Is The Dude suggesting a conspiracy? Originally Posted by boardmanIf he's not I will, spell it Soros self appointed emperor of the world. (Motherfucker)
- Seedy
- 01-27-2011, 02:22 PM
- BigLouie
- 01-27-2011, 10:30 PM
I was honestly expecting a little more out of Chrome rather than rant about this old story. While you might not like the Presidents policys at least be honest and rant on Congress of both parties.
Take health care. Corporate-funded front groups churned out a mess of lies to foment public opposition to Obama's modest insurance reform, demonizing it as a “government takeover” of our health care system. It was no such thing, but that hasn't stopped Republican lawmakers from making a theatrical show of trying to repeal Obama's reform and “save” the people from the horrors of socialized medicine.
Yet in all their blathering, none of them has offered to save themselves from the horrors of taxpayer-provided health care. Congress receives Cadillac coverage at our expense, plus they have their own in-house bevy of government doctors. Why don't they vote to eliminate this privileged bastion of socialism?
Less government? Less spending? Grow up. Each party wants power so they can spend on their projects and cut spending to everyone else's projects. It takes money and people with connections to get elected no matter what party you are in. If you are lucky enough to win those that helped want payback in some form or fashion. Simple as that.
Take health care. Corporate-funded front groups churned out a mess of lies to foment public opposition to Obama's modest insurance reform, demonizing it as a “government takeover” of our health care system. It was no such thing, but that hasn't stopped Republican lawmakers from making a theatrical show of trying to repeal Obama's reform and “save” the people from the horrors of socialized medicine.
Yet in all their blathering, none of them has offered to save themselves from the horrors of taxpayer-provided health care. Congress receives Cadillac coverage at our expense, plus they have their own in-house bevy of government doctors. Why don't they vote to eliminate this privileged bastion of socialism?
Less government? Less spending? Grow up. Each party wants power so they can spend on their projects and cut spending to everyone else's projects. It takes money and people with connections to get elected no matter what party you are in. If you are lucky enough to win those that helped want payback in some form or fashion. Simple as that.
- BigLouie
- 01-27-2011, 10:40 PM
Forgot to add that was from Jim Hightower. Here is some more to illustrate my point:
One thing is clear from November’s election results: Those new, tea-infused Republican lawmakers are going to end business-as-usual in Congress. As incoming Sen. Rand Paul so plainly put it: “We’ve come to take our government back.”
Ah, yes, a government “of the people,” at last! But as one corporate lobbyist said of the fresh-faced newcomers, “As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.”
Well, it didn’t take long. Just days after their election, even before they had been assigned office space at the Capitol, dozens of these so-called “citizen legislators” were holding lobbyist-sponsored fundraisers at various swank watering holes around Washington. They glad-handed and grinned as such special interests as ExxonMobil, Delta Air Lines and Wall Street bankers welcomed them by slipping thousands of dollars into each of their pockets.
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois was one. Back home, he was pledging to change Washington. Only two weeks after winning a House seat, however, Washington was changing him. He held a “debt retirement breakfast” at the Capitol Hill Club, gleefully greeting corporate influence peddlers who paid up to $5,000 each to curry favor with him. Exchanging winks, the lobbyists knew that business-as-usual was alive and well.
Then there’s Andy Harris of Maryland, a doctor who won a House seat on November 4 by denouncing Obamacare as socialized medicine. But six days later, Andy was in Washington asking, “Where’s mine?” At a briefing for newcomers, Harris was incredulous to learn that the socialized health coverage that Congress critters get wouldn’t kick in until four weeks after he took the oath of office.
Tell me again how this bunch is different? They’re not even in office yet, and they’re already playing the insider game like old pros.
One thing is clear from November’s election results: Those new, tea-infused Republican lawmakers are going to end business-as-usual in Congress. As incoming Sen. Rand Paul so plainly put it: “We’ve come to take our government back.”
Ah, yes, a government “of the people,” at last! But as one corporate lobbyist said of the fresh-faced newcomers, “As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.”
Well, it didn’t take long. Just days after their election, even before they had been assigned office space at the Capitol, dozens of these so-called “citizen legislators” were holding lobbyist-sponsored fundraisers at various swank watering holes around Washington. They glad-handed and grinned as such special interests as ExxonMobil, Delta Air Lines and Wall Street bankers welcomed them by slipping thousands of dollars into each of their pockets.
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois was one. Back home, he was pledging to change Washington. Only two weeks after winning a House seat, however, Washington was changing him. He held a “debt retirement breakfast” at the Capitol Hill Club, gleefully greeting corporate influence peddlers who paid up to $5,000 each to curry favor with him. Exchanging winks, the lobbyists knew that business-as-usual was alive and well.
