Oh ya, those founding fathers were way out of line...Tell that to the slaves!
You do realize this country was founded on the principles of limited government and individual liberties, right? Originally Posted by thathottnurse
But it is true, WE. Odumbo did advertise for years that he was born in Kenya, WE. Even Snopes says Odumbo advertised that he was born in Kenya:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...rs/booklet.asp
Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Oh ya, those founding fathers were way out of line...THN, you are a great provider and I don't have a bone to pick with you- but sweetheart arguing politics is not your cup of tea. As someone mentioned- tell that to african-Americans, Native Americans, Gays, etc. And define limited government please? Did your last "Conservative" President George Dubyah Bush not get the memo of limited govt? The govt grew far larger under Bush than it has Obama- and your icon hero Ronald Reagan in his 8 years the govt grew larger than any other President before him- those are FACTS!!!!
You do realize this country was founded on the principles of limited government and individual liberties, right? Originally Posted by thathottnurse
Ok and the Newspaper article that says Obama was born in Hawaii says other wise- read it and weep or just shut up : http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...-long-form.pdf Originally Posted by wellendowed1911Doesn't change the fact that Odumbo claimed that he was born in Kenya, WE. Yet you and other dweebs have the audacity to laugh at people who may have believed what Odumbo said, WE. After all, WE, you too were "#Grubered" into believing what Odumbo told you. So, WE, you shouldn't laugh at those who Odumbo "#Grubered" into believing he was born in Kenya.
Doesn't change the fact that Odumbo claimed that he was born in Kenya, WE. Yet you and other dweebs have the audacity to laugh at people who may have believed what Odumbo said, WE. After all, WE, you too were "#Grubered" into believing what Odumbo told you. So, WE, you shouldn't laugh at those who Odumbo "#Grubered" into believing he was born in Kenya. Originally Posted by I B HankeringProve that Obama told people he was born in Kenya- do you have sworn statements? Regardless your birth certificate is your official form. Which holds more weight if I told someone I was born in Paradise or if my Birth Certificate list Queens NY as my birthplace???? Heck one chapter in the Bible says Jesus was born in Bethlehem and another chapter says he was born in Nazereth- the problem is you idiots concern yourself with the wrong crap. While the Tea Party and the Birthers were playing checkers- Obama was playing Chess with you idiots LMFAO!!!!
Prove that Obama told people he was born in Kenya- do you have sworn statements? Regardless your birth certificate is your official form. Which holds more weight if I told someone I was born in Paradise or if my Birth Certificate list Queens NY as my birthplace???? Heck one chapter in the Bible says Jesus was born in Bethlehem and another chapter says he was born in Nazereth- the problem is you idiots concern yourself with the wrong crap. While the Tea Party and the Birthers were playing checkers- Obama was playing Chess with you idiots LMFAO!!!! Originally Posted by wellendowed1911The flyer is the proof that Odumbo claimed he was born in Kenya, WE. Snopes confirmed that the flyer is genuine, WE.
I am still waiting for Jackie, THN or IB to explain why your last conservative President George Dubyah Bush seemed to not uphold the constitution with his spying methods which clearly violates the constitution, but again since he has an "R" after his name it's oj- or maybe you all suffer from short tern amnesia. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911Even Nixon only dreamed of having as much information on the citizenry that Odumbo now has, WE.
"For now, know that every border you cross, every purchase you make, every call you dial, every cell phone tower you pass, friend you keep, site you visit and subject line you type is in the hands of the system whose reach is unlimited, but whose safe guards are not ..." Citizenfour.
Hahahahahahaha!! I nominate this for the most mindfuckingly ignorant post of the decade!I totally agree with ya. Liberals have been trying to sell this bullshit to the public for decades.
Anyone who seriously suggests that conservative thinking in the US has anything in common with the concentration camps in North Korea, the Marxist-led chaos in Zimbabwe, or the Islamic savagery in Syria is so completely out of touch with reality that he deserves to be ignored.
Let's not even dignify this thread by replying to it. Let's just let it stand by itself - Exhibit 1 proof that limpdick is an idiot. Case closed. Originally Posted by lustylad
THN, you are a great provider and I don't have a bone to pick with you- but sweetheart arguing politics is not your cup of tea. As someone mentioned- tell that to african-Americans, Native Americans, Gays, etc. And define limited government please? Did your last "Conservative" President George Dubyah Bush not get the memo of limited govt? The govt grew far larger under Bush than it has Obama- and your icon hero Ronald Reagan in his 8 years the govt grew larger than any other President before him- those are FACTS!!!! Originally Posted by wellendowed1911If I'm such a terrible debater then why did you not respond in your last thread to me about women's pay and start up this one instead? I don't have a bone to pick with you either. We are discussing a topic you started.
If I'm such a terrible debater then why did you not respond in your last thread to me about women's pay and start up this one instead? I don't have a bone to pick with you either. We are discussing a topic you started.First, check that thread I did respond to your question very clearly- if you go back- it's in plain Black and white. You are extremely hard to follow- where did you get an inkling that I said that ALL AA, NA, and LGBT are against conservatism? You tried to justify the issue by what our "Founding Fathers" envisioned and as I stated- many of those "Founding Fathers" had slaves and thereby thought slavery was ok- so do you really think African-Americans share the same visions as the founding fathers? I also clearly asked you are times the same in 1776 as they are now in 2015?- you refused to answer- fine.
Are you suggesting that all all AA, NA and LGBT are against conservatism? There are many conservative groups within those communities.
Limited government is the opposite direction of where we have been heading the past 50+yrs regardless of who was sitting in the White House. I'm not too fond of either party or Washington in general. I don't even vote on the national level anymore because it's such a joke.
However, there are principles that drive our liberties and freedoms that are unique to America and its important to retain those in our gpvernment if we want to make the most of that liberty and freedom.
I'm not sure why you hate conservatives and Republicans so much. But its skewing your reason and ability to make a sound argument. Originally Posted by thathottnurse
If you claim to love freedom you would wish a smaller more responsive government to actual general welfare Originally Posted by nevergaveitathoughtTell me how small do you want the govt???? When is the last time a republican President practiced that philosophy???? The govt grew under Ronald Reagan- George H. Bush sure as hell didn't shrink the govt and George W. Bush expanded the govt larger than any other President including the very liberal Barack Obama. All I hear is talk and nothing else- the only guy I think would actually reduce govt size Ron and Ran Paul- who are technically Libertarian and not Republican. Can you name me the last Republican POTUS who pushed for smaller govt?
