Looks like it was an accident, and not some illegal animal hellbent on killing Americans

I try to wait and form impressions once I receive enough information on an incident. No one here will ever be accused of that. Fox and the rest of the RWM, framed this as some bloodthirsty illegal who murdered some woman in cold blood. Is it any less tragic because it was an accident? Of course not, no one is saying that. But it would be nice to find out what the fuck happened before we are fed a bunch of politicized bullshit. Originally Posted by WombRaider

All News outlets report the news as they receive it. So by Fox News reporting this incident initially as an intentional shooting resulting in murder doesn't necessarily mean FOX News intentionally deceived viewers now that new information is calling it an accident.


Jim

All News outlets report the news as they receive it. So by Fox News reporting this incident initially as an intentional shooting resulting in murder doesn't necessarily mean FOX News intentionally deceived viewers now that new information is calling it an accident.


Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

It wasn't what they called it, it was the political narrative they formed around it. They used it for political gain, something they criticize liberals for doing. Conservatives like to say liberals never waste a crisis, well here is an example of the right doing the same goddamn thing.

It wasn't what they called it, it was the political narrative they formed around it. They used it for political gain, something they criticize liberals for doing. Conservatives like to say liberals never waste a crisis, well here is an example of the right doing the same goddamn thing. Originally Posted by WombRaider

You really can't see the difference can you? When a liberal makes a stink it is to no purpose other than getting press time. They shout about laws that are not going to get passes and make claims that are untrue. When a conservative makes a stink it is usually to make a statement that promotes a law that can and will be passed. A law like Kate's law is overdue and it is supported by the people. What do the libs do? They talk about a gun ban here, a gun ban there, and another gun law that won't make any difference to stop the crime.

So passing a law to deport criminal illegal aliens is "wrong"??? You've got my vote this year for Dipshit.

It wasn't what they called it, it was the political narrative they formed around it. They used it for political gain, something they criticize liberals for doing. Conservatives like to say liberals never waste a crisis, well here is an example of the right doing the same goddamn thing. Originally Posted by WombRaider

I still find it hard to believe the claim that this incident was an accident regardless what anyone says. Here this guy was intentionally in public, armed with a rifle, that wasn't even legally his. The weapon was intentionally loaded, somehow his finger accidently pulled the trigger and the rifle went off killing an innocent bystander minding her own business. Forget the accident bullshit. It's still a murder and he should be charged accordingly.

Jim

I still find it hard to believe the claim that this incident was an accident regardless what anyone says. Here this guy was intentionally in public, armed with a rifle, that wasn't even legally his. The weapon was intentionally loaded, somehow his finger accidently pulled the trigger and the rifle went off killing an innocent bystander minding her own business. Forget the accident bullshit. It's still a murder and he should be charged accordingly.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

No one is saying he shouldn't be charged.

You really can't see the difference can you? When a liberal makes a stink it is to no purpose other than getting press time. They shout about laws that are not going to get passes and make claims that are untrue. When a conservative makes a stink it is usually to make a statement that promotes a law that can and will be passed. A law like Kate's law is overdue and it is supported by the people. What do the libs do? They talk about a gun ban here, a gun ban there, and another gun law that won't make any difference to stop the crime.

So passing a law to deport criminal illegal aliens is "wrong"??? You've got my vote this year for Dipshit. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Are you fucking kidding me? Conservatives don't make claims that are untrue? Gimme a fucking break. You have absolutely no proof that the law would do any more good than a gun ban here and a gun ban there. None. Kate's law isn't a law saying we should deport illegal aliens. It says they should get an automatic 5 year sentence if they re-enter.

No one is saying he shouldn't be charged. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Forget the accident part too. It's no accident.

Jim

So a gun can only be two things; in a pocket or pulled and looking to commit a crime? He stated he found the gun, perhaps he was looking at it. Why does he have to have it pulled and ready to commit a crime with it? Originally Posted by WombRaider

He found it? Right there on the pier in the middle of a crowed tourist area? In the middle of the day with a lot of people passing by? No one else saw it or they all left it alone? No one witnessed him picking it up?

"I found it and it went off by accident when I looked at it". Yeah, that's a winner of a story.

They may not be able to prove murder because it was a deflected shot. But that certainly doesn't mean he wasn't in the process of committing a crime. It's a evidence problem. He may have simply gotten lucky by the gun going off before he had a chance to bring it all the way up or before anyone saw him do anything more.

And, of course, he left right after he shot her. Which is what all innocent people do after a gun goes off by accident, right?

He found it? Right there on the pier? In the middle of the day with a lot of people passing by? No one else saw it and left it alone? Or witnessed him picking it up?

"I found it and it went off by accident when I looked at it". Yeah, that's a winner of a story.

They may not be able to prove murder because it was a deflected shot. But that certainly doesn't mean he wasn't in the process of committing a crime. It's a evidence problem. He may have simply gotten lucky by the gun going off before he had a chance to bring it all the way up or before anyone saw him do anything more. Originally Posted by ExNYer

I wouldn't call anything about this situation 'lucky'. For anyone. I didn't say the story was believable. I've repeated several times what the point was. It isn't about his guilt or innocence. It's about the political framework.

I wouldn't call anything about this situation 'lucky'. For anyone. I didn't say the story was believable. I've repeated several times what the point was. It isn't about his guilt or innocence. It's about the political framework. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Anything to protect " La Raza" and the ILLEGALS ,right woomby ! " By any means necessary " is what YOU'VE co-opted ( stole) from Malcom X to further the Reconquista movement and to defend the ILLEGAL leeches. Pinche puta !

Anything to protect " La Raza" and the ILLEGALS ,right woomby ! " By any means necessary " is what YOU'VE co-opted ( stole) from Malcom X to further the Reconquista movement and to defend the ILLEGAL leeches. Pinche puta ! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

I wish for once you had an original thought. I guess that's a bridge too far.

I wish for once you had an original thought. I guess that's a bridge too far. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Says the puta that parrots ALL of the DNC talking points daily here !

Says the puta that parrots ALL of the DNC talking points daily here ! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

What exactly do you think it is you're parroting...

Says the puta that parrots ALL of the DNC talking points daily here ! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

What exactly do you think it is you're parroting... Originally Posted by WombRaider

would this be it at 5:05 into the video, if only there were smelly vision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ

What exactly do you think it is you're parroting... Originally Posted by WombRaider

It's damn sure NOT the dumbascraps' talking points or whatever Shrillary decides is the "theme" of the day ! And it's not pushing the "delights" of "social democracy " or being a closeted swishy walker pining for " jalapeno " dicks either !