For those afraid to speak up about the "issues" in San Antonio

it's everywhere yo. tough to not step in it he's got it spread all over.

or you meaning something else?

One thing I've seen when whispers starts drama is the crop of double... Cough cough....I mean new handles that are drawn to the bs. Originally Posted by newcumerz

I notice that as well..... Thing is... It's usually a dissenter and for a long time now you can see a pattern with those handles eventually tied to Rocker Rick and banned..... I've seen ti as well with others that are pointed or banned and feel it's the way to try to say things they cannot in any other manner....

Anyone trying to shut this guy up will fail. No one else on this planet has enough time and inflated ego to spend behind a keyboard like whispers does. Almost 12000 posts!!!!!! And that's only this handle! I say we invite him to our social to get to know him and speak to him face to face. You never know, you might get to like him. Lmfao!!!!! But really whispers, would you consider having a chat in person with the sa crowd to alleviate any bad thoughts? Originally Posted by newcumerz

A while back..... I posted exactly where I would be and when with an invitation to SG, RR and anyone else that cared to show up and offered to buy the beers... It is not something I am opposed to...

There is certainly a lot of things that could be shared in person that cannot get posted to the board...... things that would probably shock as well as sway a lot of your opinions.......

But come on already....... SG can take and put this on a path towards ending in a simple fashion.... I've been saying it for over a week now.......

I popped back in as a result of her posting and waving my name around in her profile and signature line...... this could have been over a week ago as well as 8 or 9 threads and 10,000 views ago......

But since this all started back in January...... She takes no ownership, constantly provokes and seeks out the attention as well as fabricates stories to elicit pity and protection....

Truthfully though...... how open minded are you prepared to be? Others?.... Would reading PMs, Texts, and emails forwarded to me by others that make up the people that are afraid .... would it be seen with an open mind or simply discounted.?

I don't want to throw any of them under a bus but I would be willing to come to some sort of agreement on a neutral party that could see the source of all the communication and then verify that everything you read or listen to is exactly as I received it and not doctored in any way.....

How does a story get received if I share intimate details of someone's life that originated from Slave Guinevere? Some of her clients would need to be willing to allow anything said about them to be heard by the people at the table....

How would you respond to hearing Slave discuss a client with another lady that she never bothered to verify as being a provider as wwll as just engaging in gossip with her as she LOVES to tlke to her "fiends" even when she does not know who they are but feels they paid her the appropriate worship at the time? Does it get discounted because she did not know she was being recorded or do you stop and realize the implication of someone with an incredible amount of information on clients that is sharing it freely?....

There is no real way to prove much about any of it at all though without crossing the lines and outing her as well as others that have complained about her or shared info about her...........

There are embarrassing things in many of our pasts..... Would SG be willing to have her most fervent supporters sit at a table and hear where all this originates from as well as why opinions are where they are?


I can't think of a way to totally convince any of you of anything that does not cross lines so there would have to be a consensus at the table that everything is open for discussion.

Give some ot it some thought and send me a PM with a suggestion of just who should be present at such a sitdown..... As well as how anything that comes of it could be helpful.

IF YOU would like to meet to simply discuss the nature of how something like this should play out let me know and we can have a beer next time I am in town. Send me a PM with some suggestions of what it would take first to convince YOU that everything I have to say originates with a number of other people that all have similar issue and that there is more than a reasonable belief that it is accurate.....

At the end of the day though... lets not fool ourselves into thinking that there will not be "bad thoughts"..... I am sure that there is no convincing some and even if convinced, rather than take a look and show their disappointment at her they will simply hate on me for opening their eyes....

Heck.. There are people that still believe OJ is innocent and Manson bears no responsibility....

Dam! Honestly you lost me after the first paragraph. There are ways to make your point with just a few words. Seems like when a kid gets caught up and they ramble and ramble and ramble and ramble. Seriously, you need a vacation into the REAL world but I'm afraid THIS is your real world. I'm actually starting to feel sad for you.....

...........BAZINGA!

A while back..... I posted exactly where I would be and when with an invitation to SG, RR and anyone else that cared to show up and offered to buy the beers... It is not something I am opposed to...

There is certainly a lot of things that could be shared in person that cannot get posted to the board...... things that would probably shock as well as sway a lot of your opinions.......

But come on already....... SG can take and put this on a path towards ending in a simple fashion.... I've been saying it for over a week now.......

I popped back in as a result of her posting and waving my name around in her profile and signature line...... this could have been over a week ago as well as 8 or 9 threads and 10,000 views ago......

But since this all started back in January...... She takes no ownership, constantly provokes and seeks out the attention as well as fabricates stories to elicit pity and protection....

Truthfully though...... how open minded are you prepared to be? Others?.... Would reading PMs, Texts, and emails forwarded to me by others that make up the people that are afraid .... would it be seen with an open mind or simply discounted.?

