How/what would a provider charge for the following?

Well BeBe ..please don't get me wrong....I understand that you a running a business any non bcd time you be could earning money, time is money ...so If a provider gives me a freebee dinner time , I do try to thank her

Off the clock time - dinner, movies etc is earned. That's free time. My free time. Time I could spend with friends or family or work or (real) hobby or time I could be spending making money. Yes, your not paying to watch me eat could be costing me hundreds. Time is money. It's gonna cost somebody. If a provider agrees to off the clock lunch or dinner or whatever, then Thank Her. But insist on 4 hours for a 2 hour fee? No. Unless she's running a BOGO sale or something. Originally Posted by babee

Fair enough. I think the distinction probably comes down to:

For argument's sake, let's say you as the provider are actually interested in the event and wouldn't pass up a free ticket. . . . Finally, how would you charge if you were indifferent to the event in question-- i.e. take it or leave it? Originally Posted by Cpalmson

Restated: Is the lady attending that social event primarily for her pleasure, or for the client's benefit? If the former, she may not request a fee. If the latter, and she isn't that interested in that event, it does take away from time she would prefer to do something else, and compensation seems reasonable.

Of course, some clients over-estimate how much a lady might enjoy that event and assume it's for pleasure when she actually sees it as work. Even if it's something she enjoys, she may not enjoy it as much if she's spending the time with a client and therefore has to be "on." I'm sure that when I have an extra seat for a Cowboys game [club section, lower bowl], there are a few ladyfriends who would enjoy attending without charging a fee for their time [edited to add: or charging a reduced fee]. I'm equally sure that many more ladyfriends are not that enthusiastic about attending NFL games and would expect a fee [edited to add: or something close to their regular fee].

WALDT applies to the ladies and social activities as well. Don't assume she would enjoy that event enough to accompany you without a fee [edited to add: or with a substantially reduced fee]. The only way to know for sure is to ask. But ladies should not be offended by such an offer. Just decline, or explain that you have other priorities so there would be a fee [edited to add: close to the regular fee].

BTW, I'm not implying in any way for "free time" or a freebie from the provider. If I'm going to book 6 hours of her time, I think she should be compensated. My question is how would she handle the compensation. Would she consider the free ticket, food, drink, etc as part of the compensation? Would she simply stick to her normal rates even though only a portion of the time is for BCD? That is where my curiosity lies.

Well as we can see bcd has nothing to do with the fee structure lol.

BTW, I'm not implying in any way for "free time" or a freebie from the provider. If I'm going to book 6 hours of her time, I think she should be compensated. My question is how would she handle the compensation. Would she consider the free ticket, food, drink, etc as part of the compensation? Would she simply stick to her normal rates even though only a portion of the time is for BCD? That is where my curiosity lies. Originally Posted by Cpalmson

Its all going to depend on the lady and the deal on the table. Some will just stick to rates.. some wont. I personally enjoy other things besides money..


I would if its something Im into and the client offering. Like someone said above.. Id go to a NFL game! lol

Both threads are interesting. Isn't the fee for our time? I know we aren't talking illegal activities here riiiight? So tiddly winks or whatever should be the same right? Your time, you're paying, you decide how to spend it. I think most providers offer some kind of public, public/private, private pricing. Every date should be as unique as the persons involved.

Are you wanting a GirlFriend or a GFE? Some people want the experience - the whole deal. Pay a fee and done. But when you get bogged down in "rates and services" well, I wonder where that could go?

It's 1.99 a minute for conversation. 2.99 with eye contact. Smiles are 2.50 each and laughter is 5.00 per 30 seconds. Sexy smiles and flirty looks are of course extra. It's 100 an hour for me not to answer my phone while with you because I'm not making money since I'm not getting paid while we eat. 50 for girl next door clothing up to 500 for a designer look. Bad attitudes uninterest just "there" is 100, good attitude is 200, acting interested is 150. Exclusive interest + no phone/attending to business + good attitude/acting interested in you would be 400 (bundle pricing). Touching (holding hands, hand at my back, leaning into another while seated) is 50 an hour. 10 a kiss, 15 lfk, 20 per dfk. Hugs are 5. If you just want to pay for my meal, fine. I get to choose where, and with whom, I sit. Might not be with you. And of course if someone calls for a date (wants to pay me for my time); I'm gone. Please bring my doggy bag with you when you show for your paid date later. Me showing up for a date with a to go container is just tacky.

