And here is the rest of the storyAnd you got this "inside" information from where?
US military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support, or adequate backup preparations.
As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced Al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger-than-expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists. Originally Posted by BigLouie
- LexusLover
- 02-02-2017, 04:32 PM
- Rey Lengua
- 02-02-2017, 04:41 PM
- LexusLover
- 02-02-2017, 04:48 PM
Well, thank God an Ambassador wasn't killed, and no Marines were dragged down the street naked behind jeeps!
It's regrettable that the Muslim Terrorists think so little of their women and children they would put them harms way at one of their encampments, perhaps they should take more care of them and make sure that remain a safe distance away from any place fighters may have to live.
It's regrettable that the Muslim Terrorists think so little of their women and children they would put them harms way at one of their encampments, perhaps they should take more care of them and make sure that remain a safe distance away from any place fighters may have to live.
- ilikefun
- 02-02-2017, 05:07 PM
- ilikefun
- 02-02-2017, 05:12 PM
- LexusLover
- 02-02-2017, 05:59 PM
I suppose that someone out there actually believes that Trump with Mattis standing by his side ordered a Seal Team into a firefight with inadequate "intelligence" when "better intelligence" was available and the Seal Team went off after giving it a firm "Yes,Sir!"
How did they know where to go?
The team that went in to get OBL got into an unexpected firefight and lost one of their rides home!!! In the middle of Pakistan. Any complaints? Fuck No!
Here's the news flash. To defeat the terrorists the U.S. and any nation with the balls to help are going to lose good people, and they are also going to lose good people at home until it's done! This shit has been going on for over 25 years .... 100's of 1,000's of people have died, and a lot more are going to die.
Just let Trump and HIS TEAM do their job and get it done. Give him his cabinet and his Judge ... the authorizations and the money. Don't get in the way.
How did they know where to go?
The team that went in to get OBL got into an unexpected firefight and lost one of their rides home!!! In the middle of Pakistan. Any complaints? Fuck No!
Here's the news flash. To defeat the terrorists the U.S. and any nation with the balls to help are going to lose good people, and they are also going to lose good people at home until it's done! This shit has been going on for over 25 years .... 100's of 1,000's of people have died, and a lot more are going to die.
Just let Trump and HIS TEAM do their job and get it done. Give him his cabinet and his Judge ... the authorizations and the money. Don't get in the way.
- GlobeSpotter
- 02-02-2017, 06:33 PM
.....Exactly....and the Dems can get back to breaking glass at protests and killing 3,000 babies per day right in the womb.
Just let Trump and HIS TEAM do their job and get it done. Give him his cabinet and his Judge ... the authorizations and the money. Don't get in the way. Originally Posted by LexusLover
- GlobeSpotter
- 02-02-2017, 06:35 PM
https://goo.gl/images/Rzrkav Originally Posted by ilikefun18 of them....
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
- ilikefun
- 02-02-2017, 07:59 PM
Yup Trump the draft dodger didn't waste his.
- Munchmasterman
- 02-02-2017, 10:39 PM
And you got this "inside" information from where? Originally Posted by LexusLoverSo because you don't go off the approved reading list you're going to call into question every source because you haven't read it? Pretty funny. Most people would check the story before they wrote a text bashing it. Especially since it only takes a minute to check a story. You know, about the same time it takes to shown you're ignorant of the subject.
Douche-bag.
Well, thank God an Ambassador wasn't killed, and no Marines were dragged down the street naked behind jeeps!Nope. Just a SEAL, right? What a douche-bag. You haven't read the story so you don't have a clue why it was an ill advised raid at the time it was done.
It's regrettable that the Muslim Terrorists think so little of their women and children they would put them harms way at one of their encampments, perhaps they should take more care of them and make sure that remain a safe distance away from any place fighters may have to live. Originally Posted by LexusLover
So is trump going to honor all the fallen soldiers? Or just one cause he had the time? Right.
