Censorship?

MODs are supposed to be transparent in their actions in the threads they edit. However, RTMing something yields zero feedback ever.

Public threads have been known to generate interest that eventually yields public responses....

A lot of you folks are helpful in that sense as you hate what I have to say so much ya can't keep from banging away on the RTM button or sending messages.....

If you notice he goes around calling people ethnic names in posts also. Originally Posted by Mike Vronsky

Whatcha referring to there Dante?

Pollack or Pollock? Common surnames and asking you is not different than asking a white guy if he's a "smith".....

Drop an "l" from the word and you MIGHT have something...... but then again there is the argument in regards to how a word is used.....

You try so hard and whine so much..... always failing......

Meh... No harm no foul

Unfortunately I can't repost the meme, but anyone who saw it knows that there was absolutely nothing racist about the meme, the meme didn't even have anything to do with AA's, it was making fun of guys who act like jack asses in front of the camera which was very relevant to the subject of the thread that it was posted in. For those in this thread who are barking about racial slurs and being offended, please know what is going on before you open your mouths, uninformed people with opinions is never a good mix.

The context that the word was used in that meme had nothing to do with racism, it was used as a synonymous term for "Dudes", "Fellas", "homeboys", etc. etc. I am fully aware that racial slurs are not permitted that goes without saying. I figured on a board like this folks would be a little less uptight and use common sense, but apparently not.

From what I gather Mr. SpiceitUp knew that I was not being racist, I am sure he could have came down a little harder on me but chose not to. I wouldn't even call what he did a slap on the wrist, it was more of a "Please tone it down a little" response. We wished each other a happy new year and moved on, I have no issues with his handling of my post, which explains my next post in the thread. I simply laughed it off, if I'm gonna get on a mods bad side it's not gonna be over a stupid meme. Originally Posted by Little Monster

I did something similar a few months ago...using the word in the same context as you. It was also edited out by a different MOD.

To me that shows ABSOLUTE consistency from one Mod to another.

Much ado about nothing, and OPs agenda should not be a mystery to anyone here.

OPs agenda should not be a mystery to anyone here. Originally Posted by Toyz

Agenda?

Well at least it's a consistent one and not unique to any single MOD....... I've started threads questioning the actions of MODs dozens of times...... More times than not they led to something changing in how a MOD handles the relevant subject in the future.....

[QUOTE=Whispers;1057637762]Agenda?

Well at least it's a consistent one and not unique to any single MOD...QUOTE]

True...You launched a Character Assassination against Trees19 & threatened FFireman (which got you banned).

You launch Agendas against MODS who don't cow tow to you...

So, based on that, I agree with your consistent premise.

LOL? I was "banned" for threatening FFireman?

You are almost as clueless as your protégé Dante.....

LOL? I was "banned" for threatening FFireman?

You are almost as clueless as your protégé Dante..... Originally Posted by Whispers

Just keeping the community aware of your intentions, WhixxZy... Some may not tie all the posturing to the agenda.

And honestly...think about it for a second...WHO is clueless?

*Christmas Tax Evasion scam blown up
*Got yourself banned
*Lost favor of the board, hardly anyone comes to your defense anymore
*Have MODs overruling your decisions/opinions consistently
*Had your posse stripped or rendered virtually impotent

Whos clueless again?

Just keeping the community aware of your intentions, WhixxZy... Some may not tie all the posturing to the agenda.

And honestly...think about it for a second...WHO is clueless?

*Got yourself banned
*Lost favor of the board, hardly anyone comes to your defense anymore
*Have MODs overruling your decisions/opinions consistently
*Had your posse stripped or rendered virtually impotent

Whos clueless again? Originally Posted by Toyz

These would seem to apply to you as well, Toyz.... ijs

If you are so confident and self-assured, why the constant need to stroke Whispers' ego (or cawk... hard to tell with some of your threads of late...)

