Actually Roadman...

I have no dog in this fight.. don't care either way..since i don't know either party..
he said his piece...she said hers.. the rest could mostly be handled thru pm..

you obviously have a following.. focus on those instead of the negative..and the hobbyiest should move forward as well


Roadman,
You also never told me where you were driving from or I would have asked that you call me before you left. Originally Posted by MsMiaMaxwell
how did you not know where he was from if you screened him properly?

Why would you NOT call someone before you left if you were driving that far??
in his defense perhaps because he assumed the date was made and confirmed and if a problem came up on your end it would be your place to contact him



I did forget to call you back.For that I apologize. I got busy with my kids and completely forgot. When I logged on to send you a pm to apologize,
why not call him directly and apologize? why log on to pm? life does happen..everyone has kids, but you also made an appointment that YOU were not able to keep.. no matter the circumstances..in the real working world there are consequences for missing appointments etc..this is still a J.O.B with paying customers.. its your first priority business wise to make sure appointments are cancelled..arrangements are made to make it up etc..thats your place since its your end that got screwed up..not his place.. your first worry is of course family..always.. but a call has to be made..

I had a pm from someone else about the review you wrote.
gotta love WK's



however..it is the potential paying customers place if he so choses to burn that bridge..to write of his negative experience..is it generally accepted to give time? perhaps.. however that has been leaned on to much and unfortunately you bare the consequences of to many flaky girls burning to many paying guys.. not saying you are flaky..you obviously have fans and are reputable.. however.. to often guys get burned and are quicker to post of negative experiences because they grow tired of the "kid" excuses that are used all to often..

its also his place as a customer to not allow any room to fudge.. he was out effort and trip..only to find out it wasn't happening.. understand from his side....your kids, your life is not his problem (not saying this hobbyiest feels this way)..to him..your life doesn't trump his just as his doesn't trump yours.. for every problem you had involving sitters..he had making that trip.. so he is entitled to his thoughts and opinions.. and perhaps he doesn't wanna do a make up session..maybe he does.. perhaps he can't utilize more time with you..but would rather be reimbursed his expense of travel.. cheaper hourly rate.. etc etc.. all could have been offered if a phone call..instead of a PM was sent.. in a timiely manner
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  • 12-29-2010, 01:05 AM
Absolutely Giz! You're deserving anyways...do you know I was looking at my old AS*D reviews on ER*APS the other day and you talked about meeting me in my very first review. That was almost FOUR years ago and we have yet to meet. I'd say that's worthy of an incredible make-up session...to make-up for lost time. We may need several days to make up for four years, though Originally Posted by MsMiaMaxwell
I hear ya, DeAnna.... can't argue.... but honestly , Mia.... you gotta deal!
I'll be in touch...

Giz
Roadman... Here is a hint...

PM her with apologizes, and DROP IT.

No matter what you may think, this is ONLY making YOU look bad.

Nothing personal, Just some advise.

My .02
Roadman,
Well, you're wrong about your references, first of all, because while you didn't you use her as a ref. someone did tell me what you tried to do to her when she saw you, after your "review" of me went up yesterday.But one would expect you to deny that because it makes you look bad.

I didn't have a missed call from you at 2pm, but did talk to you around 2:40. I already apologized twice for not calling you back after talking to you at 2:40, because that was my fault, but anyone with common sense would try to call back at least once before driving over 50 miles to go back home if they haven't heard back from a Lady they are waiting to see. And then you wrote the review almost immediately after arriving back home. A non-review which, according to rule #24, isn't even supposed to be allowed.

You handled the situation badly and showed that you have no compassion or understanding at all.

My advice to the ladies of ECCIE would be to avoid Roadman like the plague.
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Roadman,
Well, you're wrong about your references, first of all, because while you didn't you use her as a ref. someone did tell me what you tried to do to her when she saw you, after your "review" of me went up yesterday.But one would expect you to deny that because it makes you look bad.

I didn't have a missed call from you at 2pm, but did talk to you around 2:40. I already apologized twice for not calling you back after talking to you at 2:40, because that was my fault, but anyone with common sense would try to call back at least once before driving over 50 miles to go back home if they haven't heard back from a Lady they are waiting to see. And then you wrote the review almost immediately after arriving back home. A non-review which, according to rule #24, isn't even supposed to be allowed.

You handled the situation badly and showed that you have no compassion or understanding at all.

My advice to the ladies of ECCIE would be to avoid Roadman like the plague. Originally Posted by MsMiaMaxwell

appears he got screwed after all
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I admit i made a mistake. I should have never made an appointment with Mia.
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I admit i made a mistake. I should have never made an appointment with Mia. Originally Posted by roadman
Roadman, I know it sucks when u look forward to something and it doesn't pan out but ur handling this poorly. Take Mr Marks advise, apologize and move on cuz at this rate , the hole it digging urself will reach China in a matter of hours. Just some advice, take it or leave it.
I have no dog in this fight.. don't care either way..since i don't know either party..
he said his piece...she said hers.. the rest could mostly be handled thru pm..

you obviously have a following.. focus on those instead of the negative..and the hobbyiest should move forward as well

This thread wouldn't be here had he given me a little time to handle this privately.


how did you not know where he was from if you screened him properly?

Because it was not necessary to ask him where he was from. How I screen is none of your business anyways.



in his defense perhaps because he assumed the date was made and confirmed and if a problem came up on your end it would be your place to contact him


It's not YOUR place to defend him.


why not call him directly and apologize? Because it was a little later that afternoon when I realized I had forgotten to call him back and IMO it's unprofessional to call clients unannounced. Yes, I had already spoken with him on the phone, but I realized by that point he must have made it home.....and guess what, some of these guys are married.
why log on to pm? life does happen..everyone has kids, but you also made an appointment that YOU were not able to keepI did have an appointment scheduled...for 10AM WEDNESDAY(TODAY) morning. I did the best I could to accommodate him when HE called ME to reschedule. I've had one client cancel and reschedule on me TWICE this month after I had already arranged a sitter and once rescheduled another appt. to accomodate his schedule. Not once did I have the urge to post an alert on him for having inconvenienced me and cost me money. Why? Because I understand that life happens and have compassion and understanding for the people I do business with. I've seen this Gent 3 times since then with no problems. Sometimes you just have to give people a chance. .. no matter the circumstances..in the real working world there are consequences for missing appointments etc..this is still a J.O.B with paying customers.. its your first priority business wise to make sure appointments are cancelled..arrangements are made to make it up etc..thats your place since its your end that got screwed up..not his place.. your first worry is of course family..always.. but a call has to be made..
Thanks for the lesson on how to run my business. I was completely unaware that I deal with paying customers. I had no idea that this was a J.O.B. For the past 5 years I've been thinking that this whole business was just fun and games.


gotta love WK's



however..it is the potential paying customers place if he so choses to burn that bridge..to write of his negative experience..is it generally accepted to give time? perhaps.. however that has been leaned on to much and unfortunately you bare the consequences of to many flaky girls burning to many paying guys.. not saying you are flaky..you obviously have fans and are reputable.. however.. to often guys get burned and are quicker to post of negative experiences because they grow tired of the "kid" excuses that are used all to often..
The "Kids" excuse? My children are not excuses. Whatever past problems a client may have had with a provider, he has no business holding it against the providers he sees in the future. If I held my problems with one client against every client I saw, I would be out of business. If more people in this Hobby played by that rule, we would all probably have a little more fun.

its also his place as a customer to not allow any room to fudge.. he was out effort and trip..only to find out it wasn't happening.. understand from his side....your kids, your life is not his problem (not saying this hobbyiest feels this way)..to him..your life doesn't trump his just as his doesn't trump yours.. for every problem you had involving sitters..he had making that trip.. so he is entitled to his thoughts and opinions.. and perhaps he doesn't wanna do a make up session..maybe he does.. perhaps he can't utilize more time with you..but would rather be reimbursed his expense of travel.. cheaper hourly rate.. etc etc.. all could have been offered if a phone call..instead of a PM was sent.. in a timiely mannerReimbursement for the trip made? Are my clients going to start reimbursing me for appts. lost when they cancel??? If this is something that is done in this business, I've been missing out. Extra time on a future appt. would have been offered had he given me time to contact him, as I've already stated. How is it that I can offer him something to make-up over the phone but not via PM? I was making an attempt to respect his privacy. I had forgotten to call him right back(AGAIN MY FAULT) and figured he had made it home by the time I remembered. Most clients don't want providers calling their phones randomly. Again, the man may be married. A pm is more discrete and has the same effect. Originally Posted by DeAnna Luv
Perhaps next time I should just take my children along when someone decides they need to reschedule their appt.?

Yes, he in entitled to his opinion, but don't you think a little understanding would also have been okay?

Why do providers feel the need to do this to other providers publicly? Do you think it does something to make you look better by trying to make another provider look bad?

PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD, MODS. This has gone far enough.
I mostly stay out of all the coed discussion but I can not hold my tounge here. Mia, please don't worry about Deanna or think you owe her any type of explanation. Some people just get off on thinking that they may have affected your day! YOU are not the one who looks bad here (at least not to anyone with any common sense)!

I think you have a lot of class with the way you handle things and you are very smart and sweet!

Have a good night and forget about all this crap love!
Take Mr Marks advise, apologize and move on cuz at this rate , the hole it digging urself will reach China in a matter of hours. Originally Posted by jon5150
Why do you guys have to bring me into this?!!!??
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It was only a matter of hours and China was reached
Just as Jon said it would
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I didnt think you could do a review unless u actually saw the person. ????
Mia anyone that is aquainted with you .. knows your a highly reputable & respected girl Originally Posted by Sweet N Little
That depends on the region and the mod for the region and how they have decided to handle dropped appointments by both clients and escorts--for the record, I think men should be held accountable just like the ladies when a pattern of NCNS emerges.

I am not sure why you are so upset about this. Think of it this way--it is better than having an emblazoned NCNS ALERT attached to your name.

It sounds like this was really just poor communication between the two of you, and not anything so unusual that a bad review or alert should have been written.

On the other hand, it has to be documented someplace so that if a pattern is there, folks can make their own informed decision.

Look, we all have lives and as the insurance company slogan says, sometimes life comes at you fast. With that said, folks really shouldn't get themselves in a tizzy over one report of a NCNS or other dropped appointment. They have nothing to fear, if they learn from their mistake. People will see the report or review of a dropped appointment and evaluate it within the context of the larger research out there.

However, if this becomes a fairly regular thing--guess what? You might need to adjust things. Get a new babysitter. Get a better phone. Take steps to be proactive so that you either don't miss an appointment or become a chronically tardy provider.

Time management and clear communication is the sign of a professional. If you want to be treated like one, you need to sorta act like one.
I think a few years worth of reviews on several boards attest to my level of professionalism. Thanks for the advice, though. You did make some very valid points.
Could someone please close this thread???????