Yep, O'Blunder Cares About Jobs...riiiigghht.

" The House has approved more than 15 bills that, if enacted, would immediately help to grow the economy without more failed stimulus spending."

http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/11/10...-bills-stalled Originally Posted by Ducbutter

I thought it was more like 30 ?

nonetheless,

Carl Riccadonna, a senior economist at Deutsche Bank, said some of the bills could create jobs, but that they would amount to more of an afterthought in terms of achieving broader policy goals.
"They are very narrowly targeted, and it gives the impression that maybe some of this is special interest really pursuing these, not really taking a macro view but a very, very micro focus in what the impact would be," Riccadonna said. For most of the bills in the package, "jobs are a second- or third-order effect, not the main priority."

how about you laughing boy, in your infinite wisdom (snick) please tell everyone why a republican majority house and senate failed to pass a budget ..



It happened with the budgets for fiscal years 1999, 2003, 2005 and 2007. And remember that the budget for any given fiscal year is something dealt with during the prior calendar year. That means the fiscal year 2007 budget was dealt with in the Republican 109th Congress.


source: the Congressional Research Service (PDF). Originally Posted by CJ7

You are right CBJ7, the Republican controlled Senate did fail to pass a budget resolution for the years 1999, 2003, 2005 and 2007. And that is inexcusable.

But this will be the 4th year in a row that the Democrat controlled Senate has not passed a budget resolution. That is inexcusable also and you seem to be defending this because the Republicans have done it in the past.

Why don't we fire the whole bunch of them and get some responsible people in Congress and the Presidency to run this nation before they all run this great nation into bankruptcy. Why do these same assholes keep getting reelected?

youre preaching to the choir ...

Im a term limits proponent from the word go ... I have yet to disagree with Mark Twain's oponion of congress on any level

how about you laughing boy, in your infinite wisdom (snick) please tell everyone why a republican majority house and senate failed to pass a budget ..



It happened with the budgets for fiscal years 1999, 2003, 2005 and 2007. And remember that the budget for any given fiscal year is something dealt with during the prior calendar year. That means the fiscal year 2007 budget was dealt with in the Republican 109th Congress.


source: the Congressional Research Service (PDF). Originally Posted by CJ7

Unlike you, when my side gets it wrong, I call them on it. Yet another example of typical middle school libtard drivel. "You did it, and even though it's illegal, we want to do it, too...it's not fair!!"

Unlike you, when my side gets it wrong, I call them on it. Yet another example of typical middle school libtard drivel. "You did it, and even though it's illegal, we want to do it, too...it's not fair!!" Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN

you completely missed the point ...

youre dismissed

you completely missed the point ...

youre dismissed Originally Posted by CJ7

Thanks. I was starting to get a headache...I always do when attempting to have constructive dialogue with a 12 year old girl.

God help the GOP.

Obama is focused on jobs "like a LASER."

Those golf course aren't going to play themselves.

I hate to use a Wiki link, but they outline the process pretty well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...budget_process

United States Budget Process

The President, in accordance with to the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921, must submit a budget to Congress each year. In its current form, federal budget legislation law (31 U.S.C. 1105(a)) specifies that the President submit a budget between the first Monday in January and the first Monday in February. The President's budget contains detailed information on spending and revenue proposals, along with policy proposals and initiatives with significant budgetary implications.

The House and Senate Budget Committees begin consideration of the President's budget proposals in February and March. Other committees with budgetary responsibilities submit requests and estimates to the Budget committees during this time. The Budget committees each submit a budget resolution by April 1. The House and Senate each consider those budget resolutions and are expected to pass them, possibly with amendments, by April 15. Budget resolutions specify funding levels for appropriations committees and subcommittees.

Appropriations committees, starting with allocations in the budget resolution, put together appropriations bills, which may be considered in the House after May 15. Once appropriations committees pass their bills, they are considered by the House and Senate. A conference committee is typically required to resolve differences between House and Senate bills. Once a conference bill has passed both chambers of Congress, it is sent to the President, who may sign the bill or veto. If he signs, the bill becomes law. Otherwise, Congress must pass another bill to avoid a shutdown of at least part of the federal government.

Here's an interesting timeline about the lack of a budget since 2009, from the Senate Budget Committee. Its hard to argue with facts, but I'm sure some of you will.

http://budget.senate.gov/republican/...a-a746ecec6a51

Timeline Of Senate Democrats’ Refusal To Make Budget Plans Public

April 29, 2009 – The last time the Democrat-led Senate adopted a budget resolution. Also the last time the Majority brought a budget plan to the floor.

April 22, 2010 – The Budget Committee completes action on a mark-up and reports a budget out of committee, but the Democrat majority chooses to keep its own plan from being offered on the Senate floor. This is the last time the Majority conducted a legally required markup.

