FIBTAB doing Gods work in Kenosha

1. He was 17. It was illegal for him to posses that rifle. In his home state you have to be 21, in wisconsin you have to be 18.


This was crime 1.


2. Crossing the state line with an illegally possessed weapon is a pretty big deal and a big fat number 2 on the crime list.


3. Wisconsin totally allows for the use of deadly force in self defense, but the caveat is that you cant be committing a crime while that use of force happens. Which we addressed above he was actively committing a crime by possessing that rifle.

4. Wisconsin has a Castle Doctrine. But you can only use deadly force if the perpetrators are in your dwelling or your place of business. For a place of business you have to own this, or be in charge of operations of the business. You can not just post up to protect a random business, also you can not chase people if they decide to retreat like This 17yo did.



Wisconsin V. Charles L Chew is the case law. If you want to have a look.


5. Its not self defense when you get in your car with a rifle, drive 15mi to another town, and walk the streets with a rifle. He had every option to stay home but he chose to get involved in this situation with the plan to be involved in confrontation(hence the rifle) also in Wisconsin self defense law you cant be the instigator and then claim self defense. He became the instigator the second he pursued. And yes-- he did actively pursue at one point.
Originally Posted by Grace Preston

He will walk on the serious charges. No jury will convict

Correct. From what I understand.. they've already added the charge of negligent homicide. They have a shot on that one.

I will never understand the glee some people claim to experience when they witness the deaths of others.

I had a 15 minute chat about this subject today, with a lady who called and asked for my vote in November.. she is with the Trump campaign. she tried telling me that this violence is happening in Democrat cities. I told her it is, but these Goons were not acting on this level until Trump got in, and Protesters began marching on behalf of blacks gunned down by police. this was after she insisted Trump would be the "law and order" President.

I told her the violence is instigated by Goons from all stripes (almost entirely White, even as the premise for "attendance", is either marching in step with Protesters, or in the case of this 17 year old wanna-be Cop/Hero, "defending" property). she told me BLM is a "bad group", I told her the small group that basically stole the name and idea may be bad, but despite what Trump wants to portray.. that is, encroaching violence in every major city, from anti-law Protesters, the real Protesters are peaceful, and the city destruction is basically Portland, Seattle, Chicago, and now Kenosha. and the destruction has been limited to 1-3 blocks.. don't give me that shit about they have taken over the cities.

the Trump lady didn't argue my points, we concluded in agreement that it is instigating, criminal GOONS that are attempting to promote their bullshit.. and yes, the Mayors need to figure out how to stop it, although it is difficult when these Fuckers cruise in from other States, and deliberately blend in with Marchers. New York, L.A., and D.C. experienced a lot of that after George Floyd's murder, and subsequent protests.

that 17 year old Punk is as bad as those he killed. he was looking for trouble, fancied himself a Cop already.. dumb shit.

Chung, the literal creators of the BLM movement has pushed for open socialism policies.

Also, you’re neglecting that riots and crap started in 15/16, when Obama was in office.

And they took over 1 to 3 blocks as opposed to a city... is that supposed to make the community feel better? Fucking hell, Chung.

By the way, if you’re going to separate the peaceful protestors from the rioters, are you going to separate the food from the bad during the Charlottesville incident? Or are you to keep kissing Democrats ass?

The 17 year old was acting in self defense, Chung. Maybe you should watch the clip before opening your mouth and speaking your typical ignorant bullshit.

You shithouse lawyers can copy stuff off the internet all day long. They will never get a conviction. Believe what you like. You probably still think this is about black people getting killed by cops for doing stupid shit

apologists and enabler/fomentors of the terrorists and their riots - including the seizure of Capitol Hill in Seattle - make it clear the racist, Marxist DPST's care nothing for the Constitution and Rule of law.

It is about damn time the terrorists were treated as terrorists - and when they attack people - they should be shot.



Racist, Marxist DPST party enables, foments, and approves of their terrorists - they are imported to areas where incidents occur to enable the LSM to stir up fake propaganda and stir up violence.