It was a kind gesture.
- LexusLover
- 02-03-2017, 06:52 AM
[SIZE="3"]Most people would check the story before they wrote a text bashing it. Originally Posted by MunchmastermanYou mean like "the story" that Trump removed the bust of MLK?
Then there are the stories about Trump's conversations with Leaders around the world ... two of them out of ________? ... and how he was rude and "mean" to them .... but they and their respective aids deny he was "rude and mean"! So you want to believe "the story" or do you want to believe THE MEN INVOLVED?
The, of course, begs the real question: If the stories about the phone calls are correct .. who is tapping the phones at the White House?
Back to topic: Who on the Seal Team was giving reports to the press?
Or was it a Terrorist giving the reports to the Press? Background:
The people on the ground in Benghazi in the middle of the firefight told the story about what happened ... Which version did you "believe" ... HillaryNoMore's ... Obaminable's ... RiceBrains? ....
Are you suggesting I read a "story" taken from a rumor generated by someone who wasn't there on the ground (and probably was NEVER IN THEIR LIFE even near a firefight!)?
As long as it's negative about Trump you don't care, right?
- Munchmasterman
- 02-03-2017, 09:45 AM
Sorry douche-bag. Let's stay focused on the raid.
Won't you feel stupid if the raid story is the only one they got right?
What fake news, other than your own, did you hear in the last month on MSM?
[QUOTE=LexusLover;1059146310]You mean like "the story" that Trump removed the bust of MLK?I forget. Who ran that as straight news? How long was it circulated as straight news?
Then there are the stories about Trump's conversations with Leaders around the world ... two of them out of ________? ... and how he was rude and "mean" to them .... but they and their respective aids deny he was "rude and mean"! So you want to believe "the story" or do you want to believe THE MEN INVOLVED? Nice try. That has nothing to do with the raid. Trump has a proven track record of lying. All politicians lie.
The, of course, begs the real question: If the stories about the phone calls are correct .. who is tapping the phones at the White House? The Russians? And who said they have to tap the phone?
Back to topic: Who on the Seal Team was giving reports to the press? Did you mean SEAL, guy who has never been near a fire fight?
Or was it a Terrorist giving the reports to the Press? Background: Funny you would mention that. Some US government verified reports were given by the terrorists involved
The people on the ground in Benghazi in the middle of the firefight told the story about what happened ... Which version did you "believe" ... HillaryNoMore's ... Obaminable's ... RiceBrains? ..I believe it's been settled. Numerous times.
You and your 'ugh red font on your big chief tablet. Crying for attention. Lighting the slime trail of your hypocrisy.
Let's get back to what an asshole you are. ..
Are you suggesting I read a "story" taken from a rumor generated by someone who wasn't there on the ground (and probably was NEVER IN THEIR LIFE even near a firefight!)? Like you? Except there is no need to add "probably" to your description.
As long as it's negative about Trump you don't care, right? And as long as it's true.[/QUOTE]
First off, we know you will say any source you disagree with is fake news. No big deal. Batting practice is fun. You are so desperate.
And after 29000 posts, the majority aimed at Obama. you have what you think are balls (they aren't, just cancer), to whine about trump shooting off his mouth and hitting his own(and the SEALs) foot.
After less than a month you're crying like one of your stepfathers beat your ass for wearing mommy's underwear.
Now we know you think these are "fake", but who cares?
Raid in Yemen: Risky From the Start and Costly in the End
By ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID E. SANGERFEB. 1, 2017
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Officials, including Senator Chris Coons of Delaware, left Washington for Dover Air Force Base on Wednesday to meet the family of an American commando killed in Yemen. Credit Stephen Crowley/The New York Times WASHINGTON — Just five days after taking office, over dinner with his newly installed secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, President Trump was presented with the first of what will be many life-or-death decisions: whether to approve a commando raid that risked the lives of American Special Operations forces and foreign civilians alike.