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These would seem to apply to you as well, Toyz.... ijs

If you are so confident and self-assured, why the constant need to stroke Whispers' ego (or cawk... hard to tell with some of your threads of late...)

z Originally Posted by ztonk

On Queue. Could you even TRY to not be so obvious?

I don't think we have a guideline that addresses any specific words. It would be a very simple guideline to add and very easy to enforce if there was wouldn't you agree?



I don't believe "words" alone should be banned. I know it's the easier way to moderate and if society took that approach and we simply outlawed everything that some segment of society found offensive the world would lose a lot of color. (not referring to color of different races) Originally Posted by Whispers

I understand the sentiment but it sounds a lot like you're trying to argue that people should be allowed to use racial slurs. It's a false equivalence to compare removing racial slurs to outlawing "everything that some segment of society" finds offensive. Let's not get hyperbolic shall we?

Racial slurs are so culturally loaded and inherently offensive that they lead to conflict and they're just not suitable except perhaps in an extremely narrow purpose such as this rules discussion right here.

Also, for the record, I'm obviously unconcerned with what's easier to moderate don't you think? If I were I'd just do nothing or if I did I wouldn't bother to say why I do what I do or respond to threads like this.

I am sure it's been used. Just because YOU have removed the word numerous times does not mean it's been the right thing to do. You are not infallible are you? It takes a couple of seconds to enter the word in the search engine and have a list of results. If you believe so much in it have it it.... It won't be the first time MODs in San Antonio and New York have been focused on the wrong things.... Surprisingly there are a number of hits in Dallas..... Looks like ya missed a pretty blatant use of it in Houston....

Heck there is this thread http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1057292625

where it's used and there is MOD as well as Admin participation in the thread....

Take a look..... Even in Houston there are are threads... One where an Admin locked a thread that was bumped nad the post bumping used the word... NO edit of censorship from DED http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1052400919 Ya might ask him why he's not handling things the right way.... Originally Posted by Whispers

More tu quoque? It demonstrates nothing other than a less than 100% removal rate and the fact that moderators are human. If they even noticed the slurs then you'd have to ask those mods why they were left in place.

Of course I'm not infallible, when have I suggested that? You pointed out a couple of threads I missed in Houston, congrats. My point in mentioning my own removals of them in the past was that if there are only 160 search returns it means either they're largely being removed by other mods as well or there have only been 160 instances of the "n" word used in over 6+ Years the site has been around. Which is more likely?

Also, what exactly ar you arguing for here? That racial slurs should be allowed? I'm confused.

Are you just trying to play "Gotcha" with me?

Can you please point to where it is forbidden? I don't think it is any different than the word whore is.

And on this board we seem to have a hell of a lot more people that get up in arms about the word whore being used then we do the "N" word.... Why is that do ya think? Originally Posted by Whispers

I cannot point to it but that's not because it isn't true it's because it's based on the precedent and clarifications of the guidelines behind the scenes. Racial slurs get removed from view. The guidelines as written are meant to be concise, the true detail on their application exists in staff areas. It's similar to case law and addendums in the judicial system.

I realize that's irritating not being able to see everything and know exactly what's what and I was always irritated by that as well as a member. That's why as a mod I try to be as clear and transparent as possible and make it part of my role to educate members about where the lines are drawn and hopefully why.

As to the rest, you're entitled to your opinions but the guidelines don't restrict usage of potentially derogatory terms towards men and women in general. They do restrict racial slur usage.

You're tilting at windmills here...

On Queue. Could you even TRY to not be so obvious? Originally Posted by Toyz

Toyz... I'm just doing what you paid me to do... keep sucking up to Whispers to validate your importance on the board. That is what you intended when you had our mutual friend give me that money order, right?

And just for the record, I'm with SpiceItUp on this issue. Which means I am agreeing with Toyz once again, as instructed.

z

Toyz... I'm just doing what you paid me to do... keep sucking up to Whispers to validate your importance on the board. That is what you intended when you had our mutual friend give me that money order, right?

