The talent for Asian providers in Austin is very limited and it's sure a lot easier to pay a higher amount for them to travel here than to spend the time and expense to travel to Dallas, which I did a lot last year. Last year I would see some of the Asian providers here and it's not uncommon to pay 160 for non GFE what amounts to a 30 minute session. It's all about the value, the 160 rush hours that turn into 30 minutes is a lot less value than a real non rushed GFE session even if it is twice the cost.
My view is you get what you pay for.
- luca_brasi
- 05-26-2011, 01:01 PM
- TxToast
- 05-26-2011, 01:20 PM
I'm simply responding to the OP who's comments indicated a less then stellar turn out. The simple truth is you get what you get regardless of what you pay. No question that some gals have earned a reputation for consistent quality and service. I'll use AA as a good example. She has a 2 hour minimum for Austin which I understand. If/When either of these gals reaches a point where they have that level of reputation great.
BTW there where two outstanding asian visitors here last week that were pretty much booked solid and got great reviews to boot. Plenty of great visiting asian options for exactly what these two were charging up in Dallas.
I can rattle of a half dozen local gals who will rock your world for less, why give in to a misconception that you can raise your rate by roughly 50% just because your traveling.
BTW there where two outstanding asian visitors here last week that were pretty much booked solid and got great reviews to boot. Plenty of great visiting asian options for exactly what these two were charging up in Dallas.
I can rattle of a half dozen local gals who will rock your world for less, why give in to a misconception that you can raise your rate by roughly 50% just because your traveling.
- Guest121012
- 05-26-2011, 01:29 PM
Those 2 girls are my friend and their service is cbj which they told me they kicked the client out after you are done. Mine is full service and no rush on me. Take a look at my service and my review. I've seen Ivy's review and Wicky doesn't have review at all.
- Pflugerbill
- 05-26-2011, 02:18 PM
- Guest121012
- 05-26-2011, 02:41 PM
If there's many people who are willing to pay and have a good time what's your beef? Originally Posted by PflugerbillWell, my English is not as good as somebody here, so if someone could pls help me to explain what is this guy trying to say. I pm him asking him politely but the answered was quite rude.
- luca_brasi
- 05-26-2011, 03:55 PM
I just hit the wrong key and lost what was a decent response to all this so will try to recreate.
KayKay is right there are plently of people willing to pay and have a good time, especially in Dallas where the reviews speak for themselves. I have been wondering when the prices would go up, because some of the top Asian Talent in Dallas comes in at 250 - 300 for the same menu of serivces, in some cases a more limited menu. Setting their prices closer to the other top Asians in Dallas makes sense it tells people they are true GFE/PSE and not the typical AMP girls that so many of the guys have seen to be able to spend time with Asian providers. My opinion is that the value is there in the range of prices and the menu vs others at a lower price point and more limited menus. There is no reason why they should not be charging the same as other upscale providers of like characteristics would charge. KayKay's statement about plently of guys that will spend the money and have fun is true, see the reviews, between KayKay and AsianJJ there are probably in the neighborhood of 70 or more reviews. Almost everyword is a positive, that is very rare for that many reviews done by a large population of hobbiests.
Temporarily relocating two people to Austin to conduct business is not trivial and not without some expenses, how much sense would it be for them to leave their regulars in Dallas go to Austin spend money to have a nice incall, one much better than what you get in some of the lower rent hotels, or for those that remember how about that house on Tedford where Asian Sensations used to operate. Where the cock roaches are big and plentiful enough to play cards in the corner or having the session on a massage table instead of a comfortable kind size bed with refreshments, shower, quality soaps, etc. There are lots of intangibles that make the experience worth the price charged, in some ways a real bargin unless you are looking for a hit and run type of deal. These two women are smart, warm, great personalities, and very very welcoming to everyone that they see, that can be verified in many reviews, I have written only two becasue why continually repeat myself. Even with that said, top shelf is not everyones cup of tea and staying with the 160 - 200 women is right for them, if that is the case there is no need to give KayKay and JJ crap about their services and prices, especially if you are not willing to at least give them a try and then comment on value vs price after the fact not what sounds to me like a beef over the price before even trying. The truth is KayKay and AsianJJ are offering a different level of service from locale (don't know about IVY and Wicky but if they use the same incall as Maysaya then it's a dump) , menu, attitude, eminites in incall, and true GFE this is not what I have gotten in the past from the women in the 160 - 200 dollar range in Austin. AsianJJ for example the session is all about pleasing the customer and she is disappointed if you are not completely satisfied with your time with her.
I do not have anything negative for those that can't afford or don't want to spend the asking price, then don't and move on, there are plently of guys that after seeing KayKay or AsianJJ would continue to see them and the only question is "where can I get the money to see them as often as I would like". By the way, in my experience with Asianjj, no is not part of her vocabulary and she is more than willing to please and is never rude or negative. Again not qualites I see with the girls that charge 160 - 200.