May 17, 2011 – Despite missing the statutory deadline for a budget to be passed out of the Budget Committee, Chairman Conrad delays the unveiling of his budget for FY 2012, announcing that “I’ll say something later — not today, probably… There are a lot of conversations under way.”

April 15 – The Republican-controlled House of Representatives passes its budget for FY 2012, which cuts $6 trillion in comparison to the president’s budget.

May 18 – Majority Leader Reid says it would be “foolish” for Senate Democrats to offer a budget.

May 19 – Chairman Conrad cancels a planned committee mark-up, announcing he will not reveal a budget to the public until after such time as the Gang of Six produces a proposal.

May 25 – The Senate rejects President Obama’s FY 2012 budget by a vote of 0-97.

May 23 – Senator Schumer, when asked why there is no alternative to the House-passed budget, answers, “To put other budgets out there is not the point.”

June 7 – Even some Senate Democrats become anxious about their party’s lack of a budget.

June 29 – Chairman Conrad tells Politico, “Senate Democrats have reached an agreement on a plan — just now — and we’ll be putting that out sometime soon.” (Note: the plan was never made public, but a leaked outline revealed that it contained as many as $2 in tax hikes for $1 in spending cuts.)

November 9 – House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi claims that Democrats didn’t pass a budget when they controlled both chambers of Congress because “Republicans would have filibustered it,” but as she should know, budget resolutions can’t be filibustered.

January 24, 2012 – President Obama delivers a State of the Union address that falls on the 1,000th day since Senate Democrats offered a budget plan. Although the president focuses much of his criticism on “the way Congress does its business these days,” he neglects to mention Senate Democrats’ budget failures.

February 3 – Days after Chairman Conrad promised to hold a budget mark-up in committee, Majority Leader Reid declares that the Senate would not consider a budget for the third straight year.

February 12 – Current White House chief of staff (and former OMB director) Jack Lew falsely claims that budget resolutions require 60 votes to pass the Senate.

March 14 – Every Republican on the Budget Committee reminds Chairman Conrad that the Congressional Budget Act deadline for passing a budget out of committee is April 1.

March 29 – The Republican-led House passes a budget for FY 2013.

April 17 – Chairman Conrad cancels the scheduled Budget Committee mark-up for the second year in a row, a move that the New York Times reported “surprised Republicans and Democrats, who were expecting him to produce a Democratic budget that, if passed by the committee, would have been the first detailed deficit reduction plan in three years.”

April 29 – Three years pass since Senate Democrats adopted a budget.

May 10 – Treasury Department figures show that the nation has spent $10.6 trillion since the Senate’s Democrat majority last passed a budget.

Here's an interesting timeline about the lack of a budget since 2009, from the Senate Budget Committee. Its hard to argue with facts, but I'm sure some of you will.

http://budget.senate.gov/republican/...a-a746ecec6a51 Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...d-pass-budget/

As per law, Obama has submitted a budget for each fiscal year he’s been president -- fiscal years 2010, 2011 and 2012, according to a quick check on the Government Printing Office’s website, where the documents are posted. It’s as simple as that.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...itted-budgets/




http://www.gpo.gov/help/about_budget...government.htm

Politifact is looking at the technical workflow. What it is leaving out is that the president is the leader of the democratic party and should be telling the Senate which is controlled by his party to do their job. He knows that he cannot get a budget passed that does what he wants so he is choosing to ignore the budget process. The Senate does not have to pass the House budget but they have an obligation by law to pass a budget. They then have an obligation to find a compromise with the house. They know they will not like the compromise so they are ignoring the legal obligation they have. For all those blaming the republicans wake up. When the democrats controlled the house the republican president compromised with them. Clinton compromised with the republicans. Why do these democrats feel they do not have to find a way to compromise?

Yappy lap dog starts barking and every hound in the hood chimes in.

Idiots!

Politifact is looking at the technical workflow. What it is leaving out is that the president is the leader of the democratic party and should be telling the Senate which is controlled by his party to do their job. He knows that he cannot get a budget passed that does what he wants so he is choosing to ignore the budget process. The Senate does not have to pass the House budget but they have an obligation by law to pass a budget. They then have an obligation to find a compromise with the house. They know they will not like the compromise so they are ignoring the legal obligation they have. For all those blaming the republicans wake up. When the democrats controlled the house the republican president compromised with them. Clinton compromised with the republicans. Why do these democrats feel they do not have to find a way to compromise? Originally Posted by Laz

the president proposes a budget, said budget goes to the house where all spending bills originate, the house rewrites the budget to suit their needs etc and passes it on to the senate, the senate rewrites the budget to suit their needs and sends it back to the house ... unless both sides compromise and reach an agreement ... political football


yada yada yada

its a congressional budget that the POTUS doesnt even need to sign