You Get What You Pay For

Like many others, my disposable income for the hobby is restricted. I simply can't afford the 200-500 beauties. I'm happy for the the ladies that can command that high market value...and I'm envious that there are some hobbyists that can afford their company. But it's simply not in the cards for me. Thank God for quality providers like Mya and Allie that make it possible for hobbyists like me to have the privilege of enjoying their company. They may charge less... but their giving nature and big hearts make them priceless in my eyes.

In general you get what you pay for in life, but I'm not sure it holds true in the hobby. I remember one particularly hideous encounter I had years ago with a visiting HDH. She was even well reviewed in other cities, but the mileage varied greatly for me. She had a horrible attitude and didn't provide what was promised.

The value of this site is that a hobbyist can identify the providers he wants to see based on more info than simply cost.

I can't really provide a "hobbyists" POV on this but I can provide an outsiders POV though. From what I've seen the months that I've been spending on here and just reading is that the $250+ providers usually end up with the most favorable reviews. Not saying that it's concrete proof, just pointing out what I've noticed and I've also noticed that almost 90% of the reviews in the agency forum are positive whereas it's about 60% in the indy's. Again nothing scientific here just my observations, so that's why when I made the decision to try it out I looked in agency direction and did my research there. Now whether or not I choose an agency is still up for debate, I've made my choice for the top 2 girls so we'll see what happens

if a lady is low volume & has good rates she ends up seeing the same guys which in the end makes it better for us both. Gives you more time to find the level of fun you both enjoy. Originally Posted by Cheaper2buyit

Precisely....I have seen several do exactly this and end up UTR...which also adds to the level of safety.

I wish I had transfer my old reviews then you would see what can happen. There are as many types of hobby guys as ladies. There are guys who need a woman. There are guys who want to get a way from the bitch at home. There are who like freaky things. There are guys who want a girl to fuck them with a strap-on & beat them. & there is me who just likes sex with different woman & don't won't to break hearts or want to talk to them the next day. I just want great sex & to have no holes bared if it happens.

This POV is coming from a 20 year SD, dancer OTC & UTR guy. The amount of money I have spent has had little to do with the quality or quantity of service I've received.

Like Sens55, I found my favorite, hottest, and most eager to please SB making $9 an hour at a Dillons deli. I paid her rent, utilities, and a few hundred a month for 2-3 multi hour meetings a week. Most of which were overnights. This went on for over 2 years and we still meet behind her BF's back from time to time. This compared to the $1500 a week SB I recently got rid of who after 6 months still couldn't give head without teeth marks. Sad thing was she thought she was the greatest and hottest.

I consider all adult entertainment providers a service industry and it's always "buyer beware". I agree with Allie "just make sure you research a lady really well to make sure that you feel satisfied with the results".

I only which there was a place to read reviews on SB's and OTC dancers But that's for another thread.

I don't normally post in co-ed, but I'll post in this thread

I'm below average but for a reason. But, it may have an impact on those that see me. I had a client tell me during a session that he normally doesn't see girls that are less than $200 an hour because he felt their standards were lower. When I asked him about me, he said it was different.
My donation is lower not because I have lower standards or won't give you what your looking for, but because I'd prefer a client to come back and see me often and with my donations at what they are, they can. Originally Posted by Graceutr

Situation is the same but in my area my rates are more the avg. Though I have been told I should raise mine...I, for now and fine with mine for a few other reasons but the biggest is due to the avg of my area and I've had guys tell me I should teach classes on things I do so my skills are nowhere near avg and can compete with if not exceed many charging double triple or quadruple. But hey if I were in vegas or nyc or something like that things meaning my rates would be different.

My rates aren't just based on the quality of service that I give but also what it requires for me to come to a certain location. If I am seeing regular clients then I can usually discount my rates because I don't have to pay for advertising.

Even when I go through a rate change, I try to give the gentleman who have seen me at least a few times before my rate change the same rate before.

I prefer Quality vs. Quantity. At most I will see three Gentleman. I prefer regulars and guys that I can just be myself around!

I have noticed even when I offer a Killer special I don't get the same business as when I charge my normal rates.

I agree with the concept to some extent, as I've had more bad experiences at the low end of the rate spectrum than the high. However as has been mentioned it really depends on the girl and the reasons she's set her rate where she has. In the end I've been happiest with the "middle" girls- where the rate is high enough that she's not having to see a huge number of guys but low enough I can repeat and feel good about the service/value.

