RIP Mollie Tibbetts

There are simple answers only for those with simple minds.

These are complicated problems, and all the simple answers either end of the spectrum come up with are almost guaranteed to be wrong.

I think we should find the wall not judge with drug dealer forfeitures, but foreitures of businesses who hire illegals.

Smfh

Oh Speedracer, I do not have the answers. That's why I vote for people who I think can come up with solutions.
And yes --- there will never be a program 100 Percent perfect. Nothing ever is. You have to vote for the person that you think will do the job.




[QUOTE=SpeedRacerXXX;1060841606]

Ok
The children being taken from their parents was due to a direct Trump policy. This poor woman's murder had nothing to do with anyone's policy or anything political. I agree however,the fact remains that he entered into the U.S. illegally. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE!

Even if they were to completely close the borders tomorrow, crimes like this will still continue to happen, unfortunately. I totally agree with you LM on this. If people are determined to enter the U.S. by any means necessary without the U.S. having strong immigration control -- then you are right - they will.
There nothing anyone can say to that, period.


A question for you. What measures do you propose be taken to deter illegal immigration? My guess is that no matter what you or others come up with will have plusses and minuses. And what do you propose be done to people already in this country illegally? Half the illegals in this country are people who have overstayed their visas.

Unfortunately there are no easy answers. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Yes, you have never done that,however,liberals have - I was responding to your statement.
And Speedracer, I know you and you don't mean it this way - but - when you say "you should rise above something" - you are implying that I am beneath. It's not a good thing. Just FYI.

If you mean stereotyping SOME Trump supporters as "deplorables", I have never done anything like that. And if someone else happens to make such stereotypes maybe you should rise above that and take the higher road. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I never hear about the people that hired this guy .why they not in jail too.

Ok Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Miss Ellen, I love you you know that (in a strictly platonic way). If you want to discuss immigration issues with me then please start another thread that is solely about immigration. This thread is tasteless and you are a better person than this.

I admit I let myself fall into the trap, but it ends here as far I am concerned. My whole point in this thread is that a beautiful, smart, young woman who had her whole life ahead of her was murdered in cold blood, and this should not be turned into a political debate from either side. And I really do hope they put that worthless piece of shit in a cell with the biggest & baddest MF in whatever prison he ends up in and gets the shit beat out of him and ass raped repeatedly.

This will be my final post in this thread, and all I have to say about this matter.

R.I.P Mollie Tibbetts

I really do hope you are with your god right now.

Yes, you have never done that,however,liberals have - I was responding to your statement.
And Speedracer, I know you and you don't mean it this way - but - when you say "you should rise above something" - you are implying that I am beneath. It's not a good thing. Just FYI. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

What I meant was that just because others do something wrong does not mean that you have to do something wrong, which is demean every Liberal for the acts of a few. Maybe I'm over-reacting to several negative statements made recently by others, not you, that have implied that because I lean Liberal I am therefore a Socialist and heading toward Communism.

As I said, I hate stereotypes of any group, whether they are Liberal or Conservative.

[QUOTE=Austin Ellen;1060842076]Oh Speedracer, I do not have the answers. That's why I vote for people who I think can come up with solutions.
And yes --- there will never be a program 100 Percent perfect. Nothing ever is. You have to vote for the person that you think will do the job.


Fair enough.

This is just sad to use this girls death in politics!!!

No meme for Shannon Watts and her children?

Miss Ellen, I love you you know that (in a strictly platonic way). If you want to discuss immigration issues with me then please start another thread that is solely about immigration. This thread is tasteless and you are a better person than this.

I admit I let myself fall into the trap, but it ends here as far I am concerned. My whole point in this thread is that a beautiful, smart, young woman who had her whole life ahead of her was murdered in cold blood, and this should not be turned into a political debate from either side. And I really do hope they put that worthless piece of shit in a cell with the biggest & baddest MF in whatever prison he ends up in and gets the shit beat out of him and ass raped repeatedly.

This will be my final post in this thread, and all I have to say about this matter.

R.I.P Mollie Tibbetts

I really do hope you are with your god right now. Originally Posted by Little Monster

Bravo love, well said.

Amen.

I hate the politicizing of events when death is involved. If this is the rallying cry for Conseratives in November then let me first and foremost say this is a bad idea.

1. The accused (till he pleads guilty or is found as such by a jury) according to his attorney is documented and came in legally however the farm workers admit they did not use E-verify https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.des...amp/1072889002 so there is some problems right there in itself.

2. There was a man here earlier that killed his wife and children and he was white. You don't hear people saying ban white males out of this country.

3. There are plenty of women especially those that are minorities, sex workers, LBGTQI and etc that are missing and yet do not get the same type of coverage that Molly has.

4. We as a country are simply not doing enough even with #metoo and other movements that go towards protecting women from men especially those in power.

To be Frank, I don't want to hear the bs from Conseratives because your leader is a guy that advocates "grabbing them by the pussy."

I think we should find the wall not judge with drug dealer forfeitures, but foreitures of businesses who hire illegals. Originally Posted by Humpty Dumpty

I like the idea however a wall isn't the answer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...d-kfc-arizona/

Expired visas for everyone's info is the number one way most people violate immigration law.