Would a pimp keep you from seeing a provider?

Are females who manage 3 or 4 girls considered female pimps?

I seen jazmine sky a few time's she openly told me she has a pimp but never again to me she's being taken advantage of.But she's still a kid she need's to go back home and be a teenager.

Are females who manage 3 or 4 girls considered female pimps? Originally Posted by big country

Thanks big country you had to throw that monkey wrench in! Hmmm I say yes she is called a madam! But still the same thing! It's like seeing 2 guys kiss that is gross but 2 girls, very hot! That goes with the pimp game too!

I agree stay away from ladies with Pimps . I have heard bad stuff over the years about Pimps and how some ladies do not want to be there but are forced and I heard that the Pimps are always some where close so check closets at incalls . LOL

This is a good question and one that I can't answer strictly yes or no. If a provider appears not to be into it, but 'wants' to do it anyway, I don't see them again. Not a good experience for me and I assume (especially if they make or receive a call before we start) they have a pimp. I have been able to get to know a few girls that have a bf/so that knows they do this and I continue to see them because they seem to be really into it. I met one lady that when she opened up she told me her bf was in prison and she did this to help send him money every week so he could be the 'big man' on his cell block. In the case of the bf/so, I would rather they know so they don't find out and flip out sometime when I am with her. The pimp that is running 4 or 5 girls.... As long as he stays out of the picture and the girl appears to be okay with it I might continue to see her. But she wouldn't be a regular for me.

I want a provider that is really into the session and enjoys being with me and typically that is a girl that is doing this for herself and no one is making her do it.

Nice justifications guys.

Way to encourage this disgusting behavior. Every last one of you with some kind of excuse for why you can see a pimped out girl should let your daughters got spend a week with the "harmless" pimps.

Jazmine Sky, no longer a valid reference. Thanks for the heads up!

Absolutely no to girls with pimps. I had a pimp pull a gun on me once when I was a very young nube about 30 years ago and would prefer to avoid that scenario again.

No to pimped girls! No to girls with pimp-like boyfriends/SOs! And no to girls that seem exploited or take advantage of! Originally Posted by Redwolf

I didn't realize you were a saint as well as a sinner..

I won't deal with girls that are being "pimped". But when you start talking about deadbeat boyfriends or SO's that leach, as long as I don't have to deal with them (although I have made exceptions to that) that's their business. I assume most of the ladies have someone who is looking out for them to make sure they get back safely from an appointment.

The difference is whether or not the girl is being "pimped", meaning being put out to work against her will or if she's being helped via security (like an agency girl does). If she's being put out against her will or forced to see guys she doesn't want to, then no way in hell do I want a part of that. But if she just has a deadbeat BF, as long as he's not turning her out, that's her business, not mine. And a lot of these girls have BF's, SO's or hubbies and they do this because it's the best money they can make and they're working it like a job. Pays better than McD's. Again, as long as it's her decision to play, then I don't care. I see mostly UTR girls and many of them are married. Hubbies are actively involved in the initial "screening", but not involved BCD. My fave girl's hubby and I have become friends and actually golf. He sends me pictures of her that he takes when she's on her way to my room and tells me to get ready. For them it's a mutual decision. She's definitely NOT being coerced into anything.

So in the end, it comes down to freewill. If she's able to exercise hers, the details are irrelevant. If she's not able to, then it's repulsive and I want no part of it.

Are females who manage 3 or 4 girls considered female pimps? Originally Posted by big country

Manage as in pimp manage or agency manage?

Being a madam is way different than a pimp in most cases.

Its been my experience in the over 30 years I have dealt with adult oriented businesses that most pimps are pussies. Seriously, why the fear of them, it boggles the mind. Should someone see a girl that they know has a pimp, no, but really unless you see him, how do you know one way or the other. In most cases pimps operate out on the street, what you deal with when using an escort is a boy friend or driver/protector.

