The Houston Effect?

You should be quite familiar with the Houston Effect. You infested Austin with it. Originally Posted by saustin

Totally awesome thing is once the Genie is out of the bottle, there's no way to stuff him back in......... hahahaha

The whole basis of your argument is that one subset of the ECCIE population should be catered to over others. I strongly believe they should coexist—as I have seen in other web sites.

Why? Present a reason WHY it should matter to the owners of ECCIE that the whores participation in CoEd matters enough to cater to them.

Third, you base your arguments primarily on financials. The owners of this board did not create it nor do they run it daily for a reason other than making money.

But the reality is bet most people who pass through here do NOT pay, and many of the advertisers are probably getting far less return than they think they are. One approach would be to give a vote to every paying member and see where things go. I am not sure a lot of people would like the results.

The board is privately owned. The only vote that matters is the owners. Their decisions are made based on what increases the revenue as well as the value of the board.


Forth, you put great reliance on your example:
A) The whores in Austin that post are older and fatter than any most seem to want to fuck.

B) You should talk, You are an obese misogynistic pig and no one gives a fuck what you have to say.

The problem is, much of your argument is based upon how carefully the comments are worded. Change them to:

A) Those whores in that thread in Austin (specific reference) are older and fatter than any most seem to want to fuck.

B) Guys should talk, they are obese misogynistic pigs and no one gives a fuck what they have to say.

I suspect most readers will get the same mental image from the way you worded it and the way I did, but technically the guilty party is different in the two wordings.

EXACTLY! There is an acceptable way to say things within the guidelines that exist here on ECCIE that most people are either incapable of comprehending or refuse to stop and consider. That is the reason why I have Zero points and have never been banned. I know exactly how to express myself without running afoul of the guidelines.

(Just look at Rick’s recent personal attacks: do you agree he was sloppy with his words and should get slapped as in your example above?). I personally don’t like to hide behind word games and would rather apply any moderation to the substance/message, but I concede that is hard. I have blasted some folks on here and on other boards and in all the years and posts the only time I received any slap was because a couple members (guys) blatantly lied to mods about the issue. One can be exceedingly hostile and personal while hiding behind general words—and please don’t pretend you don’t know that. You are very good at it as well.

I have no problems accepting that.

Which leads to the whole issue of YOU believe it is fine to castigate and insult an entire group, but not individuals. I actually see group insults as worse than individual insults—though I admit group insults are more efficient on a per word basis.

It is not a matter of what I believe but a matter of how to get a message delivered in a manner acceptable here on the board.

No matter, the bottom line is the vision of what the board should be, who it should attract, and the atmosphere it should have. The problem is, there is really no “should” in any of that. That is completely subjective, and while your vision is not “wrong”, neither is it “right”. There are many alternate ways to define the what/who/atmosphere, and except for a few that probably go off the deep end most are no more “right” or “wrong” than the others. You favor a site encapsulated by your couple comments:

I was explaining why I believe it is the way it is as well as why it will continue in the same manner.

“In other cities outside of Houston the effects of whores posting were pretty rapid as guys catered to their whores and the whole white knighting that resulted in guys that were pussy whipped looking for attention they could not afford to buy developed. Really... THAT"S what MOST of the male posters in CoEd are there for.....Admittedly there are a few of us that consider you to be kind of pathetic and like pushing your buttons.....”

And

“This board is about the men. The whores do not matter.”

You have the right to that world view. Where you go off track is when you convince yourself—and shout to others—that your view is a divine decree from on high. Not unless you now own the board.

It's not a world view Old-T. It's a view of ECCIE from a long time member that has watched it evolve. It's a view that has been stated many times in the past and never corrected from above. The proof is in what you see. What you read.


I am not one who wants to silence your POV. My belief in the way forward for the most valuable board to the masses is to encourage threads of varying perspectives AND a mod process that is more effective in holding down the hostility. Whether that is very pointed hostility towards an individual, or the more carefully worded hostility towards a group (even when every reader knows precisely the individual being targeted). Right now there is a conscious strategy to carefully stay within the letter of the rules (if not the intent, and even if some are careless and step across the line) to make this a hostile place to many people.

I prefer to see a diversity of threads, not every thread for every reader. Simple, if you find a thread uninteresting, skip over it. If you disagree with a point, respond without the hostility or move on. I do.


PS: I wonder what your view of this post from this morning in this thread is:

“Hey BugleGirl, you've been whining about the hostility in Austin coed for a couple weeks now, so what exactly is it you think your question started?
Kinda an over inflated ego you got going on there”

Does that fall in your Example B category, worthy of a mod slap? I certainly seems to fit the prototype and I would expect you to be consistent.

I think you missed the point made that once a member has entered into a confrontational arena with other members, it becomes a matter of "He asked for so let him deal with it" due to the fact that amount of REAL work needed to be done by the staff is overwhelming in comparison to the time they volunteer to spend. I have no doubt that the incessant whining from CoED members has overtaxed staff to the point that a lot is getting overlooked. Maybe you didn't notice the thread where a MOD approved and gave premium access to a female member that wrote a review. It seems apparent someone was simply clicking buttons in haste for some reason doesn't it? Originally Posted by Old-T

I enjoy and have always participated in a variety of threads.

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That is the reason why I have Zero points and have never been banned. I know exactly how to express myself without running afoul of the guidelines.
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Originally Posted by Whispers

Because he got hit with them on ASPD and possibly learned from that mistake.

Even the Hobby Gods stumble upon their lofty Marble Pedestals

Because he got hit with them on ASPD and possibly learned from that mistake.

