VA was the closest thing to socialism before trumps reforms.
with regard to democratic socialist of Europe, they're mostly socialist, but they are not true socialist as they have a market economy that greases the wheels of socialism. take free market out of the equation, socialism fails. it fails because it doesn't have a benchmark to work from.
look at the failed socialist states.
North Korea
Cuba
Vietnam (before 1982)
China (before 1992)
USSR (NRIP)
Venezuela
I believe Mexico dabbled in it before they ditched after the socialist president died.
Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
Without the black market, capitalism will always disappoint.