Wow, who are these people

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When a pole comes from a company like Rasmussen, I rarely stop to give it much credence. One of their questions might as well have been, while visiting the pizza parlor of pedophilia and eating babies, which is your favorite flavor of ice cream chocolate or vanilla? It's these kind of nonsense questions that make me really wonder who the fuck thinks these stupid things up? Originally Posted by eyecu2
Or instead of making up false questions, you could, you know look at the actual questions asked. I provided a direct link to the poll. And if that was not enough, Gristle actually posted the questions in this thread

So the only nonsense is what you wrote. The actual questions are all straightforward and quite legit
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When a pole comes from a company like Rasmussen, I rarely stop to give it much credence.
That’s an odd thing to say, considering Rasmussen has been consistently the most accurate polling group.
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That’s an odd thing to say, considering Rasmussen has been consistently the most accurate polling group. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
If they don't get it directly from the DNC or their DNC media mouthpieces at CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, etc - most libs don't believe it. They like to live in a state of denial
eyecu2's Avatar
That’s an odd thing to say, considering Rasmussen has been consistently the most accurate polling group. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
That's fucking bullshit. They are known to be a conservative polling group and the questions they pose are total horseshit many times. The fact that you think they're the most consistent says more about you, versus thier accuracy. As a matter of fact they only gained notoriety when they started placing Trump in a favorable light. Are you all so brainwashed that you only can see conservative ideas, polling, or the support for a right-wing agenda as the only thing that's worth while? Rasmussen was consistently always slanted towards a conservative outcome. Reality is proven that the results are not indicative of a Rasmussen survey.
... WHERE?! ... Show us! ... Rasmussen is the best.
Surely used to be Gallup.

Truth is the truth, mate.

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berryberry's Avatar
That's fucking bullshit. They are known to be a conservative polling group and the questions they pose are total horseshit many times. Originally Posted by eyecu2
And yet the questions they asked could easily be found on the link I posted or in Gristle's followup post.

But you choose to ignore them actual questions so you can make something up in your head to try and discredit the results because they reflect poorly on you and your fellow libs
eyecu2's Avatar
And yet the questions they asked could easily be found on the link I posted or in Gristle's followup post.

But you choose to ignore them actual questions so you can make something up in your head to try and discredit the results because they reflect poorly on you and your fellow libs Originally Posted by berryberry
The questions are not what I am debating. Are you that daft that you don't understand, that I am making fun of the questions they asked?? When I see a pole that includes the question about internment camps for political opponents, I know it's a bunch of horseshit, and you should too. As far as poles go, Rasmussen is rated a B, and so is Gallup. Gallup used to be better but obvious political bias has crept in their polls also.
538 is a much better polling organization, as are many others, that ask questions that are not so asinine is to include absurdities like internment camps, or as I nuanced eating ice cream at a pizza shop after eating babies. You people really need to get your heads out of your ass from the literal script, and realize that what people write here are merely opinions. Especially Berry who enjoys posting at nausea, absurdities he finds on the interweb from his right wing news sources. Am I going to make fun of that? Fuck yeah I am. And for those of you who follow in Berry steps, I'll make fun of you too. It's ridiculous to think they're not two sides to every coin, and then when you sit and feverously defend every stupid comment especially including internment camps, and other delusional outcomes, I'm going to point it out. I don't respond to every thing here from you sandbox boys, but when they become absurd, and I'm not working, (unlike you guys who post rightwing political inveracities everyday), I'm going to pipe up and call out what I see is being asininely absurd.

Generally I might add that poles, are not very reflective of outcomes as seen in the past few elections so it's merely fodder for these political slants that pop up here from all you basement-posting tin-foil hat fans. Sandy MAGA babies.
berryberry's Avatar
The questions are not what I am debating. Are you that daft that you don't understand, that I am making fun of the questions they asked?? When I see a pole that includes the question about internment camps for political opponents, I know it's a bunch of horseshit, and you should too. Originally Posted by eyecu2
And yet the group of Democrat voters answered the poll questions and we all see the results. So no, as much as you would like to think it is "horseshit" because it makes libs look bad, the results are real and speak for themselves
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The questions are not what I am debating. Are you that daft that you don't understand, that I am making fun of the questions they asked?? When I see a pole that includes the question about internment camps for political opponents, I know it's a bunch of horseshit, and you should too. As far as poles go, Rasmussen is rated a B, and so is Gallup. Gallup used to be better but obvious political bias has crept in their polls also.
538 is a much better polling organization, as are many others, that ask questions that are not so asinine is to include absurdities like internment camps, or as I nuanced eating ice cream at a pizza shop after eating babies. You people really need to get your heads out of your ass from the literal script, and realize that what people write here are merely opinions. Especially Berry who enjoys posting at nausea, absurdities he finds on the interweb from his right wing news sources. Am I going to make fun of that? Fuck yeah I am. And for those of you who follow in Berry steps, I'll make fun of you too. It's ridiculous to think they're not two sides to every coin, and then when you sit and feverously defend every stupid comment especially including internment camps, and other delusional outcomes, I'm going to point it out. I don't respond to every thing here from you sandbox boys, but when they become absurd, and I'm not working, (unlike you guys who post rightwing political inveracities everyday), I'm going to pipe up and call out what I see is being asininely absurd.

