Does agreeing with Whispers automatically make you his lackie? Does standing up for a provider automatically make you a pussywhip?

No to both. No one is right all the time - not even me!

Attachment 317683 Originally Posted by PDid

The most memorable quote i'll ever remember from this site.

You own it, Pdid.

Arguing on an internet Escort Board makes all parties pathetic. Originally Posted by Von Spieler

"Arguing" for the sake of doing so, as many of those that challenge my opinion do, is rather pathetic...

Debating a subject minus the emotion however... is how people learn.... not just the ones that participate but the audience that is reading...

I can admit to knowing how to push buttons with someone after just a few posts and unless I am intrigued in exploring their opinions I tend to be able to stay on subject while sending them down a different paths....

When the emotion shines through their posts... and they start using derogatory terms towards me or calling me names...... I tend to count that as a WIN and play around with them a bit.....

I have enjoyed the dissenting opinions of many others though..... I learn something new every time I log in here I think....

A quick rundown of some prominent discussions and where some of us stood.....as far as I can remember. Anyone else can fill in the missing details...

1) GFX (Dre) vs the agency's girls:

Pro-providers....Savak, Whispers, SL, Dearhunter, RR
Neutral or Pro-GFX (until SL came forth with fresh details).....LilMynx, SKF, hiker, flinde, KKA, myself
And other nonchalant posters who "didn't want to get involved in the drama"

2) JJ taking advantage of mod privileges Link

JJ guilty.......W, SL, hiker, myself
JJ not guilty........SKF

3) Current topic of SG's fiasco (dog picture outburst and discretion red flags)

SG guilty.......Savak, W, Hiker, SKF, mayorcastro, dearhunter, myself
SG defenders.......a1bomb, precious_b, louigi, deere, net9, yanks, junkie, dew, newcumerz, SL

Several of us have stood on different sides of discussions

I suspect there's the impression that some of us communicate in private regarding SG's discussion. I've never met W or SKF and have never PM'd or received PM from them since the SG discussion started. Those of us that stand on the same side on this topic, do so because we came to the same conclusions after reading the details presented.....

Very interesting thread. Great points, Beagle. I've specifically stayed out of the other super thread. I only got involved when it was dragged into National, because I felt that was inappropriate. I wasn't that pleased with Whispers posting about it without specifics over there. I definitely spoke my mind, to no avail, about her supports that came there and, in their attempts to defend SG, linked it back here.

Funny thing is...I think both of those sides perceived me as "being against them."

The odd thing I see, and have heard others comment about, is that certain posters with absolutely discount anything Whispers said, simply because he said it. Similarly, many people agree with their favorite provider simply because they want to keep fucking her...

On the issue of W being a bully, I can easily see why he's perceived that way. In fact, in his own words:

I can admit to knowing how to push buttons with someone after just a few posts and unless I am intrigued in exploring their opinions I tend to be able to stay on subject while sending them down a different paths....

When the emotion shines through their posts... and they start using derogatory terms towards me or calling me names...... I tend to count that as a WIN and play around with them a bit..... Originally Posted by Whispers

I often could not disagree with the side he takes with regards to any topic. The means through which he gets his points across, though, is always rather controversial. He riles up many posters and is efficient at garnering lots of attention towards any specific topic. As a result, he's accumulated a "fan club" who have become fixated on opposing anything he says. Ironically, it's the "fan club" that would bolster W's ego.....

Going back to the SG fiasco, I see all these anti-W posters.......who have made their anti-W agenda synonymous with defending SG's mistakes, when in fact they're 2 different issues. W is no more a messenger than SKF and dearhunter are. Just because he's taken it upon himself to head this discussion, doesn't mean you anti-W members have to shoot down the message.

Going back to the SG fiasco, I haven't seen any posts addressing her innocence with regards to her accusations. It's degenerated into an anti-W and anti-SKF topic...

Post #18 - W wow I bet shrinks would love talking to you.

I've agreed and disagreed with him in the same arguments before. I think what he said is true. Most of the time he just makes comments to rile people up.

I've always believed and heard the statement ( can't remember where)
If you have to resort to violence to solve an argument instead of words. It just shows how stupid you both are.

freedom of speech ( as long as you don't directly lie) is absolute. Doesn't mean people have to listen, also doesn't mean you have to invade other people's fun either. Also doesn't mean gotta keep going over and over and keeping threads alive forever.

Ok I answer again since someone felt the need to interupt a simple answer and interpet his way.

No. Agreeing or disagreeing doesn't make you a lackie. People are supposedly adults and can make up their minds.
No one 100 % right or 100 % wrong.

No. Providers are people too. Some good, Some bad. Sometimes they do good or bad things. There's nothing wrong with defending a provider or a Hobbyist.
There's something wrong with attacking people ( Hobbyist or provider) just because you don't like them or have a vendetta against them.
I did. A Hobbyist irritated me and I went back and forth stupidly until I made a completely wrong comment about him. When I realized it, I apologized and stopped.

My comment about anonymity on interest making us uncivilized was not directed at a specific person ( although egomaniacs think every comment is for them.

this is an issue talked about on tv and in colleges. How many times have you heard the comment " well he/she isn't like that in person, it just how they are on the internet."

in person, I'm very shy unless I know you well. Here I'm a lot more expressive, I'm sure I'm not the only one.

A quick rundown of some prominent discussions and where some of us stood.....as far as I can remember. Anyone else can fill in the missing details...


3) Current topic of SG's fiasco (dog picture outburst and discretion red flags)

SG guilty.......Savak, W, Hiker, SKF, mayorcastro, dearhunter, myself
SG defenders.......a1bomb, precious_b, louigi, deere, net9, yanks, junkie, dew, newcumerz, SL
... Originally Posted by Beagle

I didn't know I stood on a side there.
That was long ago for internet time.
I have no interest in finding the link and checking it out.

A quick rundown of some prominent discussions and where some of us stood.....

SG defenders ... yanks ... Originally Posted by Beagle

Not so fast my friend.

I wish I could be a "pussywhip" .... just smacking vaginas all day.

Yeah.
Helping NW get the limp noodle treatement sounds better than looking at old threads.

San Antonio...

You have a troll problem. When they pull out the gestapo tactics and ransom demands it's time to go to war.

Let us all now how storming Whispers Beach works for you...

Let us all now how storming Whispers Beach works for you... Originally Posted by Wakeup

You said it.


Not me.