Even the Hobby Gods stumble upon their lofty Marble Pedestals Originally Posted by Precious_b

Actually....... the maximum points I ever accumulated on ASPD was 13. And Yes..... From the first points I received I did learn from them. Isn't that what one is expected to do?

Hey BugleGirl, you've been whining about the hostility in Austin coed for a couple weeks now, so what exactly is it you think your question started?
Kinda an over inflated ego you got going on there Originally Posted by rockerrick

1. Yes, I thought this question might start another group of long posts, but hoped and found that the material would relevant and useful in bettter understanding the background and history of why things in eccie are the way they are.

Whispers met my objective for better education and understandings of ATX eccie Coed. Thanks Big Guy.

2. "Over-inflated ego" No, I don't believe so, at least from my personal perspective. I am an old fat guy who likes to bang hot young ladies (young being defined as any lady more than 10 years younger than me), who desires the NSA approach of the Pay-for-Play model of the Hobby.

How else would an old fat fart like me ever score with some of the hot babes we have here in the ATX play land--certainly not my sense of humor and great personality. I have yet to find a single lady who will bang me for free--lots ask for me to come back, but they are all looking for an envelope with a donation. If that is over-inflated ego, then guilty. I think not.

3. LADIES: If there are any of my regular ladies who would like to Bang BugleBoy for Free--PM me with a cc to RockerRick. Seriously, I am not a Cheap Date, so I will gladly spring for lunch or happy hour drinks and snacks after our session.

RR--I will be very surprised if any of my regular ladies offers me a free session. Guess that says where i view my "over-inflated ego."

I'm one who happens to believe that the preamble to the guidelines and specifically guidelines 1 & 3, most sum up the intentions of the owners. For those who don't know where to find them for reference, look here.
I also believe that trying to creatively word an insult to avoid violating a guideline in specificity is chicken-shit and is just as deserving of repercussions as if you'd out and out were rude. And it would help to restore civility to the board if some guidelines were applied to comments aimed at groups, be they a set of providers or a Mongers Posse, as well as those aimed at a specific person.
In other words, most of us know exactly to whom a generalized insult was directed, precisely because we've been following the previous back and forth commentary between the parties involved.
In closing, if you really have an issue with a certain member over some event or topic, discuss it among yourselves using the fine PM system that's been provided for that purpose. Please stop airing your dirty laundry in public.

Whisper's persona is nothing special in Houston.........just another voice in the crowd.

So in summary:

[A] Women on here are whores
[B] you are an attention whore

personally i found both A and B from your OP accurate and mean spirited. so I apologize to all.


Whore is a derogatory term. provider, sex worker, prostitute.... but you always focus on the most disrespectful and mean spirited of them all. why do you hate women so much?

This website is about bringing men and women together. being insulting and derogatory and calling them old or fat or whores... you have to accept that fact that you will be also described as old and fat and a misogynist. I don't think you can have it both ways sir. Is it disrespectful... kinda, but no more than you are to them and other posters. treat others as you would wish to be treated. you've been quoting the rules and the guidelines a fair amount lately. quote that one...

No one's outing you... they are describing you... to a T. stop being such a hater. Running people down in coed doesnt drive business for ECCIE. It's just a drama trainwreck for people to read while bored. Women and Men wanting to fuck and get paid/pay drives Eccie. imo of course

back to the show...

I become amused when I see Whispers bring up the 'Houston Effect'.

The mistake that is often made is the mistaking of fact for opinion and opinion for fact.

While it is a fact the a woman is/is not a whore based on her own representation of herself on this board. It is an opinion that Whispers is a misogynist.

Then, there are the perception comments. I can call a provider a fat whore and be correct factually and perceptively........my perception (from her photos or other means) is that she is fat, and her AD proves she is a whore.

Many of you place expectations on your local modtards based on your own perceptions and opinions. They do not have a directive from ownership to moderate in that way.

The word 'fiefdom' is occasionally bantered about in regards to the way modtards used to view their local areas of responsibility.

Whispers wants Austin to be more like Houston. That is not possible. The way Houston is was built on the backs of retards willing to take the points and the bans to create the open board that you see there.

When the mass move happened to here from ASPD, the ECCIE Houston modtards were not ready for the change from the polite society that was. Many of us took the points and the bans to make the Houston modtards back off.........and yes, local assholes put them to the wheel.

Whispers can't force the Wakeup's, boardman's and Spiceitup's of Austin to come forward and post. For him to imply that they are somehow being silenced would be disingenuous. If they can be silenced that easily, they don't deserve a voice.

You counter Whisper's mistake with a critical mistake of your own when you look to the modtards to sanction or muzzle Whispers. You ask them to play right into Whisper's hand. Mokoa has been here with you forever........he knows exactly what he can and cannot do in regards to Whispers. It does not take a genius to realize that your newer modtards have done the history searches regarding administrative conversations concerning Whispers, and they know the line.

Trust me when I say this.........there is nothing they would not like more than to be the modtard who banned Whispers........the only event that is of a higher importance to them is.......there is nothing that they fear more than being the modtard who banned Whispers and was forced by the powers that be to reverse that ban..........Whispers would never allow them to forget it.

You retards play Whispers wrong from the start. Whispers looks for assholes where none exist.

You are both doomed to failure........but, it makes for a great show.

but, it makes for a great show. Originally Posted by dearhunter

It does!

The mistake that is often made is the mistaking of fact for opinion and opinion for fact ... You are both doomed to failure........but, it makes for a great show. Originally Posted by dearhunter

Ah thinck yew sound laik sum kinda prophet o' tha hobby gods! When yew gonna dee-mand a sacri-fish-ul taint on tha altar?

That is my job.

Well, yer flounderin' at it, buckaroo.