Although I have never indulged in rock bottom rates, I have experience from $$ to $$$$. Some of the lower end rate right up there with the higher. But I do know, when indulging in higher I expect more. And if I am disappointed my frustration level has a direct correlation to how much I donated.

For me if a lady is low volume & has good rates she ends up seeing the same guys which in the end makes it better for us both. Gives you more time to find the level of fun you both enjoy. Plus we can go to fun places like the strip clubs. Originally Posted by Cheaper2buyit

I couldn't agree more with you on this point. At my rate I do get a lot of repeat business and I really do enjoy the clients that come back.

As many have pointed out, some of the best 'deals' are UTR or Indies that have a side gig. They're doing it for the fun and a little extra money on the side. I had a girl like that for a year or so that wasn't really a SD/SB thing, but more of a "I really need a change, so come over when hubby is gone" type thing. The only reason she wanted the money was because it made her feel "dirty" and she liked it...to each their own. But she was perfect. It was occasional, she was hot, she did EVERYTHING and wanted to try new things. Time wasn't an issue and she only wanted $100 for an meeting, which was usually multi-hour and once she made a biz trip with me.

Another girl who's retired but many guys on here would fill her dance card for months if she came back, started out at $200 and only raised it when she literally couldn't keep up demand....

But unfortunately there are far too many episodes for me to count where other girls in that range were rip offs, druggies, pimped out or otherwise a complete waste of time.

HDH's generally tend to be hotter in looks (on average, not everyone) and that is their main claim to their higher amounts. Again, not all. But you won't find many homely girls demanding high dollars. If looks are your main draw, then that's usually a safer route. And many of them provide an unbelievable "experience", which is more than just sex, but a really awesome environment coupled with a real understanding of how to make a man feel like Superman (not that I need much encouragement... ) In those instances you've really scored a homerun, regardless of the rates.

Unfortunately many other girls in the same range have attitudes, think they walk on water and they suffer from GPS and act like they're doing you a favor by allowing them in their presence. I've had one go so far as to tell me that I was below her "normal" standards because she dated a governor and a senator and a NFL player....like I gave a shit (after I was finished and was cleaning up). She acted like she was so educated that she had to speak slowly so I'd understand her "big" words. I didn't bother to bore her with my academic credentials. She just assumed because I was a laid back guy who prefers jeans to suits (I have to wear them enough at the office) that I was a redneck. It was one of the all-time worst dates I've ever had. And she wasn't even good in bed. She just laid there. By the time I left all the make-up in the world couldn't hide her ugliness.

The big difference was I spent well over $500 on that date...and felt REALLY pissed as it was a complete waste of time and money. If I had a similarly bad experience at $150, I'd be bummed, but I'd be less upset because you expect at that rate to get a few lemons. But when you have a bad HDH date, it's unexpected because you truly EXPECT a great time. As with anything, with a higher rate comes higher expectations....and if they're not lived up to by one, it sours it for others.

BTW Cheaper....are you feeling OK? You've been unusually comprehendable lately...

I think that "You get what you pay for" is a rather empty phrase, at least in terms of this particular hobby.

However, I do believe that you generally pay for what you get (even if it's 'free' you still pay - one way or another).

Lower rates dont mean poorly skilled, ugly, or desperate. I have seen a few 'High Dollar Hookers' who were not particularly clean, not particularly attractive up close and definetly not skilled.

Competitive prices are good for the consumer. :0)

Well, maybe I'm just cranky today but the OP's post kind of pisses me off. What's the point you're trying to make? Guy's should spend as much money as possible? Ladies that charge less really don't deliver the goods and aren't worth the bother? Sounds kind of snooty to me.

As someone already pointed out, many men simply can't afford a $400.00 date, unless he wants to restrict himself to only a few dates a year. I'm not a hobby dynamo so I don't have the experience of others but my experience has been that I'll feel satisfied no matter the amount I spend as long as I do research and pick ladies that have good reps.

I mainly see massage ladies and there are plenty of very good ones here who charge reasonable amounts although charges do vary. I've seen several that charge at the higher end and they provided good value. But the lower cost ladies also did a good job. I was equally satisfied by both. The point is that I did research. No way I'm going to spend money on someone like Becky or Kasey because it's well established they're rip-offs.

The bottom line is that the lower cost ladies can be a very good experience. One just has to do research to find the gems. I think that they're very smart to cultivate regulars that can more often see them due to lower price. I'm sure most ladies will tell you that they'd much rather see regulars than be constantly dealing with new customers.