Whispers and The Christmas Fundraiser

Pet the kitty...

Is this a group hug?

Maybe we can get back to what we're here for!

First off let me apologize to Whispers for causing problems for his fundraising efforts.
I spoke out against something that I really have no idea how it operates. I have tried to lend a hand the last 2 years, and everyone always had a good time. I was speaking falsely about allegations of fraud. I know nothing about anything to do with the fundraising, other than I contributed to the raffle that occurs. I struck out at him for personal reasons. I feel awful that I did that, but at the time I was desperate, and that was the only way I knew how to hurt him. Unfortunately I hurt others that depend on his generosity. There are a few that picked up the actions of trying to discredit it while I was gone, I hope you people will realize I struck out at him for personal reasons, and not because I had knowledge of misdeeds. I know of no such misdeeds, fraud or anything of the likes of that. Please leave these efforts alone, do not talk falsely about them as I have.
Whispers I hope this helps, because I'm sorry that I attacked something you care so much about, it was wrong. Originally Posted by rockerrick

Very nice.
Welcome back.



KKA
XOXO

A group hug!!

Nice!!

Probably too late.......the process for this year should have started at the beginning of September.

First off let me apologize to Whispers for causing problems for his fundraising efforts.
I spoke out against something that I really have no idea how it operates. I have tried to lend a hand the last 2 years, and everyone always had a good time. I was speaking falsely about allegations of fraud. I know nothing about anything to do with the fundraising, other than I contributed to the raffle that occurs. I struck out at him for personal reasons. I feel awful that I did that, but at the time I was desperate, and that was the only way I knew how to hurt him. Unfortunately I hurt others that depend on his generosity. There are a few that picked up the actions of trying to discredit it while I was gone, I hope you people will realize I struck out at him for personal reasons, and not because I had knowledge of misdeeds. I know of no such misdeeds, fraud or anything of the likes of that. Please leave these efforts alone, do not talk falsely about them as I have.
Whispers I hope this helps, because I'm sorry that I attacked something you care so much about, it was wrong. Originally Posted by rockerrick

I've known you for a few years Rick. It has bothered me that you chose that path although we talked more than once about how you getting worked up was really keeping you from being as effective as you could be in meeting objectives you set for yourself. You tend to let too many things get personal that should be kept in another place.

I'm not sure what to think about this considering how long it has gone on and how late it is in coming but Thank-you for what you have said.

Yes. It is a cause I have cared a lot about. For me, it's been a way to balance things that I know are wrong over the years that I've done by giving something back to those less fortunate.........

I appreciate the post and accept your apology in regards to this matter.

I don't know that the damage done though can be undone at this point..... Usually a lot of plans have been made and things have been started..... I've told everyone that it's not happening......

Once again though. Thank-you for clearing the air on what you posted earlier this year. Originally Posted by Whispers

Awww, so sweet!
Welcome back RR

I'll be damn............Hell did freeze over! lol

SL, make sure that briefcase of money is still in your grasp

Lol group hugs? Only until next time lol. this is funny although I don't know exactly what's involved with this Santa that brings gifts from the sex industry. If whispers really cared about the kids and Christmas he would give them all the thousands he spends on young pussy every year and give directly to them instead of getting others involved.! do it on a personal level. Be a silent Santa and don't worry about telling others. That's the real deal.

Ricky, I wouldn't be sorry. This event Seems like a selfish way to make himself feel good for all the sinning he's done all year. Oops! Just actually read whispers post that reflects this already. Nevermind carry on. Group hugs!!!!!

So what if it makes him feel good? I'm ok with that. Helping the 2 years I did made me feel good as well.

It is supposed to make you feel good to give to others especially kids and the less fortunate and is what we all should be doing as decent human beings. I dont think Whispers or anyone else for that matter who promotes their fundraisers here or anywhere is wrong because it gets others involved in the giving. Its a type of marketing to a unique venue of persons so it isnt going to be like that of others in the RW anyhow. It is the thought and the action in getting it done and making it happen that matters and that is what Whispers and the MANY who have been involved in this project for YEARS have been doing. The kids get what they deserve and that is the end result and what is important. None of the other BS matters. It is what it is.

It is supposed to make you feel good to give to others especially kids and the less fortunate and is what we all should be doing as decent human beings. I dont think Whispers or anyone else for that matter who promotes their fundraisers here or anywhere is wrong because it gets others involved in the giving. Its a type of marketing to a unique venue of persons so it isnt going to be like that of others in the RW anyhow. It is the thought and the action in getting it done and making it happen that matters and that is what Whispers and the MANY who have been involved in this project for YEARS have been doing. The kids get what they deserve and that is the end result and what is important. None of the other BS matters. It is what it is. Originally Posted by KlassyKelliAnn

Yes. Well said. I agree with most of what you said. There are hundreds of ways to give though. But what I have seen and read here from the "promoter" is that he is not a good spokes person for this. He angers many and it seems as if someone were to really care about a cause, he or she would be a good role model for it and not be a dick all year so that people want to give. There are plenty examples out there to point out. People shouldn't see it that way, but we aRe only humans.

The act of kindness and giving to the less fortunate should be something that fills your soul, not for others to pat you on the back for. Plenty of people do it here on this board like you said. Most remain silent. But that's hard to do when you ego Needs to be stroked all the time.

He angers many, but the funny thing is, he IS able to rally many at a time that counts. If he pulls it together, you should attend and find out for yourself. ijs There is usually a sizable crowd.

Yes. Well said. I agree with most of what you said. There are hundreds of ways to give though. But what I have seen and read here from the "promoter" is that he is not a good spokes person for this. He angers many and it seems as if someone were to really care about a cause, he or she would be a good role model for it and not be a dick all year so that people want to give. There are plenty examples out there to point out. People shouldn't see it that way, but we aRe only humans.

The act of kindness and giving to the less fortunate should be something that fills your soul, not for others to pat you on the back for. Plenty of people do it here on this board like you said. Most remain silent. But that's hard to do when you ego Needs to be stroked all the time. Originally Posted by newcumerz

I give in a variety of ways, most that are never discussed here....

The role I play here on the board is not who I am as a person and does not define the things I do to help people in need.

To be truthful..... I anger very few in comparison to the numbers of people that donate......

Would it be fair to say that I have angered Rocker Rick? Yet he has already pledged a donation should we go forward with it.

The problem with you and a few others (yes a few as there are tens of thousands of people on the boards) is that you let what is posted here take a grip on your emotions and do not set it aside.

You do not seem to believe that even the most dynamic of those that vocalize dissent for the views of each other can come together and eat, drink and enjoy events off this site..

Yet it happens....

Ladies hate me is a generalization I hear all the time yet 22 ladies stepped up and helped last year.....

I am who I am and have been for 14 years. There is no shortage of people that believe in leaving what is on the board exactly there.

Dam. Was trying to respond candi style but failed lol
good for you

Whispers,
I'm just stating what I see and from others postings.

i believe you can come together and be friends. Which is why I posted the thread for you to come to our events to meet us. But you didn't.

what you failed to realize is that instead of being ok with the few who participate or the 22 ladies you are proud of, you can rally HUNDREDS more if you went about things differently. I don't believe you don't see that. But hey, you've been who you are for 14 years and it's worked perfect for you right?

Is it really too late to make a difference? Never too late!