Note - not one damn word from the DNC convention regarding condemnation of their precious terrorists and their violence.

Then biden tries to lay it at Trump's responsibility - while the Racist, marxist DPST mayor snad governors refuse Federal help offered them - and continue to enable the terrorists until their own homes are threatened - ala mayor jenny of Seattle and lightfoot in Chicago.



CT - i disagree completely - as you already figured out.

Racist , marxist DPST are promoting, enabling, and fomenting terrorists in America!
Vote Biden - K harris will oust him pronto and will institute a racist marxist DPST reign of terror and violence that will precipitate a Civil War.

harris is a committed marxist - and fomenting violence helps her plans for a marxist revolution and takeover in America.



Civil War is coming!

Chung, the literal creators of the BLM movement has pushed for open socialism policies.

Also, you’re neglecting that riots and crap started in 15/16, when Obama was in office.

And they took over 1 to 3 blocks as opposed to a city... is that supposed to make the community feel better? Fucking hell, Chung.

By the way, if you’re going to separate the peaceful protestors from the rioters, are you going to separate the food from the bad during the Charlottesville incident? Or are you to keep kissing Democrats ass?

The 17 year old was acting in self defense, Chung. Maybe you should watch the clip before opening your mouth and speaking your typical ignorant bullshit. Originally Posted by Aoi

You will parse words and argue with every God Damn thing I post. Even when I agree with 90% of what you believe. No shit about those few BLM members advocating socialism. They are a handful of people, that movement is a loose coalition of many. I am not going to discount peaceful marches for justice, just because a few ''Leaders'' have advocated Socialist policies. How did I ''neglect'' the Obama riots? I said there are more since Trump took office.
Yeah, 1-3 blocks in 4 cities. That is truth, Trump's people try to say all US cities are in jeapardy of being taken over. That is fear- mongering bullshit to try and win votes. WTF does Charlottesville have to do with my posts? I agree there was some good people there, but you will refuse to accept that, you would rather decide in advance that I'm a flaming liberal. You are simply trolling me now. You decided to ignore where I posted that the 17 year old DID act in self- defense, and I am GLAD those folks were shot.

They are a handful of people, that movement is a loose coalition of many. I am not going to discount peaceful marches for justice, just because a few ''Leaders'' have advocated Socialist policies. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Lenin had a term for folks like you that believe as you do. He called them "useful idiots."

They were the fools in the middle that think social justice is a real thing. It's not. Justice is one of those words when you ad something in front of it, it gets negated. Any social justice is based on group characteristics. In order to be just to one set of characteristics means that one must be unjust to another set. liberals/commies/socialists turn everything into a zero sum game of redistribution.

If you're OKAY with that... enjoy. When the bullets start flying... remember that you could have actually helped oppose whats coming.

that 17 year old Punk is as bad as those he killed. he was looking for trouble, fancied himself a Cop already.. dumb shit. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Looking for trouble? BUT THESE ARE PEACEFUL PROTESTS RIGHT?!!!

If they're not then the attempted assault on him regardless of where he was or why he was there is still an assault. He was chased, stuff was thrown at him, shots were fired, people were yelling get him, he was hit with a skateboard and one guy had the handgun out and has stated he regrets not killing the kid!!!

The kid will walk because they will NEVER get a jury to convict... all they have to do is show the video. The first video is key. you can see at least two gunshots from the chasing crowd as the converge on him before the kid turns and shoots the first pedo-fa nazi. four shots... hit hit a hand, groin, arm, and grazed the guys head who was practically on top of him. He then stops, makes a call, and when the crowd closes starts running again. I'll bet a years salary that call he made was 911.

The NaziDem sympathizers may charge him through the ass... they will NEVER get a conviction. Every white home owner in Kenosha County will be on his side.

Please you guys couldn't hit water if you fell out of a boat if you think this kid is a "punk". His social media has posts supporting the police...

if this were my kid, I'd be proud as fuck of they way he comported himself.

