Should Obama Pardon Edward Snowden?

Trey's Avatar
  • Trey
  • 01-19-2017, 06:38 AM
I expect the pardon of hillary today but in no way Snowden he is a traitor and lap dog to the enemy. Trumps dumb ass may pardon him to get him lut of daddies house but thats it.

The tranny i at leasy respect a little. He got caught and served his/her time. At least a good chunk of it. The crime was not as bad as snowden who ran to suck commie cock.
  • pxmcc
  • 01-19-2017, 11:00 AM
I disagree Trey on certain points. I think Trump would have Snowden shot, not pardoned. The Russia thing was like a layover at the airport that became cemented in stone. Putin got a big kick out of the situation and sending a big fuck you to the U.S.

Snowden saw that the government was carrying out illegal warrantless spying and figured if he didn't do anything, no one else would either. And you know what? He was absolutely correct about that.

I didn't think Hillary needed a pardon, but Trump is such a nutjob, it may not be a bad idea. ha ha
And, will he? Originally Posted by pxmcc
No, because there's nothing in it for him. Obama only does shit if it helps his popularity with the minorities. The only reason he pardoned Chelsea Manning is because she/he is a tranny. One more thing Obama could do to keep his popularity with the gays and trannys. It had nothing to do with Manning deserving it, because he is a traitor and should have done his 35 years.
Oralist's Avatar
Are you sure you are not getting Edward Snowden and Julian Assange mixed up?

(BTW: Russian just extended Snowdens asylum to 2020.)



. Originally Posted by O'Mike
I looked them both up and you are correct. My bad. I had the wrong leaker.
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  • R.M.
  • 01-20-2017, 05:10 AM
Should the OP go play in traffic on 45 at 4pm on a weekday? Originally Posted by lookn4boobies
No pineapples up the ass at 4pm every day is more suitable. I personally love the Hitler costume.
Sistine Chapel's Avatar
There shouldnt be a conservative in the world who doesnt think Snowden deserves the death penalty.

He sold out those "secrets" to China and Russia not realizing they're far far worse in terms of how they run their countries and the tyrannical rule of their respective countries.

Just like those 47 Republican senators who sent the letter to the Ayatollah of Iran while Obama and our Allies were negotiating a nuclear peace deal...they've all committed Treason. The Republican led senate is as disgraceful as Snowden.

#facts
  • pxmcc
  • 01-20-2017, 05:58 AM
No pineapples up the ass at 4pm every day is more suitable. I personally love the Hitler costume. Originally Posted by R.M.
Uh, R.M. I'm a kinky freak, but uh try that in a session n see what happens. I actually wrote a grudge fuck story with something (a little similar) crazy happening when I fell asleep. Next session she was on a (doggy) leash with neck spikes for 2 hours lol. Shit was fuckin awesome and well worth the price of admission. So sure, go for it.

But back on topic re: Snowden-regular white males are people too. lol. Who woulda thought angry white males could swing an election? The pundits were laughing at Trump for his rustbelt stops late in the campaign. They thought he had taken leave of his senses. We know how that worked out.

My closing thought is that 1 min before Trump is sworn in, Barack should issue a final fuck you to the neocons (who let us not forget started all this Big Brother warrantless wiretapping after 9/11 (another Bush fuck-up)) and pardon Snowden and give him 30 days to come back to the U. S. or revoke his citizenship permanently. Cause this buddy buddy shit with Putin has gotta stop. He's already got one American bitch at his beck and call, and that's more than enough.

Will he? Prbly not, unfortunately. But at least he better pocket those launch codes while he's packing up and get that red button authentic replica up and running and fully functional. It's not theft if the survival of humanity is at stake, imo. The grand jury will "get it" and instead of indictment will opt for a "POTUS saved the planet" award.
Caligula1's Avatar
I think snowden should not be pardoned but he did expose some unauthorized eavesdropping not part of the constitution. He compromised national security where ops were compromised I think. He should be in jail rest of his life. I am showing leniency.
  • pxmcc
  • 02-02-2017, 06:46 AM
I think snowden should not be pardoned but he did expose some unauthorized eavesdropping not part of the constitution. He compromised national security where ops were compromised I think. He should be in jail rest of his life. I am showing leniency. Originally Posted by Caligula1
A pardon is now a moot point. Trump will order him shot without trial if he could get away with it.

But you don't think he took one for the team? Why exactly do you think he did what he did?
Caligula1's Avatar
PXMCC he did it probably for moral consciousness "benefit of doubt. sir you need to know what a "Fog of war " is anyway". Decisions are made and lives and the country is saved. There are ways to handle this...it takes time to build credible source of info....
  • pxmcc
  • 02-03-2017, 09:14 PM
PXMCC he did it probably for moral consciousness "benefit of doubt. sir you need to know what a "Fog of war " is anyway". Decisions are made and lives and the country is saved. There are ways to handle this...it takes time to build credible source of info.... Originally Posted by Caligula1
You think he should've gone up the chain of command? He probably thought about it but when you're talking about the N.S.A., he probably thought, "Well that's not gonna work." ha ha. Maybe he could have met with a libertarian leaning senator or senior admin staffer, someone with high security clearance. Just awkward as hell for both parties imo. Puts the person receiving the info at a huge risk. Maybe he should have sent a letter to the president labeled "Top Secret." That's probably what I would have done if I was in the same spot. It's weird though, because Obama had to know what was happening.

Enemy of the state (the movie) is a lot closer to reality than most people think, imo. That was probably in the back of his mind as well.

N.S.A. plus Trump truly frightens me. It's not a left/right issue imo. This is gonna be a strange 4 years, if it lasts that long. My personal opinion is it won't. Although I disagree with Pence on policy, at least I never questioned his sanity. ha ha
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Px...he should have thought about the broader implications. He could have isolated the problem and stayed focused with his approach but in the process and his approach potentially resulted in numerous collateral damage that you and I cannot perceive.

National security was compromised.....It was in the press.

But I see your point too.....