I hope not to offend anyone, but if anything I have understated the value and details since this is a coed discussion. Read the ROS in the 70+ reviews and perhaps reevaluate the decision to complain about the price for time with someone you never was willing to spend the money on in the first place.
KayKay is right there are plently of people willing to pay and have a good time, especially in Dallas where the reviews speak for themselves. I have been wondering when the prices would go up, because some of the top Asian Talent in Dallas comes in at 250 - 300 for the same menu of serivces, in some cases a more limited menu. Setting their prices closer to the other top Asians in Dallas makes sense it tells people they are true GFE/PSE and not the typical AMP girls that so many of the guys have seen to be able to spend time with Asian providers. My opinion is that the value is there in the range of prices and the menu vs others at a lower price point and more limited menus. There is no reason why they should not be charging the same as other upscale providers of like characteristics would charge. KayKay's statement about plently of guys that will spend the money and have fun is true, see the reviews, between KayKay and AsianJJ there are probably in the neighborhood of 70 or more reviews. Almost everyword is a positive, that is very rare for that many reviews done by a large population of hobbiests.
Temporarily relocating two people to Austin to conduct business is not trivial and not without some expenses, how much sense would it be for them to leave their regulars in Dallas go to Austin spend money to have a nice incall, one much better than what you get in some of the lower rent hotels, or for those that remember how about that house on Tedford where Asian Sensations used to operate. Where the cock roaches are big and plentiful enough to play cards in the corner or having the session on a massage table instead of a comfortable kind size bed with refreshments, shower, quality soaps, etc. There are lots of intangibles that make the experience worth the price charged, in some ways a real bargin unless you are looking for a hit and run type of deal. These two women are smart, warm, great personalities, and very very welcoming to everyone that they see, that can be verified in many reviews, I have written only two becasue why continually repeat myself. Even with that said, top shelf is not everyones cup of tea and staying with the 160 - 200 women is right for them, if that is the case there is no need to give KayKay and JJ crap about their services and prices, especially if you are not willing to at least give them a try and then comment on value vs price after the fact not what sounds to me like a beef over the price before even trying. The truth is KayKay and AsianJJ are offering a different level of service from locale (don't know about IVY and Wicky but if they use the same incall as Maysaya then it's a dump) , menu, attitude, eminites in incall, and true GFE this is not what I have gotten in the past from the women in the 160 - 200 dollar range in Austin. AsianJJ for example the session is all about pleasing the customer and she is disappointed if you are not completely satisfied with your time with her.
I do not have anything negative for those that can't afford or don't want to spend the asking price, then don't and move on, there are plently of guys that after seeing KayKay or AsianJJ would continue to see them and the only question is "where can I get the money to see them as often as I would like". By the way, in my experience with Asianjj, no is not part of her vocabulary and she is more than willing to please and is never rude or negative. Again not qualites I see with the girls that charge 160 - 200.
I hope not to offend anyone, but if anything I have understated the value and details since this is a coed discussion. Read the ROS in the 70+ reviews and perhaps reevaluate the decision to complain about the price for time with someone you never was willing to spend the money on in the first place.
- luca_brasi
- 05-26-2011, 04:19 PM
by the guys, thanks for fucking up my shit (sarcasim intended) now my ATF is back in Dallas and I have to spend 100 bucks on gas just to get there and back, plus hotel and other travel expenses.
- TxToast
- 05-26-2011, 04:24 PM
I'm sorry but my comments were in no way rude. Further I made absolutely no comments regarding the relative quality of service from either gal. Personally I do not need your condescending WK bullshit trying to tell me what I can or can not afford. I've hobbied on every continent but Antarctica. The gals made it clear they got a less then expected turn out and a few of us piped up on our thoughts.
If you think that the current market rate in Dallas is $320-$350 then your the one who is misinformed. Personally I'll put yoko up vs any gal (asian or otherwise) for menu and quality of service in Dallas.
You've got zero place here giving me or any other guy crap about stating our position in response to a thread like this, you are certainly entitled to spend your money however you see fit but drop your WK attitude....
If you think that the current market rate in Dallas is $320-$350 then your the one who is misinformed. Personally I'll put yoko up vs any gal (asian or otherwise) for menu and quality of service in Dallas.
You've got zero place here giving me or any other guy crap about stating our position in response to a thread like this, you are certainly entitled to spend your money however you see fit but drop your WK attitude....
- Guest121012
- 05-26-2011, 04:44 PM
My rates in Dallas for Greek is $300 and many of Dallas gents visited me without any problem.