You will parse words and argue with every God Damn thing I post.
Even when I agree with 90% of what you believe. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

That's because almost everything you believe on this subject is bullshit, Chung. Maybe if you weren't so fucking ignorant? Also, we agree on a very few things. No lockdowns, being the biggest thing.

No shit about those few BLM members advocating socialism. They are a handful of people, that movement is a loose coalition of many.

Uh, no. BLM is a monolithic organization, dude. It isn't a "few members" advocating for socialism. It's the creators of it. You're downplaying this because, again, you're ignorant. Stop with the No True Scotsman fallacy.

I am not going to discount peaceful marches for justice, just because a few ''Leaders'' have advocated Socialist policies.

Where were the peaceful marches for blacks getting killed by blacks? How about black police officers who are slain? I don't see BLM marching for black babies being protested. And where are the pro-peace BLM supporters? And it isn't leaders in quotes. It's the founding members of the actual organization.

How did I ''neglect'' the Obama riots? I said there are more since Trump took office.

Except there weren't more. 15/16 was way worse. I mean, literal officers were gunned down in Dallas. I'm telling that this isn't Trump's fault. It's stupid moron's fault. What happens in local cities isn't Trump's call.

Yeah, 1-3 blocks in 4 cities.

Oh yeah. That makes me feel much better.

That is truth, Trump's people try to say all US cities are in jeapardy of being taken over.

It's hyperbole, dude. Are you really going to say politicians don't play this game around election time?

That is fear- mongering bullshit to try and win votes.

Right... because politicians never pander to win votes, right? It would help if Democrats actually condemned this type of crap during their DNC convention. But they didn't. Not Kamala and certainly not Biden. Do you know ANYTHING about politics, Chung? Like, seriously? Honest question.

WTF does Charlottesville have to do with my posts?

I agree there was some good people there, but you will refuse to accept that, you would rather decide in advance that I'm a flaming liberal.

I simply asked you a question. Since you're so quick to defend "BLM" I was asking if are you going to side with Trump when he initially said that there were peaceful people in C-ville, which he got tarred for at the time.

And yes, you are a flaming liberal, Chung. I don't give a shit if you said you voted for Romney or Trump. Almost every criticism you have of Trump panders to the lowest common denominator that anyone who steps outside of their CNN echochamber can figure out. So, I'm giving you a shoe that fits. If you don't want that, maybe you should grow up.

You are simply trolling me now. You decided to ignore where I posted that the 17 year old DID act in self- defense, and I am GLAD those folks were shot.

You also said the boy was as bad as those he killed. Well, turns out, of the people he killed, one of them was a pedophile and the remaining were a group of rioters and ARMED at that.

So, how exactly is shooting people in self defense as bad as any of said things? It's no secret that you're a snowflake with regards to people advocating their 2A position.

I think more people should march the streets with their rifles to counter these fucking privileged white liberals.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/escala...-united-states

https://www.businessinsider.com/righ...ed-none-2020-7

Why don't you and Texassapper get in the streets, and put down these Goons?

Instead you spout your support for others, posting on a Website that has had to fight to stay online, after the Trumpists tried to legislate them away. Brave Motherfuckers you are.

CT - advocating violence -"Why don't you and Texassapper get in the streets, and put down these Goons?" -is not cogent or constructive debate about the issues. You appear to be joining the DPST enabled and fomented rioters in their quest for total destruction of representative democracy and the Constitutional Rule of Law and Order.



When 'special groups' - it OBLM, Antifa are given special Rights over and above the general population - the groups will take up arms to subjugate to their own viewpoint (Marxism) - the population they are paid by the DPST's and DNC to attack.

"reparations" is racial plantation pandering to the long term subjugation of black peoples by the Democrats in their shit hole cities - who use welfare to keep black peoples in their places- ie - serving their DPST and DNC political masters.

Kim Klacik is correct!

This thread proves there is no place for nuance in today’s political discussions.