Generally I might add that poles, are not very reflective of outcomes as seen in the past few elections so it's merely fodder for these political slants that pop up here from all you basement-posting tin-foil hat fans. Sandy MAGA babies.
Originally Posted by eyecu2
I dont need to look at polls. I look at these

1. 2 million illegals have entered our country and will be on the government tilt
2. 13 dead warriors dead because of bidens fuck up leaving afgan
3 inflation higher than it's been in decades
4. More people on the government tilt too lazy to go to work and crying its covid
5 a president who is senile and only cares about making his family richer
6 tech co.panies who are totally bias
7 the only saving grace is the country will probably make the right decision this year and throw the progressives out on their asses before this country dies
eyecu2's Avatar
And yet the group of Democrat voters answered the poll questions and we all see the results. So no, as much as you would like to think it is "horseshit" because it makes libs look bad, the results are real and speak for themselves Originally Posted by berryberry
First- I'd have to believe that Rasmussen is a valid polling company. I don't

Second- I'd have to think they had no bias in asking "supposed voters" what they thought after confirming that they were Dems'. I don't.

Third- I'd have to believe that those Dems asked actually responded to a question about a. losing parental rights, b. internments, c. being sectioned out from society. I don't.

The absurdity of asking people anything like that is just ridiculous. Do you think Republicans would answer the questions about ice cream and pizza pedophiles, and baby eaters? I think 10% of the population is mentally damaged and find those questions completely within a realm of reason, but the rest of the 90% think that it's totally designed to infuriate the right wingers .....and guess what ----you are, and it did. The fact you believe that ruse is on you bub. Not me.
berryberry's Avatar
First- I'd have to believe that Rasmussen is a valid polling company. I don't

Second- I'd have to think they had no bias in asking "supposed voters" what they thought after confirming that they were Dems'. I don't.

Third- I'd have to believe that those Dems asked actually responded to a question about a. losing parental rights, b. internments, c. being sectioned out from society. I don't.

The absurdity of asking people anything like that is just ridiculous. Do you think Republicans would answer the questions about ice cream and pizza pedophiles, and baby eaters? I think 10% of the population is mentally damaged and find those questions completely within a realm of reason, but the rest of the 90% think that it's totally designed to infuriate the right wingers .....and guess what ----you are, and it did. The fact you believe that ruse is on you bub. Not me. Originally Posted by eyecu2
Not a ruse, facts. The fact that you don't believe anything unless it is spoon fed to you by the DNC or their mainstream media mouthpieces is on you, not me or anyone else.
eyecu2's Avatar
I dont need to look at polls. I look at these

1. 2 million illegals have entered our country and will be on the government tilt
2. 13 dead warriors dead because of bidens fuck up leaving afgan
3 inflation higher than it's been in decades
4. More people on the government tilt too lazy to go to work and crying its covid
5 a president who is senile and only cares about making his family richer
6 tech co.panies who are totally bias
7 the only saving grace is the country will probably make the right decision this year and throw the progressives out on their asses before this country dies Originally Posted by chizzy
what part of your reply is about polls Chizzy? I thought this post was about that. Perhaps start another post if you want to talk about those things? Just a suggestion.
eyecu2's Avatar
How do you know if a survey is biased?
A survey question is biased if it is phrased or formatted in a way that skews people towards a certain answer. Survey question bias also occurs if your questions are hard to understand, making it difficult for customers to answer honestly.

Here's a few links for you guys who need to see it on the interweb to believe it.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

You can see which way polling companies are known to slant or bias questions etc. from this collective.

Here's an opinion on Gallup:

Are Gallup polls accurate?
Poll analyst Nate Silver found that Gallup's results were the least accurate of the 23 major polling firms Silver analyzed, having the highest incorrect average of being 7.2 points away from the final result.


Further - an article on both Rasmussen and Gallup:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ean-republican


So when I see posts referencing companies with known bias, or inaccurate results prior, I tend to believe the latest results will be also. Past performance is indicative of future performance-all other things aside.

And none of that was "spoon fed to me" - I looked at all those things when I saw the absurd questions being asked.

I'm pretty sure if you have a point of view- you can find some sort of poll to cite that will support your view- regardless of real facts or bias. The contempt some of you have for people who don't follow your right-winged views says more about your intolerance for others, greed, or a lack of understanding just how politics and economics work. I accept that you all may view things differently than I do, or have a lack of tolerance for others, but I am also the guy who will respect your place to be able to have that thought, and speak about it, while we may disagree.

berryberry's Avatar
LOL - you have to be pretty partisan and close minded to think these questions are absurd or biased or phrased in such a way to skew the answers. Please point out how these questions are biased

Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable or very unfavorable impression of Dr. Anthony Fauci?


Do you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose President Biden’s plan to impose a COVID-19 vaccine mandate on the employees of large companies and government agencies?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal to limit the spread of the coronavirus by having federal or state governments require that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal to limit the spread of the coronavirus by having federal or state governments require that citizens temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to require unvaccinated citizens to use a smart phone app or wearable device that tracks unvaccinated people to ensure that they are quarantined or socially distancing from others?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal to temporarily remove parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine?
eyecu2's Avatar
Clearly you Don't understand what a leading question is Berry. But that's ok, it's likely not in your wheelhouse to know something that wasn't on Fox news. Facts are based on prior known experiences or observations, not opinions, not by hypotheticals, nor posed by what would you do for a Klondike bar type of questions. By setting up a question that is of a nature that it would impugn a response towards skewed answers or agreement with the subject regardless of it's nature or conclusion is what is suspect here.

I would also say that not knowing the parameters of what was happening politically when the poll was taken, might also skew an outcome. But you keep on trying- When questions are posed as being legitimate but include conclusions about the ALREADY mentioned words like internment, separation of children, custody, Marshall law (required staying home), or the like.- I'm predicting that the outcomes already have bias injected in them.

It's not that hard of a concept to grasp, yet you seem to have shown a "high prevalence" on not getting it or understanding how bias works. Social Bias is taught in most post secondary schools. Was that missing in your background?