Moving from good experience to GFE.

I'd rather have a great physical connection and an "experience" of like minds. I really don't like gfe because it can sometimes turn into unrealistic expectations and cause problems. It's not real. It's role playing. Like any other area in life, too kind, too nice, too accommodating, too it's all about you (very unreal) can lead to dependency and not knowing when to give a person space and freedom. To me gfe should be left to reality because some clients do not know how to leave gfe at the door when they go home. Some try to monopolize an escorts time at all hours of the day. I learned after talking openly with people about their sexuality that not only can a person have a sex addiction but they can have a love addiction. I never realized this. Whether love addiction or loneliness or simply not being able to break the connection after a great experience can be very waring on an escort. Originally Posted by summerwaves

Your comment is very true and on target. I have experienced exactly what you are talking about this addiction and it took me a while to realize it and take this hobby for what it really is.

Thank you for your wise and insightful words

Thanks to SW and Quail for the insightful comments. I've heard Jack refer to GFE as "Good Friend Experience", and that helps me understand how to draw the line.

IMO, the degree of GFE experience is most dependent on the connection and level of comfort that you develop with the provider before the festivities begin. Lighten the mood, chat, make her laugh, allow both of you to relax. Behave like you would if you were with your girlfriend, and she'll likely respond in kind. Sit close, flirt, lean in and show "open," inviting body language. Conversely, if you seem nervous, uptight or OCD, she is likely to pick up that vibe as well, and the likelihood of the GFE experience goes way down. Also if you try to jump right into the action, that, in my experience, seems to diminish the GFE as well, and results in an experience that most would describe as "mechanical." Most providers will make the first move, or display body language that will tell you "it's time to start" when they feel that comfort level, so don't worry about that. They know why you're there and it will happen.

Some providers are GFE with everyone, but most YMMV. Don't forget that they are all women, often operating based upon their feelings, or the vibe that you throw off. Understand this, and it is my experience that the likelihood of a sincere GFE (not to mention positive mileage) will increase exponentially.

I like it neversoft

you got some good points

Oh how I miss Pepsi and Ming, form Puja. They where so great at letting it be all about ME ME ME ME ME ME

back to topic: very good statement summerwaves

edit: MMMMM and a example of her statement in red. Both over the top unreal. But how can one not love how they would dry you even between your toes.
Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

I bet you didn't call them 3 times a day everyday. I bet you didn't crave attention through constant e-mails. I bet you didn't get mad when they saw someone else. I bet you didn't follow them around. I bet you didn't get mad when they advertised. I bet you didn't tell them you didn't want them seeing anyone else. Yes, it should be "all about the client" but the client has to accept it ends at the end of a session. Some clients are not even friendly and some don't want it to end to the point of treating an escort like a girlfriend or wife!!! There has to be an in between!!!!!

Your comment is very true and on target. I have experienced exactly what you are talking about this addiction and it took me a while to realize it and take this hobby for what it really is.

Thank you for your wise and insightful words Originally Posted by quail

Yes, you must (take it for what it is). No one should be getting hurt. It's all about helping. To me this is a profession no different than any other physical or mental health profession.....except perhaps it's more fun!

I sincerely hope you are doing well and not letting yourself go overboard with your feelings. If you ever want to write me, please do.

I bet you didn't call them 3 times a day everyday. I bet you didn't crave attention through constant e-mails. I bet you didn't get mad when they saw someone else. I bet you didn't follow them around. I bet you didn't get mad when they advertised. I bet you didn't tell them you didn't want them seeing anyone else. Yes, it should be "all about the client" but the client has to accept it ends at the end of a session. Some clients are not even friendly and some don't want it to end to the point of treating an escort like a girlfriend or wife!!! There has to be an in between!!!!! Originally Posted by summerwaves

sorry you had me thinking over the top unreal. Now I'm thinking some one out and out did you wrong. And that is very sad. Sorry to hear this.

Once when Mickey offered me both for my birthday. I right there asked her to marry me. But she wisely smacked me on my ass, pushed me in to the room with both waiting and said no way, now get in there and have fun. I did not push the marriage thing, a no is a NO.

it is sad some one did this to you.

NeverSoft... you probably hardly ever have a bad experience.... but then again you are a joy to be with!! I couldn't agree with your post more!!

For my self, I like to sit down and chat with the gent, get a true feel for who they are and what they want out of our "friendship". To be able to relax, enjoy a glass of wine, coffee, soda, latte or whatever and then continue on, is far more of a connection then the gents that come in, make it like pulling teeth to talk and then just up and leave after 15 mins. Now don't get me wrong, its nice to get a quickie and not deal with the non sense of the gent over staying, but I rather give a extra time, enjoy and remember the gent then be rushed or feel like communication is not part of GFE. But like I said thats IMHO.