And just for the record, I'm with SpiceItUp on this issue. Which means I am agreeing with Toyz once again, as instructed.

z Originally Posted by ztonk

The money order was to help with that sex change you've always wanted...to finish removing your balls.

Sometimes someone has to have a sense of humor about things that are so ironic that you just have to make fun of a post!!!

In post #12 of http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1592799 Little Monster posted a "meme" that included the word "nigga"

Spice removed it with the following comment"




The Guideline quoted deals with racial remarks but is typically enforced when a racial remark is targeted at a specific member that could be offended by it

Speeding is often overlooked until someone notices that someone was going too fast on their street, then all the neighbors are getting tickets. I guess you didn't notice that the N word does not happen in Houston(Hippo's old mud puddle) but the N word is used often recently in Dallas. The "I was driving at the same speed as everyone else" crap doesn't fly with the cop or the Judge.

Ask her how it worked out for her?


A search of the word "nigga" finds it existing in 160 posts at the moment including a discussion OF the word itself.

Funny for some but the discussion of the "N" word is different from shouting it out toward someone.



I may be wrong, but I believe the comment was directed at me and I was not offended nor am I of the race that might have been had it been directed at them.

You handle being called an old fat ass pretty well but if you call JadeRose a fat ass she starts banging on MOD button.



I might be wrong but I don't believe anyone else in the thread was AA and could have been the target of the comment/meme

Are you outing someone as being white? They take that shit seriously!!! On the other side why can't Google set a social standard buy not linking to it?



I believe Spice's actions were more "censorship" than moderation.

How do you know Spice is not AA and offended by the "N" word? Already doing recon on the new mod? Who is Ztonk fucking right now? is ha cock blocking anyone? Inquiring minds want to know!!!



Spice is new and more than a few believe he volunteered to help out in Austin because he desires to make a name for himself "cleaning up the place".....

New? Compared to the"white" fossil who is on a rant about having the "N" word graphic removed because it was used in an offensive manner? Really? Do you ever proof read what your words are really saying? Do you know what the thread count is on this one? Gotcha!!!



I don't think anyone has a problem with the concept of more "moderation" of Austin forums.

I believe the there are a couple of our MODS that need to be moved so they are non local and there are several opening in the Brokeback, Montana forum.



I don't believe though that this was moderation. It was censorship done in his initial "get noticed" phase.

I doubt he has a hard on for you but you may be just like JadeRose is toward the both of us. Try unrelentlessly PMing him all the time, I'm sure he won't start a thread about it.





Little Monster is a long time member of the Austin Community and not someone that tends to agree with me nor I him at times. He is NOT known to be racist or to disparage other's ethnic backgrounds in any manner.

I guess your not sharing pussy with LM?



The word is obviously allowed on the board as evidenced in a search and current use in other threads.
Yes, maybe so, was it used as a insulting manner or as a way to make racism less of a factor on the boards or society? OK, someone got caught speeding, was he ticketed? I guess so and you are WK'ing for him. Is your libido enhanced by this activity? Don't answer that



IMFFAHOSpice should restore the meme and apologize to Little Monster.

He should have thought about how fast he was going down the side-street.



IMFFAHO Spice's actions imply to you that Little Momster is a racist or was making a racist slur.
IMFFAHO Spice's comments are more damaging to Little Monster than the meme was to anyone in this community.


He has a "Dick " of his own, I doubt he is interested in yours. I would assume he can defend himself,, if not unless asked, why are you defending him?. Did he go on vacation due to this?



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!!!! Originally Posted by Whispers

World-wide politically correct post in 2016 (it's in the quotes):

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oh no, wait, all that white might offend somebody too, like the Eskimos

I actually enjoyed this version of overkill, Rand!

Good work...{{{SLOW GOLF CLAP}}}

I can hear John Wayne right now "Weeeelll are you gonna fuck me or stand there holding your dick?"...