Is that really what you want to negotiate? Or just pay the flat hourly rate or the flat package rate. If a BCD hour is 2, non BCD's usually run at half so figure 100. Extended sessions are generally already discounted: 1 BCD hour is 200, 2 hours 300 and so on. I have already discounted longer sessions - both BCD and non and mixtures of both. An overnight is already discounted. If you don't want to pay for companionship, eating, sleeping, showers, conversation, laughter etc - you don't want the person but rather the act - book half hours or pay the full BCD rate for each hour.

That means the next time you book a provider for more than an hour you must insist on paying her full hourly rate for every hour "Now babee, I want a 12 hour overnight that I see you advertise for 2k. I insist on paying you 3600 - your 300 hourly rate times 12."

Does that seem fair enough to everybody?

Off the clock time - dinner, movies etc is earned. That's free time. My free time. Time I could spend with friends or family or work or (real) hobby or time I could be spending making money. Yes, your not paying to watch me eat could be costing me hundreds. Time is money. It's gonna cost somebody. If a provider agrees to off the clock lunch or dinner or whatever, then Thank Her. But insist on 4 hours for a 2 hour fee? No. Unless she's running a BOGO sale or something. Originally Posted by babee

Wow, you go girl! Break it down sista!

If it's baseball, football, or hockey.. or buzzfest or ozzfest.. I'd be happy to attend.
If you want me to go to nascar or some monster truck crap or a country music concert.. You'd have to pay me.


As for vacations..
I had someone once ask if I was interested in going to Hawaii.
He would pay the flights and hotel for a week(and yes, it was someone I'd known long enough to trust)
In return I would see him for dinner and an hour of play time each evening.
The rest of the week I could sightsee, see other guys, or whatever.

Considering my hourly rate when I was in Houston was 300, and this would be for a week, 300 x 7 = 2100.
The flights = about 1900. Hotel = 1250
so he would spend 3150 to see him for 7 hours, plus a worry free trip to Hawaii for 7 days.

If I didn't have kids, I totally would have said yes!! Because he offered me something I would like to do (go to Hawaii) but wouldn't normally indulge myself in.
But of course I have kids that I can't just leave for a week. So if someone wants to take me to Hawaii, I'll require an additional $3k to convince me to fly my kids to visit/torture grandma for that week. LOL

Yes, your not paying to watch me eat could be costing me hundreds. Time is money. It's gonna cost somebody. If a provider agrees to off the clock lunch or dinner or whatever, then Thank Her. Originally Posted by babee

Well you are going to eat at some point anyways, so go eat alone and not get paid. No skin off anyone's nose that way. I eat most of my meals alone, especially traveling and doesn't bother me in the least.

Babee did I tell you that you are my FAVORITE today. Don't care how much it cost me you are worth every penny

LOL

4 years ago I was working at a large refinery in St. Croix, in the Virgin Islands. I had seen a provider in Seattle just prior to the trip and mentioned I was going there, and she siad she wanted to go. We worked it out that I would buy her a plane ticket, and she woud be off the clock while there. Plus it helped that my company put me up in a 5 star resort with all the amenities. I also bought all the drinks, food and fun she could handle. i.e. scuba lessons, tours etc. Total cost, right at 2G's for a week. She got a free trip to the VI, I got to have a pretty girl on my arm and all the lovin' I could handle. We both had a great time.

Both threads are interesting. Isn't the fee for our time? I know we aren't talking illegal activities here riiiight? So tiddly winks or whatever should be the same right? Your time, you're paying, you decide how to spend it. I think most providers offer some kind of public, public/private, private pricing. Every date should be as unique as the persons involved.