President Barack Obama’s national security aides had reviewed the plans for a risky attack on a small, heavily guarded brick home of a senior Qaeda collaborator in a mountainous village in a remote part of central Yemen. But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night and the next one would come after his term had ended.
With two of his closest advisers, Jared Kushner and Stephen K. Bannon, joining the dinner at the White House along with Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., Mr. Trump approved sending in the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, hoping the raid early last Sunday would scoop up cellphones and laptop computers that could yield valuable clues about one of the world’s most dangerous terrorist groups. Vice President Mike Pence and Michael T. Flynn, the national security adviser, also attended the dinner.
As it turned out, almost everything that could go wrong did. And on Wednesday, Mr. Trump flew to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to be present as the body of the American commando killed in the raid was returned home, the first military death on the new commander in chief’s watch.
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The death of Chief Petty Officer William Owens came after a chain of mishaps and misjudgments that plunged the elite commandos into a ferocious 50-minute firefight that also left three others wounded and a $75 million aircraft deliberately destroyed. There are allegations — which the Pentagon acknowledged on Wednesday night are most likely correct — that the mission also killed several civilians, including some children. The dead include, by the account of Al Qaeda’s branch in Yemen, the 8-year-old daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born Qaeda leader who was killed in a targeted drone strike in 2011.
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallel...aise-questions
Here is some balance. The post says don't blame trump. Blame Obama. He planned it. For a moonless night trump wouldn't wait for. But that's not the point. They acknowledge the event and results and mistakes. Trump relied on other's advice.
But as you gleefully have pointed out on so many occasions, it's trump's.watch. He is the president.
http://nypost.com/2017/02/02/smearin...aid-is-unfair/
Google "yemen raid"' Many, many, examples.
This is about you "standing" your "ground" and then doubling down on your "standards" of proof or reporting.
You have proven you are lazy and will say anything to avoid eating your words
Won't you feel stupid if the raid story is the only one they got right?
What fake news, other than your own, did you hear in the last month on MSM?
[QUOTE=LexusLover;1059146310]You mean like "the story" that Trump removed the bust of MLK?I forget. Who ran that as straight news? How long was it circulated as straight news?
Then there are the stories about Trump's conversations with Leaders around the world ... two of them out of ________? ... and how he was rude and "mean" to them .... but they and their respective aids deny he was "rude and mean"! So you want to believe "the story" or do you want to believe THE MEN INVOLVED? Nice try. That has nothing to do with the raid. Trump has a proven track record of lying. All politicians lie.
The, of course, begs the real question: If the stories about the phone calls are correct .. who is tapping the phones at the White House? The Russians? And who said they have to tap the phone?
Back to topic: Who on the Seal Team was giving reports to the press? Did you mean SEAL, guy who has never been near a fire fight?
Or was it a Terrorist giving the reports to the Press? Background: Funny you would mention that. Some US government verified reports were given by the terrorists involved
The people on the ground in Benghazi in the middle of the firefight told the story about what happened ... Which version did you "believe" ... HillaryNoMore's ... Obaminable's ... RiceBrains? ..I believe it's been settled. Numerous times.
You and your 'ugh red font on your big chief tablet. Crying for attention. Lighting the slime trail of your hypocrisy.
Let's get back to what an asshole you are. ..
Are you suggesting I read a "story" taken from a rumor generated by someone who wasn't there on the ground (and probably was NEVER IN THEIR LIFE even near a firefight!)? Like you? Except there is no need to add "probably" to your description.
As long as it's negative about Trump you don't care, right? And as long as it's true.[/QUOTE]
First off, we know you will say any source you disagree with is fake news. No big deal. Batting practice is fun. You are so desperate.
And after 29000 posts, the majority aimed at Obama. you have what you think are balls (they aren't, just cancer), to whine about trump shooting off his mouth and hitting his own(and the SEALs) foot.
After less than a month you're crying like one of your stepfathers beat your ass for wearing mommy's underwear.