I don't want to throw any of them under a bus but I would be willing to come to some sort of agreement on a neutral party that could see the source of all the communication and then verify that everything you read or listen to is exactly as I received it and not doctored in any way.....

How does a story get received if I share intimate details of someone's life that originated from Slave Guinevere? Some of her clients would need to be willing to allow anything said about them to be heard by the people at the table....

How would you respond to hearing Slave discuss a client with another lady that she never bothered to verify as being a provider as wwll as just engaging in gossip with her as she LOVES to tlke to her "fiends" even when she does not know who they are but feels they paid her the appropriate worship at the time? Does it get discounted because she did not know she was being recorded or do you stop and realize the implication of someone with an incredible amount of information on clients that is sharing it freely?....

There is no real way to prove much about any of it at all though without crossing the lines and outing her as well as others that have complained about her or shared info about her...........

There are embarrassing things in many of our pasts..... Would SG be willing to have her most fervent supporters sit at a table and hear where all this originates from as well as why opinions are where they are?


I can't think of a way to totally convince any of you of anything that does not cross lines so there would have to be a consensus at the table that everything is open for discussion.

Give some ot it some thought and send me a PM with a suggestion of just who should be present at such a sitdown..... As well as how anything that comes of it could be helpful.

IF YOU would like to meet to simply discuss the nature of how something like this should play out let me know and we can have a beer next time I am in town. Send me a PM with some suggestions of what it would take first to convince YOU that everything I have to say originates with a number of other people that all have similar issue and that there is more than a reasonable belief that it is accurate.....

At the end of the day though... lets not fool ourselves into thinking that there will not be "bad thoughts"..... I am sure that there is no convincing some and even if convinced, rather than take a look and show their disappointment at her they will simply hate on me for opening their eyes....

Heck.. There are people that still believe OJ is innocent and Manson bears no responsibility.... Originally Posted by Whispers

LOL... its a bitch when someone actually calls you on your suggestion and then you gotta figure out how to dance your way out of it isn't?

Next!

LOL... its a bitch when someone actually calls you on your suggestion and then you gotta figure out how to dance your way out of it isn't?

Next! Originally Posted by Whispers

Um, nope. Next

Dam! Honestly you lost me after the first paragraph. There are ways to make your point with just a few words. Seems like when a kid gets caught up and they ramble and ramble and ramble and ramble. Seriously, you need a vacation into the REAL world but I'm afraid THIS is your real world. I'm actually starting to feel sad for you.....

...........BAZINGA! Originally Posted by newcumerz

+1

Oh, I get it now! One of the most highly regarded and reviewed providers on ECCIE, a provider with the body of a goddess, the skills of a graduate of Kama Sutra University is out to "get" providers whose BMI is off the charts, WITH once a month reviews offering CBJ only and zero GFE! That makes perfect sense!

Oh, I get it now! One of the most highly regarded and reviewed providers on ECCIE, a provider with the body of a goddess, the skills of a graduate of Kama Sutra University is out to "get" providers whose BMI is off the charts, WITH once a month reviews offering CBJ only and zero GFE! That makes perfect sense! Originally Posted by Louigi

hitting the beer early today huh? Wrong thread man...

hitting the beer early today huh? Wrong thread man... Originally Posted by Whispers

I didn't figure it makes any difference what thread, you're watching all of your "look at me" threads!

I didn't figure it makes any difference what thread, you're watching all of your "look at me" threads!
Originally Posted by Louigi

No.... I just "Warning... Idiot Posting" messages when you are at the keyboard.

Do you read the shit you write the day after when you are sober?

Far more weighing in against her Louigi.....

Tide has shifted sir....

I would encourage everyone who has an issue with SG and her WKs, post something instead of being a silent majority. If you have issues with her conduct just say so.


SG - focus on providing customer service and TCB and you will do better than worrying about random dudes on her. What I eat, or in this case fxck, don't make you sh*t!

I would encourage everyone who has an issue with SG and her WKs, post something instead of being a silent majority. If you have issues with her conduct just say so.


SG - focus on providing customer service and TCB and you will do better than worrying about random dudes on her. What I eat, or in this case fxck, don't make you sh*t! Originally Posted by The Player

Maybe one should read the guidelines before one speaks in open forum...

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Being outed is part of the risk you take when you enter the hobby, same a getting arrested or getting a gift that keeps on giving...

If you aren't willing to take that risk, stop hobbying.

It's not that you're right or you're wrong Whispers, it's that you agitate the situation. If you have an alert, post it in the alerts and move on.

It'd be easier to take you seriously if you didn't time and time again just instigate things, for example, this thread.

You can stand back and pretend that you're high and mighty, but you're just as much to blame for the outings, and childish nature displayed on this board as the next person.

If everyone just got their fuck on and stopped acting like little kids and posting retarded polls, eccie san antonio would be a much better place.