Should Gov Cuomo Be Held Criminally Liable For Nursing Home Decision?

HedonistForever's Avatar
I've seen no evidence (facts) that prove his decision killed anyone! I have seen a lot of speculation as to the cause of death.

That's true of the statistics on "Covid 19" deaths, as well. Originally Posted by LexusLover

I don't think there is much speculation that if you introduce a positive virus patient back into a nursing home, patients will die from this virus. I think statistical analysis could prove this ( positive person comes in, deaths spike ) in a court of law but the question is, can a Governor be sued for making a decision in his official capacity as Governor? I don't know the answer to that and I can't find it through a Google search but I have no doubt at all that wrongful death suits will be filed against the Governor and if a Governor can be sued for decisions he made as Governor, I don't see how the plaintiff doesn't prevail. IMHO direct causation is evident if I was sitting on a jury and even if their can't be a criminal trial, a civil case might fair better.



You seem to be questioning whether this virus is capable of killing people. Sure, the evidence suggests that people with underlying medical conditions are more susceptible to death but there are enough otherwise healthy people who contracted COVID-19 to correctly call it death by COVID-19 in my non medical opinion of course.


Maybe the best evidence against the Governor would be the fact that he abruptly reversed his decision when he saw the deaths spike. Let him try to explain why he reversed his decision if it was anything other than the spike in deaths.


I think the Governor was more concerned with "forcing" nursing homes to be able to handle these patients coming back into the facility but they didn't and I don't think any reasonable should have expected that they could all things considered.
Jacuzzme's Avatar
You can throw that wacko tranny PA health director in the cell with Cuomo. She pulled her own mom out before infecting the nursing home.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/13/pennsy...-nursing-home/
LexusLover's Avatar
I don't think there is much speculation that if you introduce a positive virus patient back into a nursing home, patients will die from this virus. Originally Posted by HedonistForever
Well, statistically you are incorrect, #1. As has been recently demonstrated by expanded testing there are far more people who test positive, but have little or no symptoms than those who do exhibit serious symptoms.

BTW: That's true of many "diseases" or health issues.

FYI: The nursing home can refuse to accept patients.

Speculation of criminal liability based on executive decisions by a politician is entertaining during one's quarantine idleness, but has little constructive value beyond the academic exercise.

Otherwise, one is advocating a dangerous precedence based on political biases. Look at some of the suggestions in the thread regarding the "jogger" shooting!
HedonistForever's Avatar
Well, statistically you are incorrect, #1. As has been recently demonstrated by expanded testing there are far more people who test positive, but have little or no symptoms than those who do exhibit serious symptoms.

BTW: That's true of many "diseases" or health issues.

FYI: The nursing home can refuse to accept patients.


I think that is the point, they couldn't because the Governor made an Executive Order that no nursing home may refuse a positive patient once released from the hospital. They had to accept these patients.


Speculation of criminal liability based on executive decisions by a politician is entertaining during one's quarantine idleness, but has little constructive value beyond the academic exercise.


I completely disagree. Holding politicians accountable whether criminal or civilly, is very constructive to our democracy. It tells us that nobody is above the law unless of course it is written in the State Constitution that a Governor may not be held accountable for the decisions he or she makes. I don't know if that is true in the State of New York and I think it is a question worth an answer even from a concerned citizen idle under quarantine.


Speaking of that, the Wisconsin Supreme Court has said that the Governor over stepped his authority by issuing a stay at home order. Only the Legislature can issue such an order which I believe should be the case in all 50 states. Imagine if that order is given to every Governor.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/polit...der/index.html


Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down state's stay-at-home order



The Wisconsin Supreme Court has overturned the state's stay-at-home order, ruling it "unlawful" and "unenforceable" in a high-profile win for the state's Republican-led Legislature.

In a 4-3 decision Wednesday, the court ruled that Democratic Gov. Tony Evers' administration overstepped its authority when the state Department of Health Services extended the order to May 26.
The ruling comes after the Legislature's Republican leaders filed a lawsuit last month arguing the order would cost Wisconsin residents their jobs and hurt many companies, asserting that if it was left in place, "our State will be in shambles."
The suit was filed specifically against state Department of Health Services Secretary-designee Andrea Palm and other health officials, who made the decision in mid-April to extend the state's "Safer at Home" emergency order. At the same time as the extension, the state loosened some restrictions on certain businesses, including golf courses, public libraries, and arts and crafts stores.
But the justices wrote in their decision Wednesday that "an agency cannot confer on itself the power to dictate the lives of law-abiding individuals as comprehensively as the order does without reaching beyond the executive branch's authority."
Otherwise, one is advocating a dangerous precedence based on political biases. Look at some of the suggestions in the thread regarding the "jogger" shooting! Originally Posted by LexusLover

A dangerous precedent to ask what powers a Governor has or doesn't have? Did the Supreme Court of Wisconsin worry that their decision might set a dangerous precedent or did it rule according to what they saw as the law?
HedonistForever's Avatar
You can throw that wacko tranny PA health director in the cell with Cuomo. She pulled her own mom out before infecting the nursing home.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/13/pennsy...-nursing-home/ Originally Posted by Jacuzzme




I will reserve comment.


Oh what the Hell. "You can dressem up like a woman but sometimes you just can't make them look like one".
winn dixie's Avatar
I cant unsee that ^^^^ Dammit