Outrageous stupid things? Like what? Supporting the US Constitution? Agreeing with the Founding Fathers? Do you disagree with the US Constitution and Founding Fathers?
Originally Posted by Marshall
Wow! Where to start on this masterpiece?!?
First, I'm not a liberal. I happen to know that Karl Rove (also not a liberal) is not impressed by Sara Palin, so the ad hominem attack that I must be liberal is: 1) a faulty inference because if I am a liberal, then Karl Rove must be a liberal, which I know to be false; and 2) it is not an insult to call someone a liberal (although I expect in your circular world where liberal is synonymous with evil it is, but in my world I have the intellectual breadth to pick and choose from the entire spectrum of political and social ideas, which means I can be a liberal on some things (women's rights over their bodies, including the right to engage in sexual relations with whomever they please for money or otherwise) and a conservative on others (letting market principles guide policy, which again allows the providers to take care of their business in peace)). We are a complex country and always have been. You might want to embrace the depth that this nation offers if you really want to celebrate its greatness.
Second, I know you don't want a Constitutional smackdown from a lawyer, so I'll go easy. First, reasonable minds can and have differed on the meaning of the Constitution, so your claim that Sara Palin somehow has cornered the market on Constitutional interpretation is laughable and offensive. Second, conservatives who say they support the Constitution are advocating strict construction and do not believe in a Constitutional right of privacy, but Palin does, which puts her in the liberal camp and by your reasoning opposed to Scalia and the other true supporters of the Constitution. Third, do you remember Palin's completely idiotic answer in which she seemed to think that the VP was somehow responsible for making the Senate get things done? Nuff said.
Third, agreeing with the founding fathers? Good lord. You do know that the founding fathers were heavily divided between those that sought a strong federal government and those that opposed it. Those issues didn't get worked out until the Civil War (if even then). So the statement means nothing without saying which founding fathers you want to support because the founding fathers were not a unanimous bunch. I think Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Obama have just as much right to claim the mantle of the founding fathers as Nixon, Reagan, and Scalia.
So do I disagree with the Constitution and the Founding Fathers? You betcha... Do I disagree that purely private conduct is within the reach of the Commerce Clause? Do I disagree that Roe v. Wade does not go so far as to reach prostitution laws as an unconstitutional invasion of privacy? Do I disagree that a black man is only 3/5ths of a white man? Do I disagree with prohibition? Do I disagree with the electoral college? You betcha... There are so many things I disagree with, but I still took an oath to uphold it, and I still believe that for all its faults, the United States is the greatest nation on the planet.
As to Sara Palin's stupid statements, there are so many but here are a few of my favorites:
- COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our-- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia--
- COURIC: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this — to stay informed and to understand the world? PALIN: I’ve read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media — COURIC: But what ones specifically? I’m curious. PALIN: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years. COURIC: Can you name any of them? PALIN: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news.
- "But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."
- "Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn."
- "We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada.
And for bonus points: Don't forget that Palin was prank called by Canadian comics who convinced her she was talking to French President Nicolas Sarkozy.
To be sure, these are all "Gotcha" questions [sarcasm font off], but I'm not sure I want a president so gullible that she can't spot a "gotcha" when the job requires dealing with some seriously unscrupulous bastards threatening America. I would hate to see a "gotcha" at the hands of China, Iran, Russia, or Islamic terrorists. Not acceptable.
So I'm really not sure what you are hoping to get from all this "liberal baiting" other than demonstrating just how badly you need one of these beautiful ladies to take you BCD and help you work out your frustrations (which is a perfectly legitimate reason to be on these boards, its why I'm here). But your arguments for Sara Palin fall flat, and as I stated, I believe she is not meant to be a serious candidate, but sort of a shrill carnival barker/clown who is there just to piss everyone off and hijack the news cycle with conservative stories.