Then there’s Andy Harris of Maryland, a doctor who won a House seat on November 4 by denouncing Obamacare as socialized medicine. But six days later, Andy was in Washington asking, “Where’s mine?” At a briefing for newcomers, Harris was incredulous to learn that the socialized health coverage that Congress critters get wouldn’t kick in until four weeks after he took the oath of office.
Tell me again how this bunch is different? They’re not even in office yet, and they’re already playing the insider game like old pros.
- DarthMaul
- 01-27-2011, 11:40 PM
There are (2) things that I don't discuss in public.....POLITICS AND RELIGION!
Now we can talk about SEX ALLLL DAY!
Now we can talk about SEX ALLLL DAY!
- gnadfly
- 01-28-2011, 05:18 AM
Good to see my chromey back posting. What, you don't believe the old chestnuts like we need to invest in 'green jobs', education, roads and bridges, R&D, internet for everyone, etc? You probably hate kittens too.
At least he didn't piss off a couple of Supreme Court Justices or have a congressman yell 'You lie!' this time. You're right, this guy is an idiot. At least the Demomedia is starting to call it. And that botoxed hag wasn't sitting behind him jumping up every third sentence applauding.
At least he didn't piss off a couple of Supreme Court Justices or have a congressman yell 'You lie!' this time. You're right, this guy is an idiot. At least the Demomedia is starting to call it. And that botoxed hag wasn't sitting behind him jumping up every third sentence applauding.
- kerwil62
- 01-28-2011, 02:42 PM
- TheDaliLama
- 01-28-2011, 08:47 PM
I voted for Obama.
I really bought in to his "Hope" and "Change" BS. I am really embarrassed and ashamed of what I did.
I feel some how responsible for all of everyone's pain.
That is why I, bigtex and BlowPop have been hiding.
badpoo and WTF eloped in Vegas and own and operate a mushroom farm in Wyoming.
Btw...MRHAPPY lives on!
I really bought in to his "Hope" and "Change" BS. I am really embarrassed and ashamed of what I did.
I feel some how responsible for all of everyone's pain.
That is why I, bigtex and BlowPop have been hiding.
badpoo and WTF eloped in Vegas and own and operate a mushroom farm in Wyoming.
Btw...MRHAPPY lives on!
- Guest021824
- 01-28-2011, 08:51 PM
It is funny how everyone takes elections so serious. It is much bigger than us all and surely you have to know your vote doesn't mean a damn thing. The powers that be have control over the whole thing and only leave you with the lever to believe your vote actually means something.
get over it already......................I 'm just saying!
get over it already......................I 'm just saying!
- Satin
- 01-28-2011, 09:12 PM
I'm with my boys DM and Kerwil as far as politics ( and religion)...
But what Ike just said is a POTY candidate...no wonder you're stomping the competition to be the next mod ( again).... lol
But what Ike just said is a POTY candidate...no wonder you're stomping the competition to be the next mod ( again).... lol
- Guest021824
- 01-28-2011, 09:17 PM
- caramelqtee mila
- 01-28-2011, 09:53 PM
ke those were the most intelligent words spoken in this entire thread. +1 on what Satino said
- NotSure
- 01-28-2011, 10:11 PM
this is a painful, painful, painfully retarded thread.
- LexusLover
- 01-29-2011, 04:32 AM
Take health care. Originally Posted by BigLouieNo thank you.
The "Secretary" (aka "Health Care Czar") has "issued" almost 300 EXEMPTIONS!
For instance: Labor Unions, get one. Pay back for the 2008 elections.
As a consequence, companies are engaging in union negotiations that result in the responsibility of providing health care to be shifted to the unions, so that employees are REQUIRED to obtain health insurance from the union, which "protects" the company from being subjected to the "new" law! The result is: The union is not required to comply with COBRA, and neither is the company, so employees terminated, regardless of the cause will not have insurance coverage (even if they can pay for it), and unions can require that employees "join" the union to be insured by the union carrier, even though states like Texas are "right to work" states.
More "pay back" from the 2008 elections. But do you want the "bosses" of the AFL-CIO controlling your "heath"?
FYI, BL, have your health care premiums gone up for 2011?
Have your copays gone up for 2011?
- 15fordguy
- 01-29-2011, 05:20 AM
It is really time that we give Washington an enema. Create term limits on congress and take the country back.
- gnadfly
- 01-29-2011, 08:33 AM
It is funny how everyone takes elections so serious. It is much bigger than us all and surely you have to know your vote doesn't mean a damn thing. The powers that be have control over the whole thing and only leave you with the lever to believe your vote actually means something.If this were true McCain/Palin would be running for re-election in 2012...and people say I'm cynical...just sayin'.
get over it already......................I 'm just saying! Originally Posted by SOULMANIKE