A few things I need to get off my chest. :)

Well said Traci! Well said! Of course I have mentioned the same things and suddenly i was ridiculed and told that I was ALL about the money, just because i had mentioned the envelope the beginning as well as the poor hygiene thing... Originally Posted by LusciousLacy

Sweetie, any guy who doesn't realize that it's always all about the money is a fucking idiot.

Just say it like it is sweetie.

I grow balls when the need is there.
In other words....I'm not afraid to say.......uh...NO ! We don't go THERE because it makes me uncomfortable. OR....uh...that just doesn't work for me babe....so let's stop.

Don't be afraid to stand your ground. Also, you can make it a point to say...."there is mouthwash in the lue, and please help yourself"?

These guys need directions. No offense my male friends....but seriously....dudes are always looking for the "right" thing to do when it comes to women. Am I right?

We love you bloaks....and you truly are the "bomb"! (in a good way)

Cheers!
Torre

Just say it like it is sweetie.

I grow balls when the need is there.
In other words....I'm not afraid to say.......uh...NO ! We don't go THERE because it makes me uncomfortable. OR....uh...that just doesn't work for me babe....so let's stop.

Don't be afraid to stand your ground. Also, you can make it a point to say...."there is mouthwash in the lue, and please help yourself"?

These guys need directions. No offense my male friends....but seriously....dudes are always looking for the "right" thing to do when it comes to women. Am I right?

We love you bloaks....and you truly are the "bomb"! (in a good way)

Cheers!
Torre Originally Posted by Torre Tames

Exactly Torre, if there is an issue address it, if either party decides to be an ass over it, well time to end the session simple as that. You don't do that ok fine let's do something you do. If either party isn't as fresh as they could/would like to be, lead them to the shower. Hell maybe even both of you climb in to make it fun, nothing like two soapy bodies rubbing on each other. If his/her breath is an issue politely let them know, if either refuse to deal with it, then you are in your rights to refusing kissing. A session is supposed to be fun, for both of us, a little courtesy, respect and plain honesty from both sides would keep bad sessions from happening.

We can't fix an issue if we don't know there is an issue!

Edit to add: Traci we all know you have a beautiful chest, so please feel free to share what ever is on it with us!

Right on Traci, my biggest peeve is good clean hygiene! When you guys are clean and fresh we really get into what we are here for. But if hygiene isn't good then it is really hard and then ymmv and that wont be very far.

It was a nice informative post Traci.

Well it looks perfect to me..... Just like you

Looks like someone needs to teach some of these guys some manners....
Sorry you have to put up with that...... Originally Posted by chillster

Obviously you didn't see the hot mess she originally posted, before I complained and she fixed it. Apology accepted.

Obviously you didn't see the hot mess she originally posted, before I complained and she fixed it. Apology accepted. Originally Posted by trynagetlaid

Actually I fixed it before you complained. So, really your input wasn't needed. Feel free to leave my thread in peace. Thanks for stopping by.

Traci

First things first I am sorry you had to write a post like this......a little common sense and common courtesy is all it takes but for some reason some people do not feel that rules and guidelines apply to them.....

Second I must say how impressed I am by the way you handled this subject in your post...I for one when I get upset can not be as calm and as articulate as you where...this also applys to how you handled some posts on your thread that were not needed

I have always enjoyed reading your posts and when you are in chat......I am sure your travels will be amazing and looking forward to following your adventures on your blog....

Thank you for posting pretty lady.

Traci, it is a shame you had to post that. It seems that common sense is not so common after all.

All good points and well made. I definitely don't envy you ladies for some of the guys that inspire posts like these. Only real comment I've got is that sometimes we men can sometimes be forgetful or absent minded, particularly in the presence of a pretty lady. I can't speak for anyone else, but a gentle reminder or nudge of some sort would be much appreciated if I screwed something up.

On the time front, I try to head out as close to time as possible, but a clue like making your way doorward or just a conversation shift to an "it was nice to meet you/see you again" helps if I lose track. I wouldn't necessarily expect a tip on a visit that went a bit long, he may only carry just the donation on him (I usually only bring what I'm planning to give, donation plus any pre-planned or expected possible tip). But if it was more than a couple minutes over, a tip or at least some (tangible) show of appreciation on the next visit would definitely be reasonable.

Similarly, a nudge to the shower or toiletries would be helpful if needed. I try to get as clean as possible as close as possible to meeting someone, but the summer heat can get the sweat working overtime. "The shower's in here if you'd like one, and please use this towel" or better yet, "Care to join me for a nice hot shower before we start?" May not be the best idea to point someone to a toothbrush. Don't take my word as gospel since I can't remember details, but I do recall reading once upon a time about brushing => microtears in the mouth, which could cause problems with oral shortly after. I aim for brushing 1:30-45 minutes before, but maybe I'm just being superstitious. Have at pointing me to the mouthwash/breath mints/gargling vodka, though.

That said, good read for a nice glimpse into the other side of this world. Hope Dallas listens and treats you well enough in the next few weeks to return some day.

May not be the best idea to point someone to a toothbrush. Don't take my word as gospel since I can't remember details, but I do recall reading once upon a time about brushing => microtears in the mouth, which could cause problems with oral shortly after. I aim for brushing 30-45 minutes before, but maybe I'm just being superstitious. Originally Posted by The Proper Stranger

Good point. Traci does mention the same thing on her web site, suggesting brushing 2 hours beforehand. It's little things like this that are not intuitive for new hobbyists.

I agree that the rest of Traci's post should be common sense. I feel bad for the ladies that have to deal with guys that don't follow these points!

Good point. Traci does mention the same thing on her web site, suggesting brushing 2 hours beforehand. It's little things like this that are not intuitive for new hobbyists. Originally Posted by true_whatever

After some googling to confirm, looks like I need to brush a little earlier. At least I haven't done much hobbying lately, so it hasn't come up.

And here I was thinking I was going to see some new exposed titty shots.....

* There IS a different between PSE and GFE. It is pretty well known that I am VERY GFE... ..With all the information about me out there, why would anyone come to me, specifically, and expect anal play, or stripper slide, Originally Posted by tracibrooks

It’s is debatable whether a stripper slide is characterized as GFE or PSE. I’ve noticed reviewz of Delanie Smith providing the stripper slide, and I believe most hobbyist would characterize her as GFE and not PSE.

I’ve also seen Tara Evans post on a couple of occasions that she providez a stripper slide - http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=269575&postcount=7 and http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=991667&postcount=4. I personally have not seen Tara, but have read some of her reviews and believe she would be on the GFE side of things (although some hobbyistz will argue she is not even GFE).

The bottom line is that they should ask before attempting a stripper slide. The providerz usually have to initiate the slide to ensure the proper technique, movement and “slide” effect.