Now we know you think these are "fake", but who cares?
Raid in Yemen: Risky From the Start and Costly in the End
By ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID E. SANGERFEB. 1, 2017
Continue reading the main story Share This Page Continue reading the main story Photo
Officials, including Senator Chris Coons of Delaware, left Washington for Dover Air Force Base on Wednesday to meet the family of an American commando killed in Yemen. Credit Stephen Crowley/The New York Times WASHINGTON — Just five days after taking office, over dinner with his newly installed secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, President Trump was presented with the first of what will be many life-or-death decisions: whether to approve a commando raid that risked the lives of American Special Operations forces and foreign civilians alike.
President Barack Obama’s national security aides had reviewed the plans for a risky attack on a small, heavily guarded brick home of a senior Qaeda collaborator in a mountainous village in a remote part of central Yemen. But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night and the next one would come after his term had ended.
With two of his closest advisers, Jared Kushner and Stephen K. Bannon, joining the dinner at the White House along with Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., Mr. Trump approved sending in the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, hoping the raid early last Sunday would scoop up cellphones and laptop computers that could yield valuable clues about one of the world’s most dangerous terrorist groups. Vice President Mike Pence and Michael T. Flynn, the national security adviser, also attended the dinner.
As it turned out, almost everything that could go wrong did. And on Wednesday, Mr. Trump flew to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to be present as the body of the American commando killed in the raid was returned home, the first military death on the new commander in chief’s watch.
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The death of Chief Petty Officer William Owens came after a chain of mishaps and misjudgments that plunged the elite commandos into a ferocious 50-minute firefight that also left three others wounded and a $75 million aircraft deliberately destroyed. There are allegations — which the Pentagon acknowledged on Wednesday night are most likely correct — that the mission also killed several civilians, including some children. The dead include, by the account of Al Qaeda’s branch in Yemen, the 8-year-old daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born Qaeda leader who was killed in a targeted drone strike in 2011.
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallel...aise-questions
Here is some balance. The post says don't blame trump. Blame Obama. He planned it. For a moonless night trump wouldn't wait for. But that's not the point. They acknowledge the event and results and mistakes. Trump relied on other's advice.
But as you gleefully have pointed out on so many occasions, it's trump's.watch. He is the president.
http://nypost.com/2017/02/02/smearin...aid-is-unfair/
Google "yemen raid"' Many, many, examples.
This is about you "standing" your "ground" and then doubling down on your "standards" of proof or reporting.
You have proven you are lazy and will say anything to avoid eating your words
- LexusLover
- 02-03-2017, 09:58 AM
- LexusLover
- 02-03-2017, 12:06 PM
- BigLouie
- 02-03-2017, 01:42 PM
Here is another view point
There was the chaotic operation in Yemen, approved at dinner with the help of the president’s caretaker son-in-law (a 35-year-old real estate developer), a Muslim-hating, Putin-loving military intelligence washout now exacting his revenge on the military establishment that turfed him out, and a right wing demagogue bent on a global, white Christian anti-Islamic crusade. The operation was, of course, a tragic failure, resulting in the deaths of a Navy SEAL and an 8-year-old girl, plus countless other civilians. Trump, for his part, didn’t even watch his very first military operation as commander in chief from the situation room. Perhaps, as during the Vietnam war, he had better things to do.
There was the chaotic operation in Yemen, approved at dinner with the help of the president’s caretaker son-in-law (a 35-year-old real estate developer), a Muslim-hating, Putin-loving military intelligence washout now exacting his revenge on the military establishment that turfed him out, and a right wing demagogue bent on a global, white Christian anti-Islamic crusade. The operation was, of course, a tragic failure, resulting in the deaths of a Navy SEAL and an 8-year-old girl, plus countless other civilians. Trump, for his part, didn’t even watch his very first military operation as commander in chief from the situation room. Perhaps, as during the Vietnam war, he had better things to do.