Are you wanting a GirlFriend or a GFE? Some people want the experience - the whole deal. Pay a fee and done. But when you get bogged down in "rates and services" well, I wonder where that could go?

It's 1.99 a minute for conversation. 2.99 with eye contact. Smiles are 2.50 each and laughter is 5.00 per 30 seconds. Sexy smiles and flirty looks are of course extra. It's 100 an hour for me not to answer my phone while with you because I'm not making money since I'm not getting paid while we eat. 50 for girl next door clothing up to 500 for a designer look. Bad attitudes uninterest just "there" is 100, good attitude is 200, acting interested is 150. Exclusive interest + no phone/attending to business + good attitude/acting interested in you would be 400 (bundle pricing). Touching (holding hands, hand at my back, leaning into another while seated) is 50 an hour. 10 a kiss, 15 lfk, 20 per dfk. Hugs are 5. If you just want to pay for my meal, fine. I get to choose where, and with whom, I sit. Might not be with you. And of course if someone calls for a date (wants to pay me for my time); I'm gone. Please bring my doggy bag with you when you show for your paid date later. Me showing up for a date with a to go container is just tacky.

Is that really what you want to negotiate? Or just pay the flat hourly rate or the flat package rate. If a BCD hour is 2, non BCD's usually run at half so figure 100. Extended sessions are generally already discounted: 1 BCD hour is 200, 2 hours 300 and so on. I have already discounted longer sessions - both BCD and non and mixtures of both. An overnight is already discounted. If you don't want to pay for companionship, eating, sleeping, showers, conversation, laughter etc - you don't want the person but rather the act - book half hours or pay the full BCD rate for each hour.

That means the next time you book a provider for more than an hour you must insist on paying her full hourly rate for every hour "Now babee, I want a 12 hour overnight that I see you advertise for 2k. I insist on paying you 3600 - your 300 hourly rate times 12."

Does that seem fair enough to everybody?

Off the clock time - dinner, movies etc is earned. That's free time. My free time. Time I could spend with friends or family or work or (real) hobby or time I could be spending making money. Yes, your not paying to watch me eat could be costing me hundreds. Time is money. It's gonna cost somebody. If a provider agrees to off the clock lunch or dinner or whatever, then Thank Her. But insist on 4 hours for a 2 hour fee? No. Unless she's running a BOGO sale or something. Originally Posted by babee

How much money have you lost while posting the 1500+ posts? Have you ever taken the time to figure that one out?

None probably dear. I'm never here when there is something or someone to do. The ability to read & write was cultivated decades ago.

Nat, I owe you one dollar .50 for speaking to me and .50 for acting interested.

I'm just saying - pricing is not activity based per se. Or at least it's not advertised that way. When you start charging and paying for activities/actions..you go to a bad place. I don't think the OP (hey sweetie!) meant it that way. Just saying - thats a slippery slope folks. More importantly it's an individual choice and the only "right" answer are the peoples involved. The overnights and extended dates are fun especially if there is "something fun" involved. Me myself, I'll be enjoying a full day (9am-5pm) at the Smithsonian with a client - no charge. That's my choice, he offered a free tour, I asked for a whole day, he agreed (offered lunch too btw Chica) & what he doesn't know - I'll buy him dinner. But to say "I want to take you to dinner be about 2 hours, then 2 hours BCD but I only want to pay for 2 hours BCD." and base the rationale on "but we are not doing anything".

But to answer the OP question: I'd charge the way I always do. My 4 hour is 900 so I'd charge 500 to 400 depending on who (reg or not) and where (Applebees or Erling Jenson/Chez Phillippe).

Tell yall what, when I get home, I'll do the activity charge date with a few of my regs - a gfe and a freak. I'll let yall know how it pans out. So come up with charge by activity for me to use.

(1501)

edit thats 15fiftyone

Babee hit it on the head. That's exactly my point. If you have a mutual agreement, both people can have alot of fun. My Seattle girl had a blast. She wants me to contact her any time I go back. I wasn't super demanding for lovin, and we had a great time.

I'd just charge the 2 hour donation.

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