No, I would not see a girl if I knew she had a pimp. I do not want to give my money to a pimp! There's no need for this type of exploitation nowadays! Originally Posted by Smoking Monkey

Yes!

JR

My concern is do you think it would ever become a security issue for you? Pimps seem like dirt bags who could possibly attack you or come after you if they have your screening info. I am new though and that kind of behavior would seriously hurt their bottom line, I just don't count on them being smart enough to think about that before they act. Originally Posted by shamrock55

How would it hurt the income if they get additional income by robbery?

JR

Its been my experience in the over 30 years I have dealt with adult oriented businesses that most pimps are pussies. Originally Posted by dirty dog

James Woods as Lester Diamond, (Casino - 1995) comes to mind.

Seriously, why the fear of them, it boggles the mind. Should someone see a girl that they know has a pimp, no, but really unless you see him, how do you know one way or the other. Originally Posted by dirty dog

The pimp usually (there certainly are exceptions) has no interest in robbing or in blackmail. He's too afraid of confrontation he believes he may lose, he wants to control the female as he views them as something that he can own and he believes they are powerless against him, if they fight back (at all, in ANY manner) he beats them, sometimes to their death - he can't stand the thought of being confronted by another man - he might actually get hurt or lose that battle.

There are more than a few posts in this thread where the gentleman proclaims they'd never see a lady with a "pimp" (or even a boyfriend or S/O) and when you look (and if you know happen to know the truth of it), you'll find they've each reviewed several ladies that either are/were actively being pimped (using the definition of one that is abused, controlled and manipulated by someone else via physical and [primarily] emotional force to perform activities they otherwise would not entertain) or they are/were controlled by a boyfriend or S/O (and by controlled, I also mean abused).

In most cases pimps operate out on the street, what you deal with when using an escort is a boy friend or driver/protector. Originally Posted by dirty dog

Usually yes . . . and there are plenty of street pimps left in KC. NORMALLY, one doesn't encounter them here on the boards, although they have made the transition slowly technologically (they have to be more careful in how they cover their tracks), but, those I would term "traditional pimps", as in "don't eyeball me or let me catch you out of pocket" type pimps are becoming more and more predatory on the Internet everyday. There are a few cruising the board here in KC, they typically are members whom do not post and use PM exclusively.

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Sens55 summed it up very well, IMO (and so did Questor) - and many have made the distinction between ladies that are being "pimped" and those working smartly with some type of security or safety net in place.

For me, the difference is simple. REGARDLESS of what you call the person doing it, if the lady is being pressured/abused ("turned out"), she need not be patronized less the cycle be continued. However, IMO, it is difficult (if not in most all circumstances, actually impossible) for most all gentlemen in this endeavor to know when they actually encounter such - and it may be career suicide for one of us ladies to point it out to you guys, no matter how factual it may be . . . For instance, there are examples of reviews here on ECCIE from gentlemen proclaiming a lady has a "pimp", when in fact she is a true independent and has no attachment to any other single person IRL (other than her family) . . .

And, then there's the whole dichotomy / hypocrisy angle which Silly Girl touched upon . . . but that's a whole other thread.

Choose wisely - look for ladies (yes, such as myself) that treat the endeavor like a business and "run clean" - ladies that WANT to do what they do and whom have made a conscious decision and choice to do so for themselves. There are many of us - and in the end, you'll probably be much happier - as you'll have more consistent positive and pleasurable experiences.

Be safe!

Kisses,

- Jackie

I didn't realize you were a saint as well as a sinner..


Originally Posted by malwoody

Why yes! Hehe.

A saint I ain't. A sinner is winner.

For V day, I can put on a halo and angel wings.

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Interesting question for guys who make a point of not meeting ladies that you know to be or suspect are being pimped: do you pass on them because you are concerned that their having a pimp could endanger you (robbery, blackmail, etc.) or do you pass on them because you do not want to have anything to do with their exploitation as Smoking Monkey put it?