- luca_brasi
- 05-26-2011, 05:02 PM
maybe I could have just said let's respect their business model instead of bitching about it, you can say WK if you like but nothing written was exaggerated or untrue, and I have seen my share of providers in multiple countries so it's not like I don't have experience to draw from, I was a little pissed becasue I wrote a thread indicating they were coming to town and the thread degeneration into a bitch fest about pricing, just pissed me off a little, it's their business model, same as people used to bitch about my labor costs, etc when I was in a non adult oriented services and product business, did not intend to lecture, but a little pissed, tried to help and got pissed on instead. Read my reviews using this or my previous handle that I had to change becasue of a black mail attempt by a totally different provider that handle was tdub99. By the way Asia Jackie moved her prices up to 250 this year. Gas prices are up and sorry no offense intended.
- cckid2006
- 05-26-2011, 06:56 PM
Back on point - there are many AA's in Austin who give excellent service for 1.6. But I will gladly pay double for the same service - NOT! Econ 101 - if you can't compete get out of the game.
- newbieguy
- 05-26-2011, 07:36 PM
I rarely participate in threads, but I felt the desire to jump into this one. Hopefully it doesn't backfire on me.
So, first, I'm sorry that Kaykay and AsianJJ were less than pleased with their visits. They both seem like very lovely ladies and Austin could sure use the Asian talent. When I first saw their posts, and checked the showcases, I was salivating and ready to jump on the chance to meet them. But when I noticed the donations, it was out of my range and sadly I had to pass. Ladies have the perogative to request the donation that they feel they deserve and it's everyones personal decision to accept it or not.
BUT, I believe the point that some others are trying to make is not the actual dollar amount stated for the donation, but the amount of increase of the donation from the local asking rate. Sure, there are expenses associated with traveling, I don't deny that, and I'm not trying to argue what is the right amount, if any, to increase a donation rate for travel. But more so that I feel that when you get into the donation range of which these ladies were requesting,,,,local or not, traffic may be slower due to it. Ladies in the 160-200 range are inevitably available to many more hobbyiests who operate in that range, and in turn, probably stay as busy as they wish and do very well for themselves. I just don't think it's fair to label Austin as a place where "the gents were not really welcoming us at all" unless there were actual incident(s) of rudeness,,but if it's merely that we are not welcoming because we don't want to cough up the donation, then that shouldn't tarnish the city. I would have LOVED to have welcomed you to Austin, just not at that donation.
Ok, enough rambling. Long story short,,,,request whatever donation you see fit. If the service level fits the bill and gents are comfortable with it, they will see you. But I myself will never have the luxury at that rate. I'll visit you in Dallas one day when I'm passing through! ;-)
My $4.02 cents.
So, first, I'm sorry that Kaykay and AsianJJ were less than pleased with their visits. They both seem like very lovely ladies and Austin could sure use the Asian talent. When I first saw their posts, and checked the showcases, I was salivating and ready to jump on the chance to meet them. But when I noticed the donations, it was out of my range and sadly I had to pass. Ladies have the perogative to request the donation that they feel they deserve and it's everyones personal decision to accept it or not.
BUT, I believe the point that some others are trying to make is not the actual dollar amount stated for the donation, but the amount of increase of the donation from the local asking rate. Sure, there are expenses associated with traveling, I don't deny that, and I'm not trying to argue what is the right amount, if any, to increase a donation rate for travel. But more so that I feel that when you get into the donation range of which these ladies were requesting,,,,local or not, traffic may be slower due to it. Ladies in the 160-200 range are inevitably available to many more hobbyiests who operate in that range, and in turn, probably stay as busy as they wish and do very well for themselves. I just don't think it's fair to label Austin as a place where "the gents were not really welcoming us at all" unless there were actual incident(s) of rudeness,,but if it's merely that we are not welcoming because we don't want to cough up the donation, then that shouldn't tarnish the city. I would have LOVED to have welcomed you to Austin, just not at that donation.
Ok, enough rambling. Long story short,,,,request whatever donation you see fit. If the service level fits the bill and gents are comfortable with it, they will see you. But I myself will never have the luxury at that rate. I'll visit you in Dallas one day when I'm passing through! ;-)
My $4.02 cents.
- Guest121012
- 05-26-2011, 08:31 PM
Newbieguy, thank you for the honest thoughts, I'm absolutely respect your classy comment that make me feel comfortable. I'm on p411 and I do my research before I post an ad and e local girls rates are quite high. I don't judge people, but I thought Austin gents will be able to visit me while my short visit there. Somehow I also seen a discussion and they were talking about me and my cousins which we were not happy. We are a girl who came from a very nice country and friendly people. The only thing they can ask for is discount but instead of asking they just inbox me with a very rude message. Asking for cim+swallow. Cim is in the menu but never swallow. So the gents have the right to say whatever but the only thing they don't is asking for discount.
- yohollyrock
- 05-26-2011, 09:33 PM
Kay Kay--tell these losers in Austin to kiss your ass!! We love you in Dallas, both you and JJ--guess these hillbillys just don't understand what the hobby is all about. Come home quick--we all miss ya!!
- Guest121012
- 05-26-2011, 09:58 PM