In The Land Of Bunga Bunga…

It's nation PWI day......and dangit I'm not. Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

...and neither am I.

does that mean the soviet era, or even the putin era, pravda, if absorbed and looked to for insight and enlightenment, should have brought one closer to your views? Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Not at all...but he is at least enlightened enough to read the material. Doesn't necessarily mean he subscribes to them or is influenced by them. I'm sure if I disclosed I read Pravda, I'd suffer no end of slings and arrows here.

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HANK?!?!?!?!?

What the hell are you doin' reading Pravda?!?!?!? Originally Posted by Mazomaniac

He is studying the enemy. Information is power.....Some people are paid by our government to read and keep up with this information. How else would a "honeytrap" work unless you study the man......

Not at all...but he is at least enlightened enough to read the material. Doesn't necessarily mean he subscribes to them or is influenced by them. I'm sure if I disclosed I read Pravda, I'd suffer no end of slings and arrows here. Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Not really. I admitted I periodically read the New York Times. From our relative political points of view, whats the difference? NYT is further left of where I am than Pravda is of you.

maybe she looks better in person Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

maybe without the dress. Originally Posted by pjorourke

I'm puttin' my money on neither. Originally Posted by Mazomaniac

Pretty sad to lose a career over a third tier broad like that! Originally Posted by John Bull

Wow, you guys are tough. She is more than attractive (hotter than Spitzer's downfall) and would be a hit in my area. I guess I don't have true D & T standards.

Awl4knot

[/SIZE] [/SIZE]I was wondering when you were going to chime in. As you stated, Nina, in this instance, 18 year old Ruby is not with Berlusconi. She’s puttin’ on the Ritz with Austria’s Richard Lugner, who is 78 years old. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

And Richards GF is also a little bit over 20 something. Rumours have it she was a "professional" as well. As was his ex-wife.
Not that i mind, i had a guy being 30 years older when i was 18 for 7 years. That is Europe.
He was one of the best things ever happened to me. Without him i wouldn`t be where i am today.

The Lugners are an interesting family. They like scandals and to be in the media portrayed amongst them. They even have their own show similar to the "Kardashians" or acts like that.

I personally doubt Berlusconi will loose his job over her. But i am curious about the court proceedings.

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HANK?!?!?!?!?

What the hell are you doin' reading Pravda?!?!?!? Originally Posted by Mazomaniac

Yeah, you're on the maniac's pravda paper route and should send your business his way.....

I only read the blurb, but proving that she spent the night at his villa and got money is a far cry from proving he was fucking her for the money.

You get a real newspaper, and read between the lines, and things become a bit more clear. The NYT reports that there are three aides that were allegedly procurers who may also be indicted. If that's true, and they are indeed indicted, then they can turn State's evidence in exchange for a light sentence, or even dismissal of charges, and roll over on Burlesconi. Then the prosecution somehow become viable as you have some evidence to link the payments and the nights spent at his villa to an actual quid pro quo of money for sexual favors. (As I had understood it, the gal denied the charges. She would be the other obvious source of testimony on the quid pro quo issue.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/wo...%2Findex.jsonp

mr. burlesconi's defense is two fold:

1. he has a girlfriend already and she would have "ripped my eyes out"

2. he's 74 and its too much for anyone

"The 74-year-old faces trial in Milan next month over charges he paid for sex with a Moroccan minor and used his influence to try cover it up. In court documents, prosecutors have identified 33 women, including the Moroccan teenager, who allegedly prostituted themselves during parties at Berlusconi's villa near Milan."

Wow, you guys are tough. She is more than attractive (hotter than Spitzer's downfall) and would be a hit in my area. I guess I don't have true D & T standards.

Awl4knot Originally Posted by awl4knot

Yeah. I didn't think she looked bad at all.

In Italy, all that will just get him re-elected.

YAY! Italy!!! Better to be screwing some hottie than screwing the country. Wimmen all 'round for the Repubs...of course since most of them think like Babbists, they'll have to be sent 50 miles from home.

"In court documents, prosecutors have identified 33 women, including the Moroccan teenager, who allegedly prostituted themselves during parties at Berlusconi's villa near Milan."

Just because they did it at his villa doesn't prove he hired them. There going to have to prove more than that. Of course the worst thing in the world is to read about anything remotely complex in a newspaper. Journalists are lazy, and often don't know shit from shineola about the law.

I only read the blurb, but proving that she spent the night at his villa and got money is a far cry from proving he was fucking her for the money. Originally Posted by TexTushHog

There are telephone protocolls. That is what made the blurb really ugly. There were escorts (or women) discussing details of what they did with Berlusconi. That was the reason. And Ruby got into a police control and bailed out because she was "Ruby". That is how all of that got into the ugly details.