NeverSoft... you probably hardly ever have a bad experience.... but then again you are a joy to be with!! I couldn't agree with your post more!!

For my self, I like to sit down and chat with the gent, get a true feel for who they are and what they want out of our "friendship". To be able to relax, enjoy a glass of wine, coffee, soda, latte or whatever and then continue on, is far more of a connection then the gents that come in, make it like pulling teeth to talk and then just up and leave after 15 mins. Now don't get me wrong, its nice to get a quickie and not deal with the non sense of the gent over staying, but I rather give a extra time, enjoy and remember the gent then be rushed or feel like communication is not part of GFE. But like I said thats IMHO. Originally Posted by BrookeButtons

Seems like there are 2 sides to this GFE thing.

Side #1: In order to achieve GFE, well, logically....I think that you have to take a few minutes to appreciate the lady you are with. Any woman, I'm certain, likes to be treated special, to know that the man is paying attention to her, and truly wants to be with her. This, I think, sets the stage for GFE, whether you are a provider or not.

Conversation and small talk may seem boring to some guys, but my experience has shown that it is CRITICAL to a woman, and her sense that we, as men, appreciate them as something other than a walking vagina.

GFE will never be the same, either with the same woman or mutiple women. It isn't necessarily YMMV, it's how much time and effort that we as men put into making the lady we are with feel.

The largest sex organ, guys...is NOT between your legs, after all. For myself, I've always been convinced that if you are capable of having sex within the other person's mind, the entire physical experience is FAR greater and, well..... mindblowing ....... if you will.





Side #2: If all you want is to get your nut off, then go troll Lyell Ave.




elg......

Side #2: If all you want is to get your nut off, then go troll Lyell Ave. Originally Posted by elghund

No, pick a provider that you like. See if she is willing and can do so. And would not bring any hardship to her. And have your quick stops with her. Having all your soft long loving, rougher(within reason), PSE, etc. With one or a few providers, now that is GFE or GWE. And part of the reason I keep to 3 or 4. I get out of work at 2AM. I see a few allot. So much that the I NEED IT NOW will be put up with. OK so last night I lost out. But most of the time 1 of 3 give me a , "yes I need a slam bang thank you right now also". PICK your ATF with care.

AND KEEP OFF THE STREETS. STREETS ARE NOT FOR PLAY.

And do not try to make a provider a AFT of yours if she is not willing or have the time to put up with you.

no is no, leave me alone is leave me alone, and go way stop bothering me is just that. But a yes I can deal with that from you . mmmm guess I do not see GFE the same as most, oh well.

Just pay her well, see allot. Crap now I got to move a bed tonight. Aw don't worry I will pay you. Money is not what I want. We'll see if I can make you feel better. If not take what I offer.

but then I have no SO (edit add)?????????

No, pick a provider that you like. See if she is willing and can do so. And would not bring any hardship to her. And have your quick stops with her. Having all your soft long loving, rougher(within reason), PSE, etc. With one or a few providers, now that is GFE or GWE. And part of the reason I keep to 3 or 4. I get out of work at 2AM. I see a few allot. So much that the I NEED IT NOW will be put up with. OK so last night I lost out. But most of the time 1 of 3 give me a , "yes I need a slam bang thank you right now also". PICK your ATF with care.

AND KEEP OFF THE STREETS. STREETS ARE NOT FOR PLAY.

And do not try to make a provider a AFT of yours if she is not willing or have the time to put up with you.

no is no, leave me alone is leave me alone, and go way stop bothering me is just that. But a yes I can deal with that from you . mmmm guess I do not see GFE the same as most, oh well.

Just pay her well, see allot. Crap now I got to move a bed tonight. Aw don't worry I will pay you. Money is not what I want. We'll see if I can make you feel better. If not take what I offer.

but then I have no SO Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

I'd say +1........


.....but that would not give you the proper credit for the wisdom you show.




elg.....

Thats ok, most guy will not move a bed for a provider. And is part of seeing a provider is, NO honey do list. But as I am single the honey do list some how has become part of the game for me. Nope not for all at all. No need for a +1, as not all will or can do as I.

. mmmm guess I do not see GFE the same as most, oh well.
Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

GFE is in the mind of the beholder, no?


elg......

yes

as in all should find and buy then drink there own poison. From a willing retailer!!!