ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THIS ABOUT OBAMA'S THREATENED IMMIGRATION REFORM EO?

He has no idea it is illegal, just copying Reagan and Bush #1 Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Yep, apples and oranges EVA. Reagan did it with congressional support and promises that they never kept. Bush did it in a very limited way and people had to step up and be counted. Neither of which is part of the Obama plan.

He has no idea it is illegal, just copying Reagan and Bush #1 Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Then we should learn from History.

In this case, three wrongs do not make a right.

If we follow President Obama's lead, then about 15 years from now we will be facing another wave of illegals. The only thing that will be different is the date on the calender.

Then we should learn from History.

In this case, three wrongs do not make a right.

If we follow President Obama's lead, then about 15 years from now we will be facing another wave of illegals. The only thing that will be different is the date on the calender. Originally Posted by Jackie S

+1

Spot on. This shouldn't even be a debate. Why are we rewarding criminals? It's like going in to rob a bank, and having the bank president say "Sure! Come on in! Help yourself! And be sure to tell your friends about our 'frequent robber' program!"

Too bizarre.

Why do you assume I am a Dem? Last time I looked, which is when I voted, my voter registration card said Republican.

However, the class of immigrants expected to be covered by the Obama's EO is basically the same class that Reagan and Bush covered in theirs. Originally Posted by chefnerd

You have yet to cite where either Reagan or Bush 41 proposed to grant veritable amnesty to 5 million illegals, chiefnerd.

The big difference with Bush is that Congress had also clearly indicated they were going to tackle the issue. Originally Posted by chefnerd

Exactly!

And btw, there is no letter 'i' in my name. Originally Posted by chefnerd

Tsk, tsk, chiefnerd. Odumbo didn't appropriate all of the "I's" for his personal aggrandizement speeches.

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Then we should learn from History.

In this case, three wrongs do not make a right.

If we follow President Obama's lead, then about 15 years from now we will be facing another wave of illegals. The only thing that will be different is the date on the calender. Originally Posted by Jackie S

Yep, apples and oranges EVA. Reagan did it with congressional support and promises that they never kept. Bush did it in a very limited way and people had to step up and be counted. Neither of which is part of the Obama plan. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

It was done after congress passed a flawed bill in '86 he did it in '87. You are just like the lefties.

Maybe you missed the obvious again. Reagan did it with congressional support. That is something that Obama is not doing. Congress also promised to close the border but lied about that. Typical democrats.

Congress will not tackle the issue....Obama is making them do so.

Folks may not like how he is doing so but Congress was elected to tackle tough issues , not just be a party of NO.

The future will tell if it was good politics or not.
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[QUOTE=I B Hankering;1056048973]You have yet to cite where either Reagan or Bush 41 proposed to grant veritable amnesty to 5 million illegals, chiefnerd.

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Obviously you are far more concerned with numbers than substance. The number of people involved is irrelevant. What is relevant is the action by a President of the United States.

But then again, you are far more interested in bringing stupidity to this board than factual information.

BTW -- what is that number now that started at 601?

Maybe you missed the obvious again. Reagan did it with congressional support. That is something that Obama is not doing. Congress also promised to close the border but lied about that. Typical democrats. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

It was done after congress passed a flawed bill in '86 he did it in '87. You are just like the lefties. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Seeing you apparently didn't read or understand try again.

The Ozombie King just passed comprehensive Cloward/Piven immigration reform... Whats next?

Obviously you are far more concerned with numbers than substance. The number of people involved is irrelevant. What is relevant is the action by a President of the United States.

But then again, you are far more interested in bringing stupidity to this board than factual information.

BTW -- what is that number now that started at 601? Originally Posted by chefnerd

The number of people is entirely relevant, chiefnerd, and Odumbo, unlike Reagan and Bush, is acting without congress and his action is at odds with what Odumbo himself has been saying for at least the last eight years. In Odumbo's own words, chiefnerd:

“[T]here’s no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our Southern border—a sense that what’s happening now is fundamentally different from what has gone on before...

”Not all these fears are irrational...

“The number of immigrants added to the labor force every year is of a magnitude not seen in this country for over a century .... If this huge influx of mostly low-skill workers provides some benefits to the economy as a whole—especially by keeping our workforce young, in contrast to an increasingly geriatric Europe and Japan—it also threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net.


Senator Odumbo in his 2006 autobiography, “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.[/SIZE]

He's forcing the worst Congress in history to earn their paychecks.

Impeachment proceedings are more strenuous than routine congressional business.

Thank you SLOBBRIN Junior!