the process At All without seeing Face pics of SA guys.....

SA is a TRIP, no doubt about it. I have had great sessions with SA girls, all for "market rates" of what I would pay on Eccie or TOS. And I have experienced a couple BP-style "street" fiasco's with SA chicks who are "alert" worthy. Lots of "variety" of girls on SA, from straight "street" hookers to (really) "exclusive", MEGA-Hot, young girls who will Perform like porn-stars for the right price. There are no "norms" on SA- it's all a total "free market" of Varied-hobby-experienced girls with Varied "expectations" of what they are involved in......

I got news for all of those that are delusional.
If you take money for sex you are a pro.
If you pay a girl and you have sex with her you are a trick.
I do not care how you white wash it. A sugar baby is a professional hooker and the sugar daddy is a trick.
If you thinck you are the only one tapping it, you really are delusional.
Then you not only are a trick but a sucker as well.

Hey, who am I to say how a fellow spends his money.

You can also substitute sugar baby with wife and for many of you it is equally the same.

I got news for all of those that are delusional.
If you take money for sex you are a pro.
If you pay a girl and you have sex with her you are a trick.
I do not care how you white wash it. A sugar baby is a professional hooker and the sugar daddy is a trick.
If you thinck you are the only one tapping it, you really are delusional.
Then you not only are a trick but a sucker as well.

Hey, who am I to say how a fellow spends his money. Originally Posted by The2Dogs

And I have posted many times: don't assume an SA girl is "exclusive" and "low volume". She could be banging as many guys as any provider who "knows what she is doing" in relation to the hobby.....

In fact, the prospect and possibility of an SA girl having her own "rotation" of SA guys is just as imaginable as an SA guy who "knows what he is doing" with SA and the greater hobby and he has his own "rotation" of SA girls.....

Sure, there are girls on SA who want to bang just one (1) client. I think there are MORE girls on SA who bang the EXACT number of guys they NEED to in order to pay all their bills. Just like Eccie and TOS-press "UTR" providers who don't formally "advertise" or place ads but they all have a certain "rotation" of "regular clients" who pay all their bills....

If a provider, an SA "civilian" or an Eccie/TOS provider, or a BP girl "knows what she is doing" with the hobby then she will have as many clients as she wants....