I am sure this has been discussed many times BUT>>>>

Hell, when I started hobbying in the late 1970's and early 80's, it was pre-HIV/AIDS. By and large, you couldn't catch anything that penicillin wouldn't cure. BB was pretty standard. Time changed rapidly, though not rapidly for a few folks.

But I think TinMan is exactly correct. Many who are active here didn't live through the AIDs epidemic. Didn't see acquaintances die. Most were gay males or transfusion victims, but not all.

Hell, when I started hobbying in the late 1970's and early 80's, it was pre-HIV/AIDS. By and large, you couldn't catch anything that penicillin wouldn't cure. BB was pretty standard. Time changed rapidly, though not rapidly for a few folks.

But I think TinMan is exactly correct. Many who are active here didn't live through the AIDs epidemic. Didn't see acquaintances die. Most were gay males or transfusion victims, but not all. Originally Posted by TexTushHog

They know what they are talking about. Lots of us old timers, still around, that remember. In San Francisco, they had shelters set up as hospice centers. They were literately dying by the thousands. Yes, they have medications that will help prevent HIV from going into AIDS (Look at Magic Johnson) but you better have a great insurance policy or lots of money and give up sex for the rest of your life.

If I daty a provider I'm only going to lick on the clit. I'm not diving deep down into the pussy, there's no telling what the hell she's got going on down there. And there's no way in hell I'm going to dfk a chick who bbbj's 50 different guys a week. That's just beyond gross imho.

Sounds like you're banging some nasty chicks.

Sounds like you're banging some nasty chicks. Originally Posted by SweaterPuppies

Is your definition of "nasty chicks" a chick who bbbj's any random guy who happens to have 200 bucks and p411 account?

To be honest I see mainly non-gfe providers. Exchanging bodily fluids with providers isn't exactly my cup of tea. I don't care how "low volume" or "exclusive" they claim to be.

I agree with you on the BBFS craze. No idea how it started or why. I will give up DATY, DATO and CIM when you pound the last nail in my coffin.

When it comes to safety practices, I would compare the Escort/John relationship to Forrest Gump and girl, Jenny.


One is retarded and the other is a fucking whore.


People don't believe it will happen to them. Many won't get checked for fear of finding out the consequences, some don't care about themselves or others so just charge it to the game.

Who do they think gets diseases? People who fuck a lot of people often. That's us!

Guys, you got girls telling you that you wanna do some of that bullshit and the hint, the suggestion, the warning they have been sending you. There are a lot of rachet chicks out there spreading the gifts that keep on giving.



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Last year over 35,000 people were killed in car accidents. Need to stop driving.
Last year over 270,000 pedestrians were killed. Just walking down a street or road. Need to stay in the house.

I could go on with this list forever. Point is wouldn't it be a shame to find out, on the last night of my life; I'd spent the rest of it being afraid of everything. No kissing (exchange of body fluids); no BBBJ (exchange of body fluids); no DATY (exchange of body fluids).

I am not advocating for total disregard for a little common sense, but, please, what is the good of life if you don't live?

CDC estimates that 1,144,500 persons aged 13 years and older are living with HIV infection, including 180,900 (15.8%) who are unaware of their infection.

Blacks represent approximately 12% of the U.S. population, but accounted for an estimated 44% of new HIV infections in 2010. They also accounted for 44% of people living with HIV infection in 2009. Unless the course of the epidemic changes, at some point in their lifetime, an estimated 1 in 16 black men and 1 in 32 black women will be diagnosed with HIV infection.

I agree with GBFS , you can't live being afraid of everything out there. The chance of getting something from BBBJ is so small that you have a better chance of getting hit by lighting and attacked by a bear at the same time. For the price provides charge BBBJ is the bench mark.

Last year over 35,000 people were killed in car accidents. Need to stop driving.
Last year over 270,000 pedestrians were killed. Just walking down a street or road. Need to stay in the house.

I could go on with this list forever. Point is wouldn't it be a shame to find out, on the last night of my life; I'd spent the rest of it being afraid of everything. No kissing (exchange of body fluids); no BBBJ (exchange of body fluids); no DATY (exchange of body fluids).

I am not advocating for total disregard for a little common sense, but, please, what is the good of life if you don't live? Originally Posted by Gbfsl

How many people are killed by door knobs every year??

Frick!! It's safer to own a car. It's the non-upwardly mobile that always get
it in the rear.

I agree with GBFS , you can't live being afraid of everything out there. The chance of getting something from BBBJ is so small that you have a better chance of getting hit by lighting and attacked by a bear at the same time. For the price provides charge BBBJ is the bench mark. Originally Posted by rexdutchman

I'm concerned with the stuff that will kill ya. You are not going to get HIV doing oral sex.

Last year over 35,000 people were killed in car accidents. Need to stop driving.
Last year over 270,000 pedestrians were killed. Just walking down a street or road. Need to stay in the house.

I could go on with this list forever. Point is wouldn't it be a shame to find out, on the last night of my life; I'd spent the rest of it being afraid of everything. No kissing (exchange of body fluids); no BBBJ (exchange of body fluids); no DATY (exchange of body fluids).

I am not advocating for total disregard for a little common sense, but, please, what is the good of life if you don't live? Originally Posted by Gbfsl

Its not so much that you will die but that you will be down for awhile, or in the latest run of non-STD infections like more severe colds and flu's, possibly pass something onto a family member who may be more susceptible to illness....and so on and so on....

Point being, there is nothing to be lost but money by playing it safer for a short while. I upped my safety considerably this week due to heightened concern over the Ebola case in Dallas. Once the incubation period has passed and there is zero chance of more cases popping up, I will go back to normal but I will be more diligent about screening for any sniffles or fever overall. I simply cannot afford (schedule-wise) to be sick even with a cold. I have way too much going on to be laid up for even a few short days.

Yes I could get hit by a car or die in a car accident, but I decrease the likelihood considerably by wearing my seatbelt and being a responsible driver. I also take care not to be careless as a pedestrian which also ups my chances of survival. Being a responsible hooker is no different.

CDC estimates that 1,144,500 persons aged 13 years and older are living with HIV infection, including 180,900 (15.8%) who are unaware of their infection.

Blacks represent approximately 12% of the U.S. population, but accounted for an estimated 44% of new HIV infections in 2010. They also accounted for 44% of people living with HIV infection in 2009. Unless the course of the epidemic changes, at some point in their lifetime, an estimated 1 in 16 black men and 1 in 32 black women will be diagnosed with HIV infection. Originally Posted by OldLRRP

To be fair, many of those statics come from Africa where patient education and access to medical care is scarce. Those numbers are not respesentative of Black-Americans.

I agree with GBFS , you can't live being afraid of everything out there. The chance of getting something from BBBJ is so small that you have a better chance of getting hit by lighting and attacked by a bear at the same time. For the price provides charge BBBJ is the bench mark. Originally Posted by rexdutchman

The risk is extremely low that you would contract an STD from a bbbj. However the risk to the provider catching an STD from CIM or NQNS (due to the sensitive tissue in the mouth and throat) is much higher. The soft tissue at the back of the throat is more susceptible to HIV transmission than even the retina in your eye. Performing DATY is also higher risk than bbbj from the guy's point. Like the OP said, all those vagina secretions in your mouth... If she has an STD that can live in the throat or pass into your blood stream somehow then you are at risk.

No one discusses these things because it is uncomfortable and we all have an invincible quality to us to some degree (or we wouldn't be here). Do what you are comfortable doing.

Stay informed and make good decisions. Just like anything else.

I have way too much going on to be laid

does this mean you are no longer FS?




To be fair, many of those statics come from Africa where patient education and access to medical care is scarce. Those numbers are not respesentative of Black-Americans. Originally Posted by thathottnurse

huh? did he not just quote statistics in THE UNITED STATES?

huh? did he not just quote statistics in THE UNITED STATES? Originally Posted by Chung Tran

The first part? I thought he was tying in the first paragraph to the second. If not, my apologies.

Edit: You are right. I just looked it up. It is the US. I misunderstood. Sorry for misreading your post, OldLRRP. And thank